Him not being as strong as Gildarts currently, doesn’t mean he was never comparable. What kind of logic is that? An Laxus has consistently been stated to be comparable since his return in Tenrou. Gildarts being slightly stronger wouldn’t affect him being on the same tier. An in turn wouldn’t be any kind of evidence that Jura wouldn’t be a good opponent. It’s not like the Master hadn’t just seen Gildarts before the tournament and making the comparison.
Dude, Makarov compared him to Gildarts. An I’m as interested in taking your opinion over Makarov’s as I am believing Ajeel’s boast over August assertion that Laxus attack would have killed him. Your acting like Laxus isn’t the only FT member that’s been stated to be a soldier of Gildarts caliber.
Dude, Makarov compared him to Gildarts. An I’m as interested in taking your opinion over Makarov’s as I am believing Ajeel’s boast over August assertion that Laxus attack would have killed him. Your acting like Laxus isn’t the only FT member that’s been stated to be a soldier of Gildarts caliber.
Laxus has been on Gildarts tier since Tenrou bro. Gildarts is wiser, better hax, and should still have the edge in pure power, but that’s the level Laxus has been operating on this entire time.
Laxus has been on Gildarts tier since Tenrou bro. Gildarts is wiser, better hax, and should still have the edge in pure power, but that’s the level Laxus has been operating on this entire time.
His DF should be above Laxus considering he completely blew away Zeref's body while using his complete power,Zeref was able to withstand Igneel Natsu's attacks.
His DF should be above Laxus considering he completely blew away Zeref's body while using his complete power,Zeref was able to withstand Igneel Natsu's attacks.
DF stacked with FDKM yeah. Being as he had to use FDKM to one-shot a mid tier Spriggan, and Laxus did it in base with a basic lightning spell, and not DS magic. DF Natsu should be comparable to Full Power Laxus. Much like how Nero was able to face off with him still.
DF>laxus yes but the main problem is he cant maintain for too long he can only get a couple hits. Laxus wouldn’t just stand there 2. DF would be above gildartz too gildartz and laxus isn’t that far apart from each other
The version of natsu that fought against zeref that one would vaporize gildarts just with a single finger flick
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Well I would like to bring some topics like that of Neo Eclipse, well with this attack zeref was going to ERASE AN ENTIRE 400-500 YEAR TIMELINE from existence which is clearly at least Planet level attack just by assuming but by calcs it is a LARGE STAR LEVEL+ technique, but yes a normal FH zeref that fought natsu was never even near to planet level, he was at best large continent level at that time only the Neo Eclipse attack was Large star level+ same goes with acnologia he with space between time absorbed would have also been in the Moon level to planet level but if he also had the access to Neo Eclipse then that would also be the same Large star level+ technique. Don't confuse yourselves that Savage POF Flames natsu was on this level, he was just at multi continent level.
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Next I would like to bring up about Aldoron the wood dragon and I'll go with his most accepted size I. E a small country sized dragon, so with that gigantic body each of his footsteps if he takes at a speed of 3.5 km per second which is suitable for his size then each of his footstep will have continent level of force and if we say his speed is as much as that of other dragons like that of Igneel, metalicanna, ignia and merphobia and grandneey etc who all are sub relativistic then each footstep of this dragon will Weild Planet level force or energy values....... Meaning we have a very casual continent level (if he's that slow) to casual planet level Aldoron (if he's as fast as those dragons mentioned above).
Well the aldron case I made a hypothetical case that if he's as fast other dragons so given his size if he would be moving that fast he would be easily planetary no doubt in that but currently he is continent level at least.
Honestly, and this would be just my perfect version. If they are forced to team up against Laxus, I would want him to use FL. An it looks like it failed....and then after the fight concludes we see everybody else has been healed by FL.
One shoots why? Just because it defeated two enchanted swords? LOL Would it have the power to defeat someone like Kagura?
Technically, Kagura can even escape from it by changing the gravity in herself and ''fly'' away from the attack in the air.
I don't if Macro with Mirajane would work so well as it was with Sayla.
Minerva was capable of fighting a long battle with Wahl- Historia (who was with his eye open and using his magic). She even was able to put him underground and he vanished when was lied on the floor ( however Minerva didn't know if she has defeated him or if he just vanished because of Neinhart's defeat). This put her at a similar level with Mirajane of action in the last arc (Mirajane defeated two subordinates with all her magic power and fought a Spriggan who wasn't even with open eyes and using magic), I can't see why Minerva is trash and Mirajane is strong, lol. When was the last time that Mirajane fights a strong opponent and fight well without being blitz by him or her like what happens with Sayla etherious? I can say, at least, that Minerva fought Erza for a time in the Tartaros arc.
No it doesn’t put her on a similar level. We don’t know in canon whether she actually defeated Historia Wahl or not. We could say that Neinhart being defeated ended the fight. That’s not impressive. It’s inconclusive. And that’s like the only feat Minerva has in the final arc.
Mirajane one shot Juliet and Heine who scale to Minerva and Kagura. Mira beat an assassin Spriggan in h2h whilst having her magic depleted. That shits on everything Minerva and Kagura have shown us recently.
One shoots why? Just because it defeated two enchanted swords? LOL Would it have the power to defeat someone like Kagura?
Technically, Kagura can even escape from it by changing the gravity in herself and ''fly'' away from the attack in the ar.
I don't if Macro with Mirajane would work so well as it was with Sayla.
Those two enchanted swords were created by the strongest woman ever, they one shot Fairytail fodder and Mirajane, an S class wizard from Fairytail, states that she UNDERESTIMATED them. I have no idea why people still try to downplay Juliet and Heine.
The power to defeat someone like Kagura? Kagura is fodder who hasn’t had a good feat since the GMG which was YEARS ago lol. She embarrassed herself throughout the entirety of the final arc and never defeated anyone.
Oh, Kagura can fly??? Like how Mira can??
Macro is Macro. It would work on Kagura if it worked on Erza and Minerva in Tartaros. And Mira has obviously been practicing with her new forms. Also when Mira used Macro on the fodder soldiers, Gray was freaking shocked and impressed by Mira one shotting so many soldiers at once with ease.
Mirajane is also fast. She moved so fast that juliet and Heine couldn’t react to her moving and Juliet and Heine are easily Kagura level. She dodged an explosion from Asuma at close range. She blitzed Jenny. Mirajane was clearly blocking Seilah’s attacks, not dodging them. Etherious Seilah is a monster so of course Mira would get blitzed by her. Oh yeah, Mira now has Etherious Seilah so she can blitz Kagura in the same way. So what if Kagura uses a sword???? Why do you think that means anything lol? Mira can shoot nukes and punch. What’s your point?
Mira has enough magical power to hanger the atmosphere around her. She killed Juliet and Heine in one hit who she admitted were strong and gay she overestimated. She defeated a Spriggan in h2h whilst she was weakened. That shits on all of Kagura’s feats from GMG which happened YEARS ago. Kagura’s recent feats are awful. She got fodderized by both Dimaria and Larcade and has been disappointing throughout.
We also literally saw Mira in her weakest form tank a SDM nuke that one shot the area. She can handle Kagura fine who has no recent power feats and whose best attack was stopped by fingers.
Mirajane did that with Mirajane Alegria, a form that consumes a lot of power and that she can keep for a very short time. Would she use it again Kagura? LOL
If she uses and was unable do defeated the Mermaid she would stay helpless against the opponent. And even with this form, there's nothing proved that she would blitz someone fast as Kagura. So bad for you!
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Larcade's hand is able to open the flank of his opponents with a slap. He is said to be stronger than all the others Spriggans besides August and Irene, there's nothing wrong with him being able to stop Kagura with his fingers. Mirajane would have fought better when she barely could hand Heyne and Juliet, really? LOL
No it doesn’t put her on a similar level. We don’t know in canon whether she actually defeated Historia Wahl or not. We could say that Neinhart being defeated ended the fight. That’s not impressive. It’s inconclusive. And that’s like the only feat Minerva has in the final arc.
Mirajane one shot Juliet and Heine who scale to Minerva and Kagura. Mira beat an assassin Spriggan in h2h whilst having her magic depleted. That shits on everything Minerva and Kagura have shown us recently.
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Those two enchanted swords were created by the strongest woman ever, they one shot Fairytail fodder and Mirajane, an S class wizard from Fairytail, states that she UNDERESTIMATED them. I have no idea why people still try to downplay Juliet and Heine.
The power to defeat someone like Kagura? Kagura is fodder who hasn’t had a good feat since the GMG which was YEARS ago lol. She embarrassed herself throughout the entirety of the final arc and never defeated anyone.
Oh, Kagura can fly??? Like how Mira can??
Macro is Macro. It would work on Kagura if it worked on Erza and Minerva in Tartaros. And Mira has obviously been practicing with her new forms. Also when Mira used Macro on the fodder soldiers, Gray was freaking shocked and impressed by Mira one shotting so many soldiers at once with ease.
They One-shot Fairy Tail fodder. Oh really? This is an argument? lol
People downplay them because they don't have good feats and they even have good magic like Marin.
Mirajane struggle against them is just something bad for Mirajane than something that proves their strength. It just indicates that Mirajane couldn't do any better than Kagura in a fight with a Spriggan like Larcade. And, by comparing Kagura and Mirajane with their feats, Kagura is superior and has advantages in a fight with Mirajane Strauss.
Macro with Mira has shown incapable of even work in all the minions that were in Magnolia. She never used it again.
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Mirajane can't fly in the Alegria form. The ''fly'' is for escape the Alegria attack.
Mirajane did that with Mirajane Alegria, a form that consumes a lot of power and that she can keep for a very short time. Would she use it again Kagura? LOL
If she uses and was unable do defeated the Mermaid she would stay helpless against the opponent. And even with this form, there's nothing proved that she would blitz someone fast as Kagura. So bad for you!
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Larcade's hand is able to open the flank of his opponents with a slap. He is said to be stronger than all the others Spriggans besides August and Irene, there's nothing wrong with him being able to stop Kagura with his fingers. Mirajane would have fought better when she barely could hand Heyne and Juliet? LOL
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They One-shot Fairy Tail fodder. Oh really? This is an argument? lol
People downplay them because they don't have good feats and they even have good magic like Marin.
Mirajane struggle against them is just something bad for Mirajane than something that proves their strength. It just indicates that Mirajane couldn't do any better in a fight with a Spriggan like Larcade.
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Mirajane can't fly in Alegria form. The ''fly'' is for escape the Alegria attack.
She wouldn’t need it against Kagura. She used it against Juliet and Heine because it was two against one and she admits she underestimated them so she got serious. Mira knows Kagura’s power level so she’d fight appropriately. There’s no reason for her to use her trump against Kagura in the beginning.
Juliet and Heine have good feats lol. Fighting on par with Mira and having Mira admit that they’re strong is a good feat. One shotting Jet and Droy and other Fairytail members clearly show that they’re not weak. What are you talking about?
Why is it bad for Mira to struggle 2vs1 in a fight with powerful opponents? I don’t get it.
Also, Alegria has wings. Check the manga panel again, it looks like she’s using her wings to increase her speed whilst blitzing Juliet and Heine.
Macro obviously has a a limit. It’s either the radius or the number of people that is the limit. That’s the only logical explanation as to why some fodder soldiers were one shotted and the others were perfectly fine. Macro would work fine in a one vs one against Kagura.