Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Mankichi Togawa]

Even ignoring Medaka Box characters, I'd argue Midora from Toriko is more broken.

Dunno. Kenshiro kills people just touching them with his pinky finger. I recall Midora actually lost fights but don't remember very well his power.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Dunno. Kenshiro kills people just touching them with his pinky finger. I recall Midora actually lost fights but don't remember very well his power.

Midora lost fights because Toriko is a crazy OP setting. It's kinda part of the appeal.

 

[Halloween]

Dunno. Kenshiro kills people just touching them with his pinky finger. I recall Midora actually lost fights but don't remember very well his power.

Oh man, where to begin. Just off the top of my head, Midora can:

Spoiler

- Move massively faster than light.
- Can turn completely invisible.
- Has control of Minority World, which reverses causality. So he can literally make a living person start dying instantly.
- Has the ability to copy powers/abilities.
- Has Food Luck, which literally alters luck probability, so attacks will suddenly start missing against him, etc.
- He has faster than light healing regeneration, so even if you do manage to hit him, he'll heal instantly.
- He likely copied Jirou's abilities, which would allow him to use knocking to freeze enemies in place for eternity, to literally stop time, etc.

 

[lgrmjauffre]

I know it has ecchi to some extent in it, but does anyone know if the volume releases of Medaka Box had any *actual* nudity in them? I've come to realize the only way we'll ever get it in English is if Seven Seas licenses it, and I was just wondering if it were more likely to be released under the Seven Seas imprint, or the Ghost Ship one.

 

[Rain Spectre]

I know it has ecchi to some extent in it, but does anyone know if the volume releases of Medaka Box had any *actual* nudity in them? I've come to realize the only way we'll ever get it in English is if Seven Seas licenses it, and I was just wondering if it were more likely to be released under the Seven Seas imprint, or the Ghost Ship one.

No. All things considered, they're pretty tame.

Also, if Seven Seas does try them, I weep for the poor soul who to translate the Marriage Candidate fights.

 

[Unok]

Oh man, where to begin. Just off the top of my head, Midora can:

Spoiler

- Move massively faster than light.
- Can turn completely invisible.
- Has control of Minority World, which reverses causality. So he can literally make a living person start dying instantly.
- Has the ability to copy powers/abilities.
- Has Food Luck, which literally alters luck probability, so attacks will suddenly start missing against him, etc.
- He has faster than light healing regeneration, so even if you do manage to hit him, he'll heal instantly.
- He likely copied Jirou's abilities, which would allow him to use knocking to freeze enemies in place for eternity, to literally stop time, etc.

Spoiler

And his most basic one: his extending tongue that devours everything he touches. So in a way this is just like Kenshiro "pinky touch", except much much more stronger, ranged & faster. And with the rest you mentioned... yeah, not broken at all XD

 

[shoyoboyo]

How is Kenshiro the most broken, Najimi Ajimu has almost 13 quadrillion powers. Nice bias, manki B)

 

[lgrmjauffre]

No. All things considered, they're pretty tame.

Also, if Seven Seas does try them, I weep for the poor soul who to translate the Marriage Candidate fights.

Ah, I see. Thank you for the reply. I had thought as much, but I was just curious. Hoping against hope it's one of the new licenses they announce at Anime Expo this week.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

How is Kenshiro the most broken, Najimi Ajimu has almost 13 quadrillion powers. Nice bias, manki B)

>13 quadrillion powers
(Medaka spoilers)

Spoiler

>Killed by a rubber band

Midora is more threatening

 

[Rain Spectre]

>13 quadrillion powers
(Medaka spoilers)

Spoiler

>Killed by a rubber band

Midora is more threatening

Spoiler

Killed by a rubber band from a guy whose power is basically "I Win" and was only beaten by someone with the power of nullifying plot armor.

 

[shoyoboyo]

implying Kenshiro wouldn't also be defeated in the same way

 

[Halloween]

Spoiler

And his most basic one: his extending tongue that devours everything he touches. So in a way this is just like Kenshiro "pinky touch", except much much more stronger, ranged & faster. And with the rest you mentioned... yeah, not broken at all XD

Spoiler

Not only that, everything you and I mentioned he can do on a Jupiter-sized (or slightly smaller) planetary scale.

The guy is insane. And to think, not once did he ever fear NEO, even though NEO consumed all life in several universes. However, the lone time he ever felt fear in his entire life, it was when he felt a tiny glimpse of Toriko's inner white demon's power.

That's what upset the most about Toriko ending. At the end, Toriko only unlocked 1/3rd of his full potential. White dwarfed Blue, who dwarfed Red. He only fully unlocked the power of Red.

Imagine a hypothetical Toriko that fully unlocked his FULL power. We'd definitely be seeing Toriko vs. Dragon Ball Super debates.

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Sorry guys, just realized parts of this discussion should be in spoilers, as not everyone has read Toriko. @Unok I manually added them into your post.

 

[Jovan]

another one bites the dust

Also, besides the known ending of Shokugeki no Souma Etoile and that one...
Ex-Arm has ended on Jump+ after 98 chapters. The series will return back to Grand Jump through a sequel Ex-Arm Ex.
Yesterday, Jump+ has also ended ONE PIECE - Kobi ni no Kobiyama after 47 chapters. Volumes 2 and 3 to release in 3 days.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

Ex-Arm has ended on Jump+ after 98 chapters. The series will return back to Grand Jump through a sequel Ex-Arm Ex.

Not to obsessively be the GJ guy but it’s actually gonna be in Grand Jump Mucha, a spin-off magazine that runs six times a year. So Ex-Arm is actually on its third publication now, which has to say SOMETHING about its appeal

 

[Jovan]

Not to obsessively be the GJ guy but it’s actually gonna be in Grand Jump Mucha, a spin-off magazine that runs six times a year. So Ex-Arm is actually on its third publication now, which has to say SOMETHING about its appeal

That is actually interesting, thanks for the info! Never heard about this magazine before (Grand Jump Mucha I mean).

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Spoiler

Not only that, everything you and I mentioned he can do on a Jupiter-sized (or slightly smaller) planetary scale.

The guy is insane. And to think, not once did he ever fear NEO, even though NEO consumed all life in several universes. However, the lone time he ever felt fear in his entire life, it was when he felt a tiny glimpse of Toriko's inner white demon's power.

That's what upset the most about Toriko ending. At the end, Toriko only unlocked 1/3rd of his full potential. White dwarfed Blue, who dwarfed Red. He only fully unlocked the power of Red.

Imagine a hypothetical Toriko that fully unlocked his FULL power. We'd definitely be seeing Toriko vs. Dragon Ball Super debates.

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 1, 2019, Original Post Date: Jul 1, 2019 ---

Sorry guys, just realized parts of this discussion should be in spoilers, as not everyone has read Toriko. @Unok I manually added them into your post.

I think I will start reading Toriko today, I have been trying to decide whether to start this or Shaman King.

 

[Nemesis]

Medaka, Kumagawa and Ajimu alone are the most powerful of WSJ by a long shot with their powers. They're level of entities in some or all aspects. lol

 

[Tamil]

Dunno. Kenshiro kills people just touching them with his pinky finger. I recall Midora actually lost fights but don't remember very well his power.

Toriko characters are light years stronger than anything we've seen from WSJ in the past decades. I think Saint Seiya is the only one that tops it iirc.

 

[TxxT]

Amazon Rankings 0600 JST - July 2nd 2019

-phy- | -dig- | vol.
****4 | ***78 | OP 93 (digital in Aug)
***49 | ****2 | KNY 16
**220 | ***51 | SxF 1
**252 | ***14 | JJK 6
**273 | **127 | BC 21
**541 | ***15 | DS 11
**561 | ***46 | AA 7
**622 | **185 | PE 11
**782 | **196 | Moriarty 9
*1270 | **141 | HZ 26
*3066 | *1302 | BC quartet 2
*4909 | *2594 | Kamio Yui 1
*5278 | *1501 | HG 1
*8877 | *3510 | David 4
22242 | *8168 | Saiyuki 1
29179 | *9376 | ne0 3

 

[Tamil]

I think I will start reading Toriko today, I have been trying to decide whether to start this or Shaman King.

Definitely get on reading Toriko.

 

[Jovan]

To go full TL here
1. Jujutsu Kaisen
2. Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. Haikyuu
4. Chainsaw Man
5. Saigo no Saiyuuki
6. We Never Learn
7. Kinnikuman Special
8. Act-Age
9. Shokugeki no Soma (END)
10. My Hero Academia
11. Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui
12. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
13. Beast Children
14. Samurai 8
15. Dr. Stone
16. Black Clover
17. Hinomaru Zumou
18. Double Taisei
19. Tokyo Shinobi Squad
20. The Promised Neverland

As a follow up for this (in no way should this be taken as the real magazine voting), poll for the WSJ Issue 30 has ended.

1. Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Jujutsu Kaisen
3. Chainsaw Man
4. Kakuremi (Oneshot)
5. Act-Age
6. Hinomaru Zumou
7. Haikyuu
8. Saigo no Saiyuuki
9. Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui
10. Dr. Stone
11. We Never Learn
12. The Promised Neverland
13. Beast Children
14. My Hero Academia
15. Futari no Taisei
16. One Piece
17. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
18. Samurai 8
19. Tokyo Shinobi Squad