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[Spirit]

Ending Credits

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Player Actions Report

Spoiler: Day One

Politician - Farfalla > Force MonkeyD-Dragon to vote Demonspeed >> Success

Spoiler: Night One

Priority 1

Barkeeper - Kato756 > Invite TSPanda, Farfalla, Brandish > Brandish is redirected to Erinyes

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block SonOfDaws >> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block GrySun >> Success


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate Farfalla >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate TSPanda >> Guilty
Paranoid Det - Qixus > Investigate GrySun > Guilty

Sane Doctor - SonOfDaws > Protect Farfalla > Blocked
Bodyguard - GrySun > Protect TSPanda >> Blocked


Priority 3

Recruiting Mason - gnut > Recruit Farfalla >> Success

Insane Doctor (killing) - Organizized > Kill TSPanda >> Coin flip failed >>> Dies before he can kill
Mafia Janitor - Lambu > Kill Organizized >> Organizized dies

Spoiler: Day Two

Mafia Gambler - Brandish > Force desin24 to vote Purity of Magi >> Coin flip failed >>> desin24 can't be killed by the mafia on Night Two

Spoiler: Night Two

Priority 1

Barkeeper - Kato756 > Invite TSPanda , Farfalla, Arjuna >> Farfalla reveals her role

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Farfalla >> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block Zasz >> Success


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate GrySun >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate GrySun >> Guilty
Paranoid Det - Qixus > Investigate SonOfDaws >> Guilty

Sane Doctor - SonOfDaws > Save TSPanda >> Success
Bodyguard - GrySun > Protect TSPanda >> Success


Priority 3

Mafia Pirate - Arjuna > Steal from GrySun >> Success

Recruiting Mason - gnut > Recruit TSPanda >> gnut dies

Mafia Janitor - Lambu > Kill SonOfDaws > SonOfDaws dies


Extra:

TSPanda passes the Non-Voter Disease to Erinyes

Spoiler: Night Three

Priority 1

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Lambu >> Coin flip won >>> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block MonkeyD-Dragon >> Fails


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate TSPanda >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate Arjuna >> Innocent
Naive Det - Qixus > Investigate Arjuna >> Innocent

Bodyguard - Arjuna > Protect Purity of Magi >> Success


Priority 3

Mafia Janitor - Lambu > Kill Monkey D-Dragon >> Blocked


Extra:

Erinyes passes the Non-Voter Disease to Lambu

Spoiler: Night Four

Priority 1

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Lambu >> Success


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate MonkeyD-Dragon >> Innocent
Insane Det - Purity of Magi > Investigate Lambu >> Innocent
Naive Det - Qixus > Investigate Farfalla >> Innocent


Priority 3

Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Kill Farfalla >> Farfalla dies


Extra:

Lambu passes the Non-Voter Disease to TSPanda

Spoiler: Day Five

Traitor - Holt > Duel Purity of Magi >> Coin flip won >>> Purity of Magi dies

Spoiler: Night Five

Priority 1

Prostitute - MonkeyD-Dragon > Block Holt >> Success
Mafia Escort - goodboy_lawlett > Block Holt >> Recruited


Priority 2

Sane Det - Erinyes > Investigate desin24 >> Innocent

Santa Claus (temporary) - desin24 > Protect MonkeyD-Dragon >> Success


Priority 3

Mafia Boss - TSPanda >> GrySun >>> GrySun dies


Extra:

MonkeyD-Dragon protects himself with his Bulletproof Protection

TSPanda passes the Non-Voter Disease to Zasz

Player Roles

1. @goodboy_lawlett - Tsukiyama Mafia Escort
2. @Purity of Magi - Kanou Insane Detective
3. @SonOfDaws - Arima Sane Doctor
4. @Mazino - Yamori Restless Spirit
5. @Organizized - Owl Insane Doctor
6. @Brandish - Kaneki Mafia Gambler
7. @Kato756 - Ayato Bar Keeper
8. @Farfalla - Eto Politician > Mason >> Miller >>> Martyr
9. @Demonspeed - Touka Death Miller
10. @desin24 - Hinami Witch
11. @Lambu - Amon Mafia Janitor
12. @MonkeyD-Dragon - Nishiki Prostitute
13. @gnut - Furuta Recruiting Mason
14. @Zasz - Rize Bomb
15. @Holt - Yomo Traitor > Mafia Member
16. @TSPanda - Mutsuki Mafia Boss
17. @Erinyes - Akira Sane Detective
18. @Qixus - Saiko Paranoid Detective > Naive Detective
19. @Arjuna - Tatara Mafia Pirate > Bodyguard
20. @GrySun - Shirazu Bodyguard > Regular Townie >> Martyr

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Tarot Card Triggers

Spoiler

1. Sane Detective

The Tower​

- 3+ dead players have their role hidden by the Janitor: gets a single use of the Investigator's ability.
- 3+ townies are lynched: won't be able to vote on the next day.

2. Insane Detective

The Sun​

- A player he investigates is killed on the same night: immediately gets to know the actions that were used on that player like a Mortician.
- 3+ townies are lynched: needs to win a coin flip every time he tries to investigate someone or his target will be randomized.

3. Paranoid Detective

The Wheel of Fortune​

- The Sane Detective and the Insane Detective are both dead: turns into a Sane Detective, with a retroactive effect on his previous investigations.
- A player he investigates is killed on the same night: unknowingly turns into a Naive Detective.

4. Sane Doctor

The Moon​

- Successfully saves a townie from death: his protection won't work on mafia members anymore.
- Successfully saves a mafia member from death: won't be able to save anyone else until that same mafia member is dead.

5. Insane Doctor

The Chariot​

- Kills a townie: 50% fail chance to protect or kill someone at night (turns into "Unskilled" Insane Doc).
- Kills a mafia: loses the ability to protect and can only kill at night (turns into a "Townie" Serial Killer).

6. Bodyguard

The Stars​

- 3+ townie targets: he will be confirmed as a townie on the second next Day Phase (like an Innocent Child).
- 2+ mafia targets: unknowingly turns into a Hider.

7. Prostitute

Justice​

- 1+ mafia action blocked: gets a temporary Bulletproof protection to use on herself for one night.
- 3+ townie townie actions blocked: she gets automatically redirected to a random target whenever she tries to block a player.

8. Barkeeper

The Magician​

- Every time a drunk mafia reveals his role: also reveals the activation conditions and effects of that player's Tarot abilities.
- Every time a drunk townie's ability which would have produced a meaningful result gets blocked or redirected to a useless or harmful target: he won't be able to use his ability on the next night.

9. Politician

The Emperor​

- 3+ force someone to vote for a mafia member: becomes a Prosecutor.
- 3+ force someone to vote for a townie: 50% fail chance to corrupt a vote (like a Mafia Gambler).

10. Bomb

The Lovers​

- Still alive at the start of Day 5: will blow up the next mafia who targets him with any night action (that isn't a defusing).
- 2+ successfully targeted with a night action before the end of Night 4: will blow up the next mafia or townie who targets him with any night action (that isn't a defusing).

11. Witch

The Empress​

- Still alive at the start of Day 5: she will obtain a temporary Santa Claus present she can only give on the next night, containing a single-use Bulletproof protection for the same night (could have just said she gets a single-use Sane Doctor's ability...).
- Less than 50% of the votes that lead to the Witch getting lynched come from mafia members: her ability will take place one night earlier if her target is a townie or one night later if her victim is a mafia member.

12. Restless Spirit

The Devil​

- Killed by a townie or lynched: his ability will count for two votes instead of one.
- Dies and votes for a mafia member who gets lynched on the same day: he will come back to life as a Regular Townie at the start of the next Day Phase.

13. Recruiting Mason

Death​

- 3+ Regular Masons alive at the same time: becomes a Kamikaze Bomb with the timer set to zero.
- 1+ Mason dies: 50% fail chance to recruit another player (turns into "Unskilled" Recruiting Mason).

14. Death Miller

The Hanged Man​

- Investigated by a Detective: 50% chance to kill anyone who targets him with any night action until he kills someone (like an "Unskilled" Paranoid Gun Owner).
- Kill a townie with the unlocked ability: won't be able to vote on the next day.

15. Traitor

The Hierophant​

- Not recruited by the start of Day 4: can duel a player like a Badass Cowboy once with a 50% chance to kill or be killed. The duel is secret and only the dead duelist is revealed. Loses the chance to use the ability is he gets recruited.
- Recruited 3 or less other mafia members alive: gets a single use of the role of one of the dead mafia members. If he chooses the Pirate, he can only choose the role he died with (so either Pirate if he hadn't stolen anything, or the role the Pirate had stolen).


16. Mafia Boss

Temperance​

- Investigated by a Detective: can infect someone with a Non-Voter Disease which will be passed around for the rest of the game, but can only do it on the following night.
- Survived a Day phase with 4+ non-penalty votes on him: the only targets available to be mafia-killed for the following night will be those who voted for him.

17. Mafia Escort

Judgement​

- 3+ townie actions blocked: all her next blocks will also reveal the target of the player she blocks (like a Spy).
- 2+ blocks on townies who didn't use any action: 50% fail chance to block someone again turns into "Unskilled" Mafia Escort).

18. Mafia Janitor

The Hermit​

- 3+ townies killed by the Janitor: gets a single use of a Strongman's ability.
- Gets lynched: also reveals all the targets of his teammates' actions, but neither the actions themselves nor the night or day phase when they were performed.

19. Mafia Gambler

The High Priestess​

- 3+ successful gambles: automatically win the coin flip to use his ability (like a Politician).
- Every time a mafia member is lynched: won't be able to gamble on the next day.

20. Mafia Pirate

Strength​

- Steal a passive role: gets a single use of a Bomb Defuser's ability.
- Remains as the last member of his mafia: gets a single use of an Assassin's ability.


21. Regular Townie

The World​

- 1+ mafia gets lynched after the player became a Regular Townie: gains the role of Martyr.
- 2+ townies get lynched after the player became a Regular Townie: unknowingly becomes a Miller.


0. Regular Mason

The Fool​

- 2+ mafia members get lynched after the player became a Regular Mason: becomes a Martyr.
- Loses an active role by being recruited: unknowingly becomes a Miller.

Thanks to Vandred for Cohosting and contributing largely to the soon to be infamous Tarot Card System.
Thanks to Farfalla for designing our Avatars.
Thanks to everybody for playing the game and making things interesting

MVP: Panda who came up with literal code talk. BAMF.

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[SonOfDaws]

This is all very cute but if you're gonna waste space why not read the lore the hosts wrote and try finding us some hints?

Oh yeah... Forgot about that.

I was about to play some Destiny 2 and Overwatch though.. so

Priorities.

 

[Farfalla]

*Monkey, not Arjuna in that previous post. Won't edit it for the sake of records.

 

[SonOfDaws]

I'll still be looking at thread though, at least for a little while longer.

 

[GrySun]

I need to reread a bit, but the Arjuna train doesn't seem like a particularly good one. What he was saying about his votes is a bit illogical though.

TSPanda's logic behind believing Demon is a DM didn't really make much sense to me either, but I don't have much reason to suspect him otherwise. I'd vote Arjuna before Panda.

Desin's reasoning for his reluctance to kill Demon did make sense though. If the roles really are given randomly, then gambler's fallacy is still a thing. With complete randomization, Demonspeed being mafia is no more likely than any of us being mafia.

Brandish and Qixus: Neither one of them have posted so they just look more suspect, but Brandish was also kinda inactive in our piratepad last game and Qixus doesn't really seem like a threat or an asset...

I do like the idea of killing an inactive though. I want to win, but I'm fine knocking off some boring filler.

Exactly my thoughts. I‘m thinking of voting Qixus, but she could be getting hostkilled at this rate.

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

Are you honestly surprised I'm arguing non-stop over something that someone else has been questioning about?
Thought we've been thru that enough.

Here's to wrap up my thoughts:
Idk about the DM vs Monkey, it's a pack of fragile things that alone are silly but together makes a possible scenario... Even if it's farfetched. Recollecting stuff:
- Demon said he had an unimportant role and didn't try to make it look like we should keep him alive;
- Monkey changed his vote and didn't seem to be bothered about doing so (made a joke about hoping Touka would die some mins after);
- Demon was a M. Member while there's a Janitor.
- So if Arjuna would die as a red mafia with a role different from Janitor, that would be another indication to Demon being a DM;
- If Arjuna would die as a mafia with a differefent color, that's an awesome result and good information (same as third party);
- If he dies as any non-townie party role, I think Erin is with him.

Arjuna, Zasz, Misho, Brandish... any of those would sound like a good alternative to me ahead in the game, depending on how they proceed...

You can try reading my posts with Gry in the page before this one. Maybe then could you understand me.

 

[Farfalla]

You can try reading my posts with Gry in the page before this one. Maybe then could you understand me.

But I don't need to XD Plus of course I have a different view on them, which Gry brought up in a reply to you.

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

But I don't need to XD Plus of course I have a different view on them, which Gry brought up in a reply to you.

Well, you are free to do that, but I am going to tell you that you are on the wrong track. That is all I will say.

 

[Purity of Magi]

At this point Maz and Qixus are getting hostkilled most likely. We can also just use one of them with leljuna as double lynch.

 

[Copy Panda]

Are you honestly surprised I'm arguing non-stop over something that someone else has been questioning about?
Thought we've been thru that enough.

Obviously, I'm not. I was just pointing out that your considerations have been odd scenario's, and I don't think I know you as a player who spends this much time on this many, unlikely hypotheticals.

Here's to wrap up my thoughts:
Idk about the DM vs Monkey, it's a pack of fragile things that alone are silly but together makes a possible scenario... Even if it's farfetched. Recollecting stuff:
- Demon said he had an unimportant role and didn't try to make it look like we should keep him alive;
- Monkey changed his vote and didn't seem to be bothered about doing so (made a joke about hoping Touka would die some mins after);
- Demon was a M. Member while there's a Janitor.
- So if Arjuna would die as a red mafia with a role different from Janitor, that would be another indication to Demon being a DM;
- If Arjuna would die as a mafia with a differefent color, that's an awesome result and good information (same as third party);
- If he dies as any non-townie party role, I think Erin is with him.

You say 'another', but your first line of defence is that a mafia member claimed something that doesn't fit. The problem with all your 'considerations' is the disproportionate amount of trust you seem to have in the words of Demon. It's just that I can't tell what your overall goal is... But it's very odd. Definitely strange that you're this passionate about defending a theory that won't even produce hard evidence Demon is DM (because I don't see how Arjun dying as something not janitor or even as a janitor proves that Demon is a DM). I'm probably missing something here, but you're definitely emanating something and it's not the scent of mango.

Arjuna, Zasz, Misho, Brandish... any of those would sound like a good alternative to me ahead in the game, depending on how they proceed...

Brandish has been afk, so I don't think I can say anything about him, but the other three could very well all be mafia.

Ohohoh I see that someone is triggered~

Yeah, because town has been chasing it's own tail all day long and we got nothing while two TG experts are adding to confusion rather than using their chikara to clear up some of it

I need to reread a bit, but the Arjuna train doesn't seem like a particularly good one. What he was saying about his votes is a bit illogical though.

TSPanda's logic behind believing Demon is a DM didn't really make much sense to me either, but I don't have much reason to suspect him otherwise. I'd vote Arjuna before Panda.

Desin's reasoning for his reluctance to kill Demon did make sense though. If the roles really are given randomly, then gambler's fallacy is still a thing. With complete randomization, Demonspeed being mafia is no more likely than any of us being mafia.

Brandish and Qixus: Neither one of them have posted so they just look more suspect, but Brandish was also kinda inactive in our piratepad last game and Qixus doesn't really seem like a threat or an asset...

I do like the idea of killing an inactive though. I want to win, but I'm fine knocking off some boring filler.

... Yeah, that's the point. I've been arguing against him being a DM

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Oh yeah... Forgot about that.

I was about to play some Destiny 2 and Overwatch though.. so

Priorities.

That was directed towards good_boy and bad_girl, not you

 

[SonOfDaws]

Obviously, I'm not. I was just pointing out that your considerations have been odd scenario's, and I don't think I know you as a player who spends this much time on this many, unlikely hypotheticals.



You say 'another', but your first line of defence is that a mafia member claimed something that doesn't fit. The problem with all your 'considerations' is the disproportionate amount of trust you seem to have in the words of Demon. It's just that I can't tell what your overall goal is... But it's very odd. Definitely strange that you're this passionate about defending a theory that won't even produce hard evidence Demon is DM (because I don't see how Arjun dying as something not janitor or even as a janitor proves that Demon is a DM). I'm probably missing something here, but you're definitely emanating something and it's not the scent of mango.



Brandish has been afk, so I don't think I can say anything about him, but the other three could very well all be mafia.



Yeah, because town has been chasing it's own tail all day long and we got nothing while two TG experts are adding to confusion rather than using their chikara to clear up some of it



... Yeah, that's the point. I've been arguing against him being a DM

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 15, 2017, Original Post Date: Oct 15, 2017 ---

That was directed towards good_boy and bad_girl, not you

Guess I'll just go fuck myself

 

[Farfalla]

Obviously, I'm not. I was just pointing out that your considerations have been odd scenario's, and I don't think I know you as a player who spends this much time on this many, unlikely hypotheticals.

Funny, 'cause I could quote a lot of posts from a previous game of you saying the same.

The problem with all your 'considerations' is the disproportionate amount of trust you seem to have in the words of Demon.

Now you say "trust in Demon"... Won't even ask for your "hard evidences" on it as well. Arguing with you and Gry is useless '-'

You're right about my thoughts not being that worthy of my effort in arguing against you two to EXPLAIN it. You might read it as "insist" or wtv, but that's simply what it is and you two should know better. My theory is fragile anyway.

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 15, 2017, Original Post Date: Oct 15, 2017 ---

Dropping the topic so people have space to discuss other voting courses.

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

Sigh.....
Instead of looking for an actual evidence about the mafia most of the day is gone about discussing whether Demon is a Deathmiller or not (not that it matters right now) and why I voted last second.

Lets try to take a better course, does anyone have ANY new info that might be of use ?

 

[Copy Panda]

Funny, 'cause I could quote a lot of posts from a previous game of you saying the same.

Yes, but in a larger game with more variables I feel like it makes more sense to entertain outlier scenario's.

Now you say trusting Demon... Won't even ask for your "hard evidences" on it as well. Arguing with you and Gry is useless '-'

You're right about my thoughts not being that worthy of my effort in arguing against you two to EXPLAIN it. You might read it as "insist" or wtv, but that's simply what it is and you two should know better. My theory is fragile anyway.

Implicit trust, in that you keep referring to his comment 'passive role' while it could have just been a lazy defence after being mafia this often, or thinking he wouldn't be a target, or whatever else. There's of course no hard evidence, but your reasoning when entertaining considerations does indicate the weight you give to his words. And it's not useless, but there's some kind of discrepancy in our understandings.

Guess I'll just go fuck myself

Yeah, get fucked

 

[GrySun]

For what it's worth, I don't know who's idea Death Miller was, but there's no real evidence of that being the case. As in, all things considered, there's no reason to consider he's Death Miller since nothing hints at that. It's just been distracting for the majority of the day, and we won't ever be able to confirm it either. I just don't see the merit of considering him a Death Miller, especially if it halts our reasoning this much. If he was still alive, we'd probably have a mafia member meddling with our affairs. Memes aside, I won't say that killing Demon was grounded on anything significant, but he died and we got to see the mafia member message. Anyone telling us otherwise has an agenda. There's no merit to 'considering' another team or whatever, there's no grounds for that. Hindsight is 20/20 but it seems like stall to me.

Me and farf were the first to point it out. Death miller can be a big problem in having us make mistakes because our basis of him being a mafia could be wrong. You‘re probably right in us thinking about it so long being detrimental but idk. A lot points towards it. Nobody saving him, him claiming a useless role for town, no tarot effects being activated...

 

[Farfalla]

As if one discussion blocks other users from adding other topics '-'

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

But the effort in this discussion is really too much for it "-"

 

[GrySun]

!votekill Brandish

Inactive and a likely mafia if demon is dm

 

[Brandish μ]

I'll votekill Arjuna for now. I'd rather vote for a suspect (even if Arjuna isn't a strong one) than not.

Inactive and a likely mafia if demon is dm

Yea I'm not the only inactive... What's the probability of demon being death miller??

 

[Purity of Magi]

I will keep my vote on Arjuna. Pretty certain he is mafia, however I wouldn't mind to add Maz or Qixus, since they will mostly get hostkilled anyway.

Randi is the other guy that gave me some iffy vibes also, if I may say. However, for now he is at least here unlike some people...

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 15, 2017, Original Post Date: Oct 15, 2017 ---

Also after this whole convo thing, I'm starting to suspect Gry also. So yeah, just saying. Not that it would matter anyway, but so you know~

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 15, 2017 ---

I wouldn't mind meme killing Zasz also. *shrugs*

 

[MonkeyD-Dragon]

I don't know who to vote for, so I'll just go for Mazino since he is inactive, and I won't be here in the next 20 minutes, so I want to avoid a penalty vote as well.
votekill Mazino