Games Mafia Game 63 - Kuroko no Basket - END GAME

[Takuan]

You'd have to ask @GrySun

Bleh, gonna make my vote: votekill Takuan.
He's been driving me nuts currently... with the exact same MO from the previous game: follows the game by reading but barely posts, makes random placeholders "just in case" even though they are fully unecessary 'cause he afirmed he'd be back later (and he was indeed, with plenty of time to judge things, and then again he's been only reading and liking posts now); and then looks prone to follow bandwagons, asking people who to vote for and using that to have them decide his vote or something. It just bugs me to see him acting like that again and I can't ignore those resemblances, since he was mafia in that game... I gave him a full pass last time 'cause I thought he was a newbie trying to learn and that was it, but it wasn't.

Well i gotta say, i absolutely don't understand what's bothering you with my attitude.
If bandwaggoning wasn't a thing, nobody would ever do that. So what, should i just randomly pick one dude and vote against him for no specific reason?
And placeholders are a thing, from what i've been seeing since i started playing Mafia Games. Is it really that uncommon? I got a penalty vote on me because of not voting in time in my last MG.

And especially day 1, you can't seriously expect me to already have doubts on somebody and already be sure of my vote. So yes, i'm making placeholder votes, i'm asking people's opinion, i'm ready to bandwaggon especially day 1. Wow, how suspectful.

Anyway, it is true i acted the same way when i was mafia last time, and i think i always will, regardless of my role. Until i get more suspicious of people that is; but Day 1 hell yeah i'll act like that, and i'm not ashamed of it.
If you think i'm mafia, go ahead and vote me. Though i'll be honest, if you focus on me i'll focus equally on you; don't expect me not to react.
I'd be willing to get myself inverstigated to prove my innocence, but as DS said, dets aren't reliable that early in the game anyway.

 

[Farfalla]

Well, no. Considering that Ik you're following the game, I expected you to participate more and provide your inputs instead of just asking people and then placing a random vote later on based on wtv you got told. And then again, my main problem is that this was also the way you played last time, dunno if that's your attempt to blend in and not get yourself on spotlights or what, but it got you to fly freely for a good part of the game last time. Later on, when you were relevant for your mafia team to try to win, you became active and tried to influence people. I don't see why couldn't you be doing that alrdy now, if you're a townie also concerned about your victory...

 

[Takuan]

Well, no. Considering that Ik you're following the game, I expected you to participate more and provide your inputs instead of just asking people and then placing a random vote later on based on wtv you got told. And then again, my main problem is that this was also the way you played last time, dunno if that's your attempt to blend in and not get yourself on spotlights or what, but it got you to fly freely for a good part of the game last time. Later on, when you were relevant for your mafia team to try to win, you became active and tried to influence people. I don't see why couldn't you be doing that alrdy now, if you're a townie also concerned about your victory...

How useful exactly would my contribution be IN DAY 1.
you want to hear my contribution, i already said what i had to say: i have no idea who to vote against and who is suspicious. This is day 1, i have no clue, period.
You might be an amazing player if you can detect mafias during the first day phase only with your instinct, well i'm not as skilled, my bad. Actually no you're not skilled either, since you're suspecting me right now.
Sorry i'm slightly annoyed, forgive my words if i go too far.

I played like that the other game for the same exact reasons. I was a mafia det but for all the begining of the game we had like 3 consecutive day phases, so i couldn't talk to my team and couldn't investigate. Of course when i was able to investigate, i discovered James was mafia Gambler, lambu was mafia boss etc, and so i reacted and tried to participate more to get them lynched (though i got suspicious when i got active, so it seems i'll be suspectful regardless of what i do).

 

[Purity of Magi]

 

[Farfalla]

How useful exactly would my contribution be IN DAY 1.
you want to hear my contribution, i already said what i had to say: i have no idea who to vote against and who is suspicious. This is day 1, i have no clue, period.
You might be an amazing player if you can detect mafias during the first day phase only with your instinct, well i'm not as skilled, my bad. Actually no you're not skilled either, since you're suspecting me right now.
Sorry i'm slightly annoyed, forgive my words if i go too far.

I played like that the other game for the same exact reasons. I was a mafia det but for all the begining of the game we had like 3 consecutive day phases, so i couldn't talk to my team and couldn't investigate. Of course when i was able to investigate, i discovered James was mafia Gambler, lambu was mafia boss etc, and so i reacted and tried to participate more to get them lynched (though i got suspicious when i got active, so it seems i'll be suspectful regardless of what i do).

Yeah, like last time you were also just monitoring the game and Gry called you out on that. Then you started to participate and slowly faded away again, specially after he died, back to the backgrounds to follow the flow.
So sorry for suspecting someone that's purposefully staying out of the radars, that's too classical and proved to be right about you last time. Of course it doesn't mean I'm certain you're mafia, I'm just sharing my suspicion on you (which is the one that stood out the most to me due to that), and even in Day 1 we should work with our suspicions, otherwise it's like saying we shouldn't pressure anyone and let mafia fade away if they have the chance to.
So yeah, I'm sticking to my vote, which I believe to be reasonable, unless I gotta protect myself or something weird happens.

 

[Takuan]

Yeah, like last time you were also just monitoring the game and Gry called you out on that. Then you started to participate and slowly faded away again, specially after he died, back to the backgrounds to follow the flow.
So sorry for suspecting someone that's purposefully staying out of the radars, that's too classical and proved to be right about you last time. Of course it doesn't mean I'm certain you're mafia, I'm just sharing my suspicion on you (which is the one that stood out the most to me due to that), and even in Day 1 we should work with our suspicions, otherwise it's like saying we shouldn't pressure anyone and let mafia fade away if they have the chance to.
So yeah, I'm sticking to my vote, which I believe to be reasonable, unless I gotta protect myself or something weird happens.

It is your choice, i'll respect it eventhough i'd like to convince you i'm an innocent. In any case, as i was saying i had no idea who to vote against, which is still the case, but at least now i know who to target anyway. And i hope you're mafia, like i've seen people debating over earlier in the thread.

Votekill Farfalla

 

[Farfalla]

So your defense is a revenge vote, where "you hope I'm mafia", when you weren't even in danger? Oookay...

 

[Takuan]

So your defense is a revenge vote, where "you hope I'm mafia", when you weren't even in danger? Oookay...

My defense? I have nothing to defend myself against, aside from what you're thinking about me which i already responded to.
Call it a revenge vote if you want; for now:
1) I don't know who could be mafia
2) People talked about the possibility of you being mafia due to not acting like usual (or something like that, need to reread)
3) You voted me.

So yes i'm voting against you. And this is groundless, just like your vote on me, so don't blame me for it, you started this. I even told you i would.
In any case, we're both voting each other so there's no point arguing anymore. Let's just hope none of us will get lynched (or if one gets lynched, let's hope it's a mafia).

 

[Farfalla]

Well, mine isn't groundless ^^' as I said, I believe it's a reasonable vote. And it's cute to have you hope your own self is máfia with that last sentence...

 

[Takuan]

Well, mine isn't groundless ^^' as I said, I believe it's a reasonable vote. And it's cute to have you hope your own self is máfia with that last sentence...

don't worry, i know i'm not mafia lol

 

[Vandred]

But maybe that comes down to 1: he’s a “newer” player and their definitions vary and 2: it’s something internal “between them” (or it’s just too early in the morning for my simple mind to comprehend).

It's number 2. The rest I've already explained.

I'm trying to be vague as well but this is getting harder to maintain... I didn't mean this current game structure @.@ I meant MG structure overall. You know it's not a "double" case per se, or at least I don't imagine it to be. I expect one of us not to be a real deal, unless you didn't get my reveal and we've been having some lunatic discussion here. Since I know I'm townie and I trust you (otherwise I'll be torn between admiring your move and hating myself forever for falling for it), that's the most likely situation in my head. Or maybe it's cause I wasnt the real deal in the past...
I wish I could hope this would end up as "not that big of a damage" if you guys wanna proceed like that on goddamn day 1, but that speedgame taught me not to treat myself as possibly disposable in small games... we didn't even saw the loss hitting our faces there (well, "us" town, since you got the luxury of acting recklessly, since it benefited you as mafia in that case).
Also, I don't get you. Appearing at the end of the day with the same role you have won't give you answers on yourself (and that makes me go back to if we're having some lunatic talk). I clearly disclosured my role to you. If it wasn't clear to you, then we're prolly discussing different things... (and I'm basically just revealing myself to the rest now like a dumbass).


Cause I'm trying not to be a fullcore bitch to people in game it might not look like it but it makes me feel terrible after. I'm improving on that but maybe you don't see it cause you didn't play the last games. Last time I was only guilty of calling Demon an asshole, as far as I remember u.u I rly don't see the difference on my approach aside from that, since I'm pretty much doing the same as always. Last time, calling Demon names only happened on day 3 as well. That's why I rly don't get your point, blame it on you being away, and would only accpet Van's doubts as a motive - but a weak and hasty one =_= as complicated as Vandred made it sound, if it was that hard to check on people, Dets wouldn't be as valuable. Van seems to have his ways as well to feel better about me, another thing that makes me not get his rush. In a small game where every night matters and Dets have a lag disadvantage, our issue makes even more sense to me, specially cause Gry enjoys his twists.
But yeah, pro townies early lynchings always look stupid to me, this aint the first time and won't be the last one I say it.
Meanwhile, no more questioning is done on anyone else... Gotta love day 1s...

Yes, Faffs, I'm pretty certain I got your role.

The stuff about being the real deal is what I mentioned as the issue with being unable to confirm each other by sharing results. And you showing as mafia once lynched would at least make me a bit more comfortable about that issue with my own role, while you actually showing with that role would just mean I'll have to hope for luck.

The amount of doubt I'm reserving myself is that I can see a setup with two of these roles, even with both being the real deal, if Gry didn't include other roles that are staples in "conventional" setups in order to spice things up. I wouldn't say that makes me feel better about this whole thing, though...

 

[Farfalla]

Yeah but right now I'm honestly considering to just reveal myself, it's not like argumenting prevented me from being top voted and it amazes me that the best thing people seem to have for today is to lynch my role, since most might get alrdy. Heck, you could even take measures on me yourself...

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2018 ---

The phase also ends in 1h

 

[Lambu]

Im back, catching up

How am I weird LOL.
I get Vandred, but defo not your nor Misho XD~ And the reason why I get Van shouldn't even be clear to the rest of the players O.o and there is a reason behind that.
I got an active townie role, which doesn't say much since half of the players said the same but yeah (although... maybe that explains my exchange with Vandred). Saying it's not something I'm playing with for the first time could get you to not many acttive townie roles, unless you're lazy. I'm confident Vandred knows my role and maybe another player in this game, but that's kinda it.
This "let's get her, trust me" and "she's weird" with no other basis feels like not willing much to dig other things 'cause "day 1" and, I'm sry, but a bit of you being butthurt 'cause I said you just made a move like you did in the previous game, where you were mafia... And I wasn't the single one to say that, Demon said it as well. I'm gonna have fun if he becomes you're next "weird person" '-'"

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2018 ---

Based on what, Guregu? D: I'm not used to see you doing "dry" "random" votes... even in D1.
(I consider it being not random, but then I don't get the coloring special effects XD )

I never referenced Van (I still dont get your role tbh) I just feel like you are not your usual self.
If theres a day to trust hunches it should be Day 1 lmao. I wont get you lynched based on that dw... or maybe yes?

 

[Farfalla]

Are you for real? XD as things stand, yes?
Cant believe wtv you saw of different in me is worse than Takuan making the same claim last time, playing the same way last time and defending it with the reasoning he had in the previous game "I'm waiting on my team". Even both of his votes alone should be a worst case then "Farfalla didn't flame" or wtv you callled weird since you never explained.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

i am back


inb4 crescent comes back and votes gnut hehehehehehehehe

 

[Lambu]

LOL would you make up your mind, woman? You expect me to be less passive and fight accusations and then to chill? ...=-= Jesus Christ...

She's hinting Jesus!! Kill her!

Still to early to say my role, it's only day 1 but I can say that this role can get me killed.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 16, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 16, 2018 ---

Farfy seem to be trust worthy now, but don't know whar to think qbout gnut.

So your role is not very useful but can get you killed, huh...


My personal hunch is the Mafia to be: Farf-Orgz-Asako (just for the records)

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

yeah sure hinted so well this day phase

b-r-a-v-o~~

 

[Lambu]

Just so you know, the first thing is a joke (for thin skinned people) ._.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

My personal hunch is the Mafia to be: Farf-Orgz-Asako (just for the records)

i doubt it. I think its farf 100% crescent like around 50% idk the third

can u kill farfu

 

[Farfalla]

I'm a Spy =_= that's the post I made for Vandred. And sure, have me lynched without knowing the setup, sounds sooo harmful to have me around right... Nothing that can't be done with caution, right...
Makes me think of the Speed game all over again: expect people didn't have the time to think there.

Sure, mine is not old school but not new either at this point. Playing it for the second or third time as well. Yay, someone else is pulling this now, feels bad to squeeze for hints alone now that Gry is "out" @.@