Kato showed as one upon death. Hardy denied being one. James, gnut and me claimed we were one.
Not about you mentioning yourself but insisting that you're clean and I have a worse case
Kato was a naive Traitor, but I was looking forward to seeing who will harp the most about Kato's words in the next day. I won't lie about having only one person if I don't. If anything I'd lie about not being Traitor, which could be what you're doing here. 
But the possibility of you being a legit traitor and getting recruited, would potentially lead town to want to lynch you. Am i wrong?
Hmm...not necessarily,it'd be a 50/50 for us to lynch him depending if he is a legit traitor or not as well. We would be taking a Risk and could lose another Member.
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Here's the thing though, in recent games players have screwed my team way more than you did in that game, and i never bashed them. The problem i have with you is the way you're playing, not only in that particular game, but in every game. So yes in every game i'm talking about it, and usually i'm not even bashing you, im just saying i want you to contribute more. That first game only served me as being aware of that; and you never changed that way of playing.
Properly catching up right now,on page 11 currently
But killing me now just for the 50% chance is an awful move for us, which is why I was fine with revealing it. Mafia will lose a kill trying to recruit me if they do, or outright kill me if I'm naive, so lynching me after being recruited is better for town. Meanwhile we can actually lynch a current mafia this day. Even if I was 100% confirmed a real Traitor, killing me while I am still town is much worse for us than for them.
Why would I panick?Looks to me like you're panickingHaven't managed to start a bandwagon on me yet while I was absent I see.
You want me to lie to you? I don't know what others have, but my traitor list has three people. But if that's really less common then that fits even better with the role I have. Both a good, but not op combo due to having more names, or a big troll to screw over more.
I didn't insist my case was clear, I insisted he was omitting someone that was evidently worth suspecting hardcore.Not about you mentioning yourself but insisting that you're clean and I have a worse case
A big reason why I revealed this is so we can think about this Det situation better, because if I'm real traitor it could make you innocent. But if I'm not, and you're adamant about not having a traitor secondary role, then you can only be mafia. Else I'd have locked you long ago when James came with the results, but it isn't so simple.
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It's quite higher than 50 % already thanks to the detective results, Kato and the fact that your list is different.But killing me now just for the 50% chance is an awful move for us, which is why I was fine with revealing it. Mafia will lose a kill trying to recruit me if they do, or outright kill me if I'm naive, so lynching me after being recruited is better for town. Meanwhile we can actually lynch a current mafia this day. Even if I was 100% confirmed a real Traitor, killing me while I am still town is much worse for us than for them.
You are right that it's suicidal for future day phases, but I honestly don't even see myself reaching them. If it gets to it and you become unable to trust me then you can lynch me, maybe then I will actually be a mafia for which they used a kill to recruit. But now I'd just die as town and our position would be worse. And my win condition will be with town too
Exactly,i am being careful probably overly careful should've played more relying on my gut like last time but i felt like going in with some sort of Plan would be the way to go. People did forget that i did gave a hint to a made Up claim though,not even Van in his investigator-Mode made it an Effort to get behind that.Properly catching up right now,on page 11 currently
You feel suspicious,who takes that long to come up with a hint? Feels like ur being too careful
But killing me now just for the 50% chance is an awful move for us, which is why I was fine with revealing it. Mafia will lose a kill trying to recruit me if they do, or outright kill me if I'm naive, so lynching me after being recruited is better for town. Meanwhile we can actually lynch a current mafia this day. Even if I was 100% confirmed a real Traitor, killing me while I am still town is much worse for us than for them.
You are right that it's suicidal for future day phases, but I honestly don't even see myself reaching them. If it gets to it and you become unable to trust me then you can lynch me, maybe then I will actually be a mafia for which they used a kill to recruit. But now I'd just die as town and our position would be worse. And my win condition will be with town too
Alright, i guess you're right. I don't think i've ever played with a traitor in the game before (i don't think at least) so it's all new for me.
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How is he right? Saying it's 50 % is oversimplifying it, don't let them deceive you.
I don't know, you tell me. You're in this funny situation with me, immediately making your conclusions to stay alive and hope not to be lynched today.
What? He showed as Traitor when we lynched him yesterday. Or is there a way he isn't a Traitor?
I don't know if I'm a true Traitor, but I will play for them if I get recruited of course. Until then I'm playing like town, because I could still be naive, and if I die before they recruit me I'll still win together with town. I won't be like Demon that one game where he was Traitor, playing against town all game but then dying last, losing with town. If they can recruit me they can go ahead, if not I'll die. Until then I'll try to help town.
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Your list being different means that it's either the only "true" list or that you are bsing, I'm leaning on the latter, so yeah I'd be in a pretty good situation honestly you like it or not.
Nah, I like going against vocal people
And could easily just lock you now as you did with me. But sadly I still get the feeling like you're an awful townie, rather than just a desperate mafia hiding it.
Not with hiding 2nd roles when killed at night, wouldn't really make sense to me. Then again it is Panda we are talking about. xD
Don't ignore my question Hardy. If you're trying to frame me at least try to make sense
Or did you not look at the ending post of day 1?
Of course, you know who's mafia, deducing who is a townie is easier for you.
...I replied?Don't ignore my question Hardy. If you're trying to frame me at least try to make sense
Mate I'm not a Hider nor a traitor
