Games Mafia Game 61 - The Lord of the Rings Edition - END GAME

[Lambu]

The Fellowship enjoyed the sunlight after a good day. They got back the One Ring, and then focused in their second higher suspect: Galadriel
They had enough clues so they proceeded with the lynch fast.

Spoiler: Day Lynch

Mafia Strongwoman

Afterwards, Haldir decided to confess his true allegiance, since he could not actually kill anyone anymore (and everyone was already losing their minds with this crazy journey)

Mafia Pirate
(Mafia Jesus)


So with this, all the Nazgul were defeated and the One Ring finally could be destroyed!

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And so:

Finally, The Fellowship of the Townies win the Game!

Spoiler: WINNERS!

Bomb

Hoe

Barkeeper

Spy

Detective

Doctor

Congratulations!!!

Thank you to all the players for participating, from Empi and I


Player List​

• @Farfalla - Faramir >>>> Recruiting Mason (Killed Night 2)
• @GrySun - Boromir >>>> Mentor (Daykilled Day 2)
• @Lady pompom - Pippin >>>> Investigator (Killed Night 2)
• @gnut - Witchking of Angmar >>>> Mafia Boss (Lynched Day 3)
• @Crescent_jinxgrace - Eowyn >>>> Mafia Janitor (Lynched Day 6)
• @BluePegasus - Elrond >>>> Time Bomb (Hostkilled Day 2)
• @Zasz - Grima >>>> Mafia Strongman (Lynched Day 2)
• @MarmaladeSky - Theoden >>>> Spy
• @Vandred - Gollum >>>> Sane Detective >>>> Mentee recruited on Night 1 (Daykilled Day 2)
• @Cat Sidhe26 - Isildur >>>> Insane Detective (Lynched Day 1)
• @Asako - Merry >>>> Barkeeper
• @Gryffindor - Aragorn >>>> Mafia Boss (killed Night 2)
• @Brandish - Legolas >>>> Bulletproof Townie (killed Night 4)
• @Xadyu - Denethor >>>> Prostitute
• @kira - Sauron >>>> DayTime Vigilante (Hostkilled Day 4)
• @Belserion - Galadriel >>>> Mafia Strongman (Lynched Day 7)
• @Juviii - Saruman >>>> Insane Doctor
• @Organizized - Eomer >>>> Mafia Gambler (killed Night 2)
• @shinobi - Sam >>>> Insane Detective
• @Shobu_Yoruichi - Frodo >>>> Sane Doctor (Lynched Day 5)
• @Holt - Bilbo >>>> Jesus >>>> becomes Townie due to role steal (Killed Night 3)
• @Mononoke - Celeborn >>>> Mafia Poisoner (Hostkilled Day 3)
• @goodboy_lawlett - Deagol >>>> Bomb
• @EmptySoul - Arwen >>>> Mafia Escort (Daykilled Day 4)
• @TSPanda - Gimli >>>> Mafia Bomb Defuser (Killed Night 1)
• @Shinyarcanine45 - Haldir >>>> Mafia Jesus (Lynched Day 4) >>>> Mafia Pirate (Lynched Day 7)
• @James Rye - Treebeard >>>> Martyr (Killed Night 5)

 

[Asako]

I'm kinda confused, is Asako claiming BP or hoping there's a BP/Panda might have been one?

I was claiming that hopefully there a barkeeper not that panda is a beekeeper at first I though he was a spy.

But Asako meant she believes Panda was the Barkeeper no?
I won't lie, saying a Barkeeper looks like the closest to a Detective is weird to say the least.

I'm still gonna vote for kira so far, though.


Idk tbh. Didn't know the word, checked there cause couldn't find it in a common dictionary. You guys have a better vocabulary then me so I believe it.

I said that because if the person get drunk he can reveal his role but it all depend on chance.

Another game, another Janitor

I think whatever had to be said about Cat has already been said, but Panda...


Now, to the matter at hand. I was a bit surprised to see @Asako bring up the Barkeeper today since it was precisely what I was thinking about when I mentioned a role that could fit "not sure if active or passive" from a new player's perspective yesterday. So I believe that might actually be her role and we'd be having a case similar to Cat's.

Which, of course, could also mean that either it was her original claim she made up on the spot, or that one of her mafia buddies had my same reasoning and suggested she claimed that...

And what do you mean by made up ?
And who knows maybe it is my role maybe it's not....

 

[Brandish μ]

Any thoughts on my idea of approaching the ring like that? I meant the 1st one who had it yesterday, if he gave it away to come out and say he had it, but not reveal who his target was until next day?
That is ofc only if they passed it away and didn't keep holding onto it though...

There is the non-disclosure agreement for previous ring bearers.

 

[Zasz]

Oh it is a good thing. Just try to make this the "always-Zasz" playstyle instead of once every year and making me wary

Today I'm completely free, that's why.

Oh he was crucial, but still completely afk and zasz-ish ""

Zasz-ish has such a nice ring to it.

 

[Asako]

I m real mystery...

Spoiler

it's a bad habit of mine that I do even in real life lol

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

Votekill zasz

 

[Lambu]

Just so you people know, from 18:30 - 21:30 CET I wont be here, ask Empi any questions.

Though I think the rules explain everything accurately (save some special cases)... please read them.

 

[Farfalla]

There is the non-disclosure agreement for previous ring bearers.

He included that the person would have to tank the penalties.
I said before, sounds fine. It's not like we'd vote for that person. He'd get 6 votes, we gotta make sure we beat that and that's it.

 

[Vandred]

And what do you mean by made up ?
And who knows maybe it is my role maybe it's not....

That it's not your role and you already chose you would claim it yesterday, before you knew that that kind of claim wasn't really a good idea. That's a possibility too, although much less likely than the other two, in my opinion.

Any thoughts on my idea of approaching the ring like that? I meant the 1st one who had it yesterday, if he gave it away to come out and say he had it, but not reveal who his target was until next day?
That is ofc only if they passed it away and didn't keep holding onto it though...

I believe one can never reveal whom they gave the One Ring to, but they can reveal they had the Ring once they don't have it anymore. So if the Day 1 Ring Bearer passed it to someone, he could say they were the original RB but nothing more.

He included that the person would have to tank the penalties.
I said before, sounds fine. It's not like we'd vote for that person. He'd get 6 votes, we gotta make sure we beat that and that's it.

The question is why the hell would we want to do that. Mafia can have a Strongman for all we know.

 

[Farfalla]

The question is why the hell would we want to to do that. Mafia can have a Strongman for all we know.

Why would the mafia kill the previous bearer tho? We wanna have a confirmed townie, we know the uses for that.
Meanwhile mafia is looking for important roles and the ring. The Strongman is a one use thing. Why would they waste it just to get rid of a confirmed townie? Then a detective shows up later, gets one of them down, and they can't kill a protected detective, so the detective is free to roam and find more.
I mean, if they wanna waste a Strongman on our confirmed townie - in case they have a Strongman - then let them be our guests xD Hopefully as Gry said the confirmed townie is a trap as well, lmao (the possibility alone should put the mafia away from the confirmed townie anyway).

 

[Asako]

Votekill zasz

Can you explain why did you chose zasz ?

That it's not your role and you already chose you would claim it yesterday, before you knew that that kind of claim wasn't really a good idea. That's a possibility too, although much less likely than the other two, in my opinion.



I believe one can never reveal whom they gave the One Ring to, but they can reveal they had the Ring once they don't have it anymore. So if the Day 1 Ring Bearer passed it to someone, he could say they were the original RB but nothing more.



The question is why the hell would we want to to do that. Mafia can have a Strongman for all we know.

And there's also a third option that you can't denies is there and that you were right and it's my real role but I will either confirm not denies that.....












for now.

 

[Vandred]

And there's also a third option that you can't denies is there and that you were right and it's my real role but I will either confirm not denies that.....












for now.

But that was the first possibility I mentioned

Why would the mafia kill the previous bearer tho? We wanna have a confirmed townie, we know the uses for that.
Meanwhile mafia is looking for important roles and the ring. The Strongman is a one use thing. Why would they waste it just to get rid of a confirmed townie? Then a detective shows up later, gets one of them down, and they can't kill a protected detective, so the detective is free to roam and find more.
I mean, if they wanna waste a Strongman on our confirmed townie - in case they have a Strongman - then let them be our guests xD Hopefully as Gry said the confirmed townie is a trap as well, lmao (the possibility alone should put the mafia away from the confirmed townie anyway).

You were talking about tanking penalties, so that would mean either the current RB coming out and saying "I have the One Ring" or him pointing at the guy he gave the ring to and saying "that guy has the One Ring".

 

[Farfalla]

You were talking about tanking penalties, so that would mean either the current RB coming out and saying "I have the One Ring" or him pointing at the guy he gave the ring to and saying "that guy has the One Ring".

Cause Brand's confusion confused me as well, when he mentioned the agreement.
In any case, when Gry mentioned his plan, he said that in the case the bearer wouldn't die, he could then reveal who he passed the ring to and tank the penalties. That way we keep confirming townies and narrowing down.

 

[Holt]

Yeah I'm really not getting Asako right now. You're saying you're hoping there is a BK from your initial statements? and now you're saying it may or may not be your role, and you won't confirm either for now?

 

[GrySun]

There is the non-disclosure agreement for previous ring bearers.

So? We all know it comes with penalty votes. But right now they're not significant enough to doom anyone whatsoever.

 

[Vandred]

Cause Brand's confusion confused me as well, when he mentioned the agreement.
In any case, when Gry mentioned his plan, he said that in the case the bearer wouldn't die, he could then reveal who he passed the ring to and tank the penalties. That way we keep confirming townies and narrowing down.

Ah, I see. Well in that case, it only works if we all agree to never use the One Ring and keep passing it around, which is quite risky if you ask me. Besides, I don't think we need that. The bearers can just reveal they were bearers themselves without saying anything about the others, and they'll be "temporarily confirmed" at least until the LotR happens to get the ring.

 

[GrySun]

I believe one can never reveal whom they gave the One Ring to, but they can reveal they had the Ring once they don't have it anymore. So if the Day 1 Ring Bearer passed it to someone, he could say they were the original RB but nothing more.

Even if he can't say who he gave it to without an immediate hostkill, it should suffice knowing who the ring bearer was day 1 so we have a confirmed townie. Then, if he doesn't die this night we know whoever he passed it to is also a townie. Then that guy can come out, tank a few penalties while we kill someone else. ANd we repeat.
It has it's many risks, but at least we can confirm a minimum of 2 people safely(the first guy who had it, and the one he gave it to if he didnt die after passing it). Could help us get some confirmed townies.

 

[Zasz]

Law, trolling as always.
Either way, I think I'm gonna vote for kira.

Votekill kira

His hint is not an hint and didn't partecipate much in today's debate.
Asako is hella suspicious as well, together with Juvii.

 

[Marmalade]

If the people who had/have the ring want to come forward and face the penalties/risks due to that, that will be their own decision. I hardly doubt anyone would raise their hand at this point. Especially not the current ring bearer.


How about we focus on who might be Mafia? I think Asako is trying to hint she could possibly be the barkeeper herself, yet she isn't confirming it for the full 100%. That at least was my first thought.

 

[Holt]

Ah, I see. Well in that case, it only works if we all agree to never use the One Ring and keep passing it around, which is quite risky if you ask me. Besides, I don't think we need that. The bearers can just reveal they were bearers themselves without saying anything about the others, and they'll be "temporarily confirmed" at least until the LotR happens to get the ring.

well saying something about the others could be worth it, especially if you consider death if you pass to mafia..so say x had the one ring and decided to pass to y, I'm not quite sure of the timeline but possible he could die in the night phase without getting to reveal who he passed the ring to, and mafia would have the ring, be able to pass it to the LoTR and we'd only find out when it's too late and there's already a disconnect in how the ring went round

 

[GrySun]

I can try explaining the plan better and in more detail if you guys are still confused about it.