Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2019] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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What I would vote if I lived in Japan:
1. Dr. Stone
2. Neverland
3. TSS
This would be a cool thing to do each week! I will go with

1. Black Clover
2. Yozakura-san Chi no Daisakusen
3. Chainsaw Man

Honorable mentions: Samurai 8 and Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
 

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Has there been any update with Shoseki?
 

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This discussion has made me realize that despite Jump being allegedly in an 'edgy' phase, most of the current MC's are super-nice goody two-shoes sweet cinnamon rolls.
 

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This discussion has made me realize that despite Jump being allegedly in an 'edgy' phase, most of the current MC's are super-nice goody two-shoes sweet cinnamon rolls.
That's kind of the point? In spite of the despair which the characters are faced with, it's the protagonists own wills which allow them to move forwards towards the future.

Humane madness, I say.
 

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Personally i'm not really surprised by Emma having just 2 votes, since the whole "i want to be friends with demons and make everybody live together!" the character got almost totally destroyed for me and made me realise how incredibly generic she is, she's just 100% your typical Jump main character but in a "Game of Thrones" world and story style alongside with actual interesting main characters like Ray and Norman.

Overall i don't have any kind of hate for any of the main characters but i don't see anything really original or "sooo" refreshing in Deku, he's as typical as everybody else, now Denji, this is one that you can call "refreshing" on Shonen Jump.

I gotta say, for the most part, we have a very diverse range of opinions when it comes to MC favorites.

I expected everyone to get at least one vote, but Yuuna's MC not getting even one is pretty surprising.
I voted now and i really think Kogarashi is one of the best harem main characters ever, because he is one of the few that actually deserves to have a harem and the one that you can see why the girls fall in love with, different that many others that just have a girl magnet inside them kkkk, he's a really likeable protagonist.
 
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Senku and Emma are both super smart, but their debuts were both a good 2+ years after MHA started. It might be worth arguing that Deku helped WSJ realize that an intelligent and/or nerdy protagonist could be likeable to a wide audience, and that may have partially paved the way for characters like Senku and Emma to be protagonists instead of just side characters.
Isn’t Deku consistently in second place in character polls, behind Bakugou? Neverland and Stone are not traditional battle shounen so it’s not surprising that their main characters are different from the norm. In fact, the premises of those two series absolutely require intelligent MCs
 

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Isn’t Deku consistently in second place in character polls, behind Bakugou? Neverland and Stone are not traditional battle shounen so it’s not surprising that their main characters are different from the norm. In fact, the premises of those two series absolutely require intelligent MCs
Behind Todoroki too
 

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You post this a lot. Is that meant to be like a laugh, or are you repeatedly posting a shortened okay?
lol again? kkkk it's a small laugh, i think that it's used most by brazilians.
 

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So like wwww for the Japaneses?
 

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Yes.
Apparently, kkkk is also internet laughter in Korean. TIL, only knew about Brazilians so far.
 

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I mean, Senku is actually smart, not just smart for an MC. I'd argue that Emma is also smarter than Deku.

I get the overall point, though.
I put Emma's intelligence in question since the decisions she made that led to all the conflict in this arc, if you know what I mean. Basically, I think Norman is right.
 
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I put Emma's intelligence since the decisions she made that led to all the conflict in this arc, if you know what I mean. Basically, I think Norman is right.
...You realize Norman is committing genocide, right?

BTW, can someone clarify if Issues 42 and 43 come out together or no? Because I'm a bit confused there.
 

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Deku has obviously got a lot of common battle shonen protagonist archetypes going on ; he's aggressively empathetic, self-sacrificing to a fault, and every character he interacts with finds themselves drawn to him. Nearly all the protags of the "big" shonen mangas have these traits. Luffy, Naruto, Gon.

The big thing that makes Deku feel different? He's smart.

90% of shonen protagonists, particularly the most popular ones, are impulsive dumbasses. Incredibly likeable impulsive dumbasses, but Luffy/Naruto/Gon are all kind of stupid and act on instinct. They're cunning, sure, and can figure out clever ways to win a fight, but they are absolutely not the puzzle solvers of the group. Deku, on the other hand, is incredibly analytical and tackles every challenge with strategy and observation. In fact, one of his weaknesses is that he'll often overthink a situation and be unable to react in time. It might feel like a small discrepancy, but it makes a lot of big battles and sequences play out very differently than they would in One Piece or Naruto.

His interactions with the rest of the cast also feel unique because his personality is such a contrast from those other characters. Instead of being loud, brash, and having an inflated sense of self-importance, Deku is pretty much the opposite. He's meek, overly polite, and has some big self-esteem issues that he wears on his sleeve (instead of big self esteem issues that he constantly represses, like everyone else). So there's a lot about Deku that's familiar, but the things about him that are new/uncommon to a protagonist in the genre make him feel really refreshing. I like him a lot.
He mostly resembles osamu & tsuna, I wouldnt say hes unique because he isnt the first "introvert/polite guy" in shonen thrope. it's just that we dont see it that often cuz it was overshadowed by the typical dumbass loud mc thropes
 

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Personally i'm not really surprised by Emma having just 2 votes, since the whole "i want to be friends with demons and make everybody live together!" the character got almost totally destroyed for me and made me realise how incredibly generic she is, she's just 100% your typical Jump main character but in a "Game of Thrones" world and story style alongside with actual interesting main characters like Ray and Norman.
Really? Emma standing up against Norman's plan is what made the character for me.

And the series.
 

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...You realize Norman is committing genocide, right?

BTW, can someone clarify if Issues 42 and 43 come out together or no? Because I'm a bit confused there.
No. Mankinchi just meant that they're both going to be released early on Saturday, not the same Saturday.
 

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He mostly resembles osamu & tsuna, I wouldnt say hes unique because he isnt the first "introvert/polite guy" in shonen thrope. it's just that we dont see it that often cuz it was overshadowed by the typical dumbass loud mc thropes
Emma is meant to be a Mary sue character even right from the beginning, even tho I had Hope's she would be different. After how the whole damn story showed since the beginning on the cruelty humans face..., I just CANT feel pity for demons. Let alone allowing Emma saying "i dont wanna kill demons". Prob also so that she wouldnt resemble gon when she had her random psycho expressions when they were living in the farm
 
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