Discussion Who Are Your Top 10 Strongest Characters?

[Samael Morningstar]

Not really. It just proved (again) that Nakaba is an inconsistent writer who is incapable of writing without contradicting himself at every turn. The Graces being fragments of the SD's power is not a myth, it's a fact from the manga. Ludoshel already stated at around chapter 250 or so that the Graces are similar to the Commandments. If you connect the dots you will come to the conclusion that since Commandments are fragments of the DK's power and the Graces are essentialy the same as the Commandments, the Graces are also fragments of the SD's power.

Let's say though that you're right and the Graces aren't fragments of the SD's power, that would mean two things:

1. The SD was at full power during the entirely of the war and the DK equalled her with only half of his true power, which is the same as saying DK (100%) > SD. The DK is a moron for not crushing her.

2. The SD doesn't lose any power for creating blessings like the Sun Grace, which makes the user at noon potentially stronger than herself at full power (as you can see, this doesn't make any sense at all). If that's the case then why the SD wasn't able to just create an army of Goddesses who had the Sun Grace, come to the Demon Realm and fodderize the DC? I mean, if she doesn't lose any power at all from creating the Grace as you're trying to imply, the SD is just an even greater moron than the DK.

As you can see, none of the two options make the slightest bit of sense. The only way this makes sense is if the Graces are fragments of the SD's power (it has been stated by Ludo already too).



This is bullshit and you know it. The power that set the rules for the user of the Sun Grace to increase his/her power during the day, peaking at noon, is the SD's power and it makes no sense that a Sun user at noon makes the God who set these rules in the first place hopeless.

Besides, how was there any balance in the first place if what you're saying is true? If Noon Mael makes Prime DK (the strongest demon at that time by far) hopeless then why was Mael considered Prime Mel's equal without the OG Magic? See how you're not making any sense? Why would Mael be that afraid of fighting the DK if he makes him hopeless?

Fine if you don't want to accept its just a matter of time that what I've said is going to happen, also it's sad that you're still trying to remain logical and consistent with this manga
Still in the end don't complain then for what Escanor will do to DK at One Mode and get a hint of Mael's power

 

[Shadowlord123]

Fine if you don't want to accept its just a matter of time that what I've said is going to happen, also it's sad that you're still trying to remain logical and consistent with this manga
Still in the end don't complain then for what Escanor will do to DK at One Mode and get a hint of Mael's power

All I'm saying is that it doesn't make any sense for Noon Mael or Escanor to be above the Gods. Whether it's going to actually happen or not it's an entirely different story since Nakaba's sense of power consistency is pretty fucked up at this point to say the least. I won't be surprised if it happens but I prefer to have a tad bit of faith in Nakaba, even if at this point it's pretty much impossible. We'll see I guess.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

All I'm saying is that it doesn't make any sense for Noon Mael or Escanor to be above the Gods. Whether it's going to actually happen or not it's an entirely different story since Nakaba's sense of power consistency is pretty fucked up at this point to say the least. I won't be surprised if it happens but I prefer to have a tad bit of faith in Nakaba, even if at this point it's pretty much impossible. We'll see I guess.

Well yes make sense or not if that happens we have to change the previously established facts and put things in order keeping in view of the current situations

--- Double Post Merged, Jul 31, 2019, Original Post Date: Jul 31, 2019 ---

Admit it or not Estarossa is absolutely the strongest character not just in NNT verse but in all of fiction

 

[Ema919]

If the one mael was actually stronger than the gods the holy war would've been over in a single day, Mael would've mopped the floor with every single enemy easily, even meliodas. That said, Escanor blocking the DK's attack that easily isn't meaningless and could lead to unprecedent levels of bad writing, with Escanor being the strongest being on the field, but I'm all for it.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

Bad writing or not, if that happens then it's an fact, believe or not

 

[Seven777]

I'd say Escanor just being stronger than Mael is more likely. If Sunshine were the only thing that made him this powerful he would've been able to annihilate Meliodas and everything else back in the day.

If I had to guess, right now Escanor is to Mael, what King is to Gloxinia. Leagues upon leagues more powerful despite far less experience and initial strength, because they are Sins.

 

[Samael Morningstar]

I'd say Escanor just being stronger than Mael is more likely. If Sunshine were the only thing that made him this powerful he would've been able to annihilate Meliodas and everything else back in the day.

If I had to guess, right now Escanor is to Mael, what King is to Gloxinia. Leagues upon leagues more powerful despite far less experience and initial strength, because they are Sins.

Well we might get an explanation next chapter about the power up.
If not there's no way Escanor is stronger than Mael nothing even suggests that at best it can be that both are equal like Escanor getting more physicals and less magic from sunshine where as Mael's case is he gets more magic power and less physicals from sunshine

 

[Ema919]

Well we might get an explanation next chapter about the power up.
If not there's no way Escanor is stronger than Mael nothing even suggests that at best it can be that both are equal like Escanor getting more physicals and less magic from sunshine where as Mael's case is he gets more magic power and less physicals from sunshine

There are two ways actually.

1. Bad Writing
2. Escanor having some latent powers that differ from solely having sunshine.

 

[Shadowlord123]

Escanor is probably stronger than Mael, as much little sense it does. He's a Sin and that means bullshit writing for him, just like the others:

- Gloxinia at some point was the strongest Fairy and he was like 50K. Nakaba made King fodderize someone with a 200K+ PL, humiliate the Sinner who should be even stronger while heavily nerfed and keep up with the DK. The dude is probably easily 400K, if not more. We all knew King was going to be stronger than Gloxinia but to this extend is just ridiculous, and all because of his friends.

- Diane, who can dance to 50K max actually damaged an Indura of Favor and this Indura should be comparable to Monspeet and Derieri who tanked Ludo's 201K+ attacks without a scratch and put up a fierce fight against Goddess Eli.

- Merlin went from "holy shit, this dude Galan is 26K, he's going to trash us, let's get the fuck out of here" to "PoWeR LeVeLs aRe BuLlShIt" and proceed to fodderize Chandler and Cusack. Even now, she seems to be pretty confident against the DK so one can expect even more asspulls from her. She may be able to remember even more things

- Mel just needed to try harder. He was a little bit afraid of fodderizing his father with his OG Magic. Even now the dude is still holding back. There hasn't been any single battle in this series in which Mel has gone all out.

- Gowther got like ten times stronger just because he recovered some memories.

- Ban's power up looks like the most logical and deserved, but the increase in power is just way too ridiculous. This dude went from Holy Knight Tier to actually stand up against DK Mel while holding back.

So I won't even be surprised if Escanor is way stronger than Mael now and can stand up or even overwhelm Prime DK. One can expect pretty much anything coming from the Sins at this point. The fact that it makes sense or not doesn't even matter. ,

 

[XXGenesis]

Only way to make sense of the inconsitencies is to rank them through tiers..

Nakaba troll'd Meliodas full strength and made Mael too strong with sunshine because the difference between him and Escanor is too great..Which makes it inconsistent to the power scailing. Also Sinner shouldn't have been fodderized like that, after Ludoshel's was being beaten by Cusack's..Also,

God Tier
1) SD / DK/ Zeldoris DK final form
2) Meliodas Currently../OG magic
3) Purgatory DK
4) DK possessed Meliodas
5) DK Zeldoris 1st form

Transcendent
1) Ban
2) King
3) Mael
4) Escanor One Mode ???
5) Zeldoris
6) Sinner

As for how the trancendents stack up as to who's really the strongest fest amongst that tier...Too much wank to consider...OM was stopped by the One mode with effort, yet Mael manages to melt the sword, of Zeldoris..not the darkness that he's moving at lightspeed around him up create that vortex...

 

[Samael Morningstar]

There are two ways actually.

1. Bad Writing
2. Escanor having some latent powers that differ from solely having sunshine.

It should be better explained next chapter if he's having a latent power or any kind of power up

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 1, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 1, 2019 ---

Escanor is probably stronger than Mael, as much little sense it does. He's a Sin and that means bullshit writing for him, just like the others:

- Gloxinia at some point was the strongest Fairy and he was like 50K. Nakaba made King fodderize someone with a 200K+ PL, humiliate the Sinner who should be even stronger while heavily nerfed and keep up with the DK. The dude is probably easily 400K, if not more. We all knew King was going to be stronger than Gloxinia but to this extend is just ridiculous, and all because of his friends.

- Diane, who can dance to 50K max actually damaged an Indura of Favor and this Indura should be comparable to Monspeet and Derieri who tanked Ludo's 201K+ attacks without a scratch and put up a fierce fight against Goddess Eli.

- Merlin went from "holy shit, this dude Galan is 26K, he's going to trash us, let's get the fuck out of here" to "PoWeR LeVeLs aRe BuLlShIt" and proceed to fodderize Chandler and Cusack. Even now, she seems to be pretty confident against the DK so one can expect even more asspulls from her. She may be able to remember even more things

- Mel just needed to try harder. He was a little bit afraid of fodderizing his father with his OG Magic. Even now the dude is still holding back. There hasn't been any single battle in this series in which Mel has gone all out.

- Gowther got like ten times stronger just because he recovered some memories.

- Ban's power up looks like the most logical and deserved, but the increase in power is just way too ridiculous. This dude went from Holy Knight Tier to actually stand up against DK Mel while holding back.

So I won't even be surprised if Escanor is way stronger than Mael now and can stand up or even overwhelm Prime DK. One can expect pretty much anything coming from the Sins at this point. The fact that it makes sense or not doesn't even matter. ,

In short plot armor

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 1, 2019 ---

I don't really care about who's stronger Mael or Escanor cause both are my favourites equally, tho it won't logically make sense for escanor to be stronger than mael but still okay, he's also equally favorite as Mael

 

[BurlapJack]

Diane, who can dance to 50K max actually damaged an Indura of Favor and this Indura should be comparable to Monspeet and Derieri who tanked Ludo's 201K+ attacks without a scratch and put up a fierce fight against Goddess Eli.

Oh shit...

Diane hits harder than fucking ludociel that's hilarious

 

[OtakuFreak]

- Diane, who can dance to 50K max actually damaged an Indura of Favor and this Indura should be comparable to Monspeet and Derieri who tanked Ludo's 201K+ attacks without a scratch and put up a fierce fight against Goddess Eli.

Yeah, it's bullshit.

Indura made 4AA tier Goddesses sweat yet 50,000 Diane can make Indura sweat instead.

Pretty sad.

 

[BurlapJack]

Yeah, it's bullshit.

Indura made 4AA tier Goddesses sweat yet 50,000 Diane can make Indura sweat instead.

Pretty sad.

The power of plot and coke

 

[Shadowlord123]

Oh shit...

Diane hits harder than fucking ludociel that's hilarious

Yeah, it's bullshit.

Indura made 4AA tier Goddesses sweat yet 50,000 Diane can make Indura sweat instead.

Pretty sad.

You guys just wait. Nakaba brought Diane to this battlefield for a reason aside from getting corny lines. Y'all are not ready for that 1 million PL Diane! DK is about to get his cheeks clapped. Escanor comes first of course.

DK: Hahaha. I. AM. A. FUCKING. GOD! A mere fraction of the SD's power cannot beat me!

Escanor: Who decided that? *starts babyshaking him at noon*

After some time, the DK survives The One barely and stomps the Sins.

DK: Now, it's over! *proceeds to try to chop King's head*

Diane: DO. NOT. TOUCH. MY. HUSBANDO!!! *powers up to 1 million+ and claps the DK's ass*

DK survives again and power ups even further beyond.

DK: Now it's over for real! Your bullshit won't have an effect on me anymore!

Merlin: Hold on, I just remembered something. *proceeds to unleash a brainwashed SD from one of her test tubes*

DK: ...

Mel: Now it's my time to try even harder! *powers up to the max and oneshots the DK. The SD just happened to get in the way and got oneshotted too*

Ban: But Captain, what about your little bro?

Mel: Who? I can't remember him. Let's go to drink. This battle made me thirsty asf, and not only for water!

Series ends. Fuck Arthur, Gelda and MoC, btw. 10/10.

 

[BurlapJack]

Mel: Who? I can't remember him. Let's go to drink. This battle made me thirsty asf, and not only for water!

And the world magically stops having storms because mel is there and never needed to fear the world rejecting him

 

[Shadowlord123]

And the world magically stops having storms because mel is there and never needed to fear the world rejecting him

Pretty sure that's going to be solved too by the end of the series. I mean, from my view, he only needs to hold back and who is better than Mel at holding back? Nobody. This man has never gone all out and the series is near its end.

 

[BurlapJack]

Pretty sure that's going to be solved too by the end of the series. I mean, from my view, he only needs to hold back and who is better than Mel at holding back? Nobody. This man has never gone all out and the series is near its end.

With the way things are going i really wouldn't doubt the possibility of nakaba just going "screw it" and scrapping the whole too strong to be in this world bit and just moving on without bringing it up again like he's been doing a lot lately

 

[bighoss]

1. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
2. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
3. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
4. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
5. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
6. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
7. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
8. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
9. Meliodas, Escanor, Mael, Ban, King, Arthur, Supreme Deity or Merlin
10. The Demon King

Elizabeth and the MOC also belong anywhere on the list above the Demon King. Decide the order yourselves, because Nakaba seems to be doing so already depending on his mood.

 

[HereNThere]

Currenty:

Mel
Demon King
King/Ban/Escanor
Elizabeth
Everyone else