Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[puppeto4]

One Piece Doors 3 will out finaly 04/10.

Special Reprint :
28/08 : Kimetsu Fanbook
29/08 : Gintama Fanbook & Gintama #77

Out 01/11 :

Shônen Jump :
We Never Learn #14
Saigo no Saiyuki #03 (End)
Haikyu #40
Dr Stone #13
Futari no Taisei #02

Oh, look like Taise would at least run for 3 volume. Shame that it would go the same way all the other shogi manga before it

 

[xAsum0x]

How close is JJK to pass Black Clover in sales?

 

[BaNChiGay]

How close is JJK to pass Black Clover in sales?

50k+.BC vol 21 do 214k in 4 weeks Jujutsu latest volume do 160k in 4 weeks. Tho Jujutsu already pass BC pre-anime sales

 

[Halloween]

Just out of curiosity, how does CSM and JJK compare sales wise at similar points?

 

[BaNChiGay]

My bet
On top 5
1. OP
2. TpN
3&4. Kingdom/KnY

These 4 is guaranteed in top 4 5th position is tricky. There's like 4 series fighting on it.

Book rank
>MHA-4,294,038(vol 24 included)
>Slime-3,486,058(guess this already lose?)
>5bun-4,293,071(this ganna win if it release another volume)
>AoT-4M+ probably?(can't really find it. TOO MANY MANGA FOR KONDASHA!)

 

[Jovan]

Just out of curiosity, how does CSM and JJK compare sales wise at similar points?

JJK did 2x the sales in Volume 3 (102k in 13 days per Oricon)

 

[TyVip]

Just out of curiosity, how does CSM and JJK compare sales wise at similar points?

JJK has more. By volume 4 it has 1.1 million copies in print (which can be compare to Neverland 1.5 million copies in print by volume 5), by volume 2 it has 300,000 and later 400,000 in a couple days.

CSM has higher sales than Act Age during this 3 volumes, but Act Age doesn't get a fat boost until volume 4 onward so we will wait and see.

 

[Halloween]

It's interesting that JJK is a bigger success, but CSM seems to be (at least to me) more popular. Or at least, discussed more.

 

[LuckyJim]

It's interesting that JJK is a bigger success, but CSM seems to be (at least to me) more popular. Or at least, discussed more.

Consistent early releases probably help. Manga Editors didn't give JJK much priority until official releases became free and easily accessed.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Jujutsu is by far the less popular non-newbie Jump title. I hope anime fixes that.

 

[tirakai]

I imagine discussions of Jujutsu are a lot higher on Japanese sites. It didn't get too much chance to gain steam in the west when a viz subscription was the only way to read it, and I feel like it's something that really needed that discussion since some of the chapter flow could be confusing early on which put some people off who'd otherwise probably quite like it.

Also, the character designs and relationships strike as something that'd draw in a sizeable fujoshi following and that sort of fanbase doesn't really happen as much in western countries, especially pre-anime.

 

[OtterBrigade]

It didn't get too much chance to gain steam in the west when a viz subscription was the only way to read it

You couldn't even read it with that. Viz did the 3 chapter "Jump Start" for it then ignored it until they switched models releasing chapters 4-6 and skipping to 40 (at the time most recent) and still 9 months later nothing for chapters 7-39. They licensed it for a physical release although I think volume 1 stops with chapter 7 so potentially there's a lot of people who just gave up after waiting a year for 1 or 2 chapters.

 

[Caiops]

For me
1) One Piece
2) Kingdom
3) Kimetsu no Yaiba
4) The Promised Neverland
5) 5-bun
6) MHA

 

[CrimsonEpitaph]

My list will be different


1)One Piece
2) Attack on Titan/BNHA
3)TPN/Kimetsu
4) Kingdom

5) Gotoubun


Edited my list a bit.

Rest

AoT has 0% of getting into top 2/3, it was 1.2M behind TPN and Kingdom in the half year ranking (and sixth overall), had only one volume since, and didn't have any backlog boosts so far. I won't be suprised if it'll stay at sixth, probably even fall further behind.
MHA had more vol 23 sales, and vol 24, and some backlog sales, but considering the distance between it and TPN/Kingdom (and their backlog sales), as well as KnY's incredible boost and even 5toubun's, odds are that it will not be above 5th place. The only way for it to reach top 2 is if it will (literally) sell an extra 350k copies a week from S4 boost.

Also:
Does anyone knowwhere I can find sales data for outside of Japan? I found the top 10 manga for 2018, but nothing more than that.

 

[Koni]

Lemme take a crack at this:

1) One Piece
2) Kingdom
3) The Promised Neverland
4) Kimetsu no Yaiba
5) My Hero Academia
6) Attack on Titan
7) The Quintessential Quintuplets
8) Haikyu!!
9) One Punch Man
10) Reincarnated As A Slime/Kaguya-sama: Love Is War

I think I can see Yaiba beating out HeroAca due to strong backlogs and no new HeroAca volume till December, though honestly I think it'll be a close race. Titan will reclaim it's position as Kodansha's best-selling title after Quints briefly took it, and if it can release another volume, it could compete with HeroAca and Yaiba, so 4 through 6 are likely interchangeable. I'm thinking Kingdom backlogs will also help it propel past TPN, though again, it'll probably be close. I thought a bit about which manga would be knocked out of the Top 10, and honestly, I'm not too sure. Slime sells more, but it's monthly. Kaguya sells less, but it's weekly. I'm giving the edge to Slime because I think it had better backlog sales. Kaguya, for all of it's praise and popularity the anime garnered, lost the backlog contest to TPN and Quints.

One Piece will retain it's #1 rank either way. I'm pretty confident about that. If not, I'll binge whatever beats it.

I could've done some more research, but I'm busy preparing for school and I wanted to get in on the Top 10 predictions. This is my opinion, though, and I'm probably going to be wrong.

 

[CrimsonEpitaph]

My bet
On top 5
1. OP
2. TpN
3&4. Kingdom/KnY

These 4 is guaranteed in top 4 5th position is tricky. There's like 4 series fighting on it.

Book rank
>MHA-4,294,038(vol 24 included)
>Slime-3,486,058(guess this already lose?)
>5bun-4,293,071(this ganna win if it release another volume)
>AoT-4M+ probably?(can't really find it. TOO MANY MANGA FOR KONDASHA!)

How do you search for cumulative series sales? I can only find individual volumes

 

[Tamil]

Curious why people say TPN will beat KnY? KnY looks like it'll beat TPN in series sales.

 

[CrimsonEpitaph]

Curious why people say TPN will beat KnY? KnY looks like it'll beat TPN in series sales.

KnY still has close to 2M sales to catch up to TPN

 

[Heiji]

 

[Rain Spectre]

Hmm...I actually have a bit of a theory on when exactly WNL ends, down to the month.