Well they were hurting Natsu and again he pinned him in brute strength therefore they are not pathetic as the force behind the whip attacks would equal his physical power. Lol, that is like saying 7DS arm punch or SF punch is pathetic bcs they were smaller scaled attacks then what we have previously seen. Even his final punch against Merc wasn't a visual spectacle.
Irrelevant Those things damaged Merc and Destroyed acno and Zeref. Meanwhile Jacob whip didn't do any damage to Lucy. You can't compare poor attack power to Natsu.
Not as pathetic as Jacob attack which failed to decent damage on lucy. Attacks you mentioned dropped most power beings in FT verse. So there is nothing to argue about jacob attacks and natsu's
I agree with you, but his technique required he clap his hands, seeing as he had issues with obscene things closing his eyes and fighting at the same time he didn’t really have the option to do that
He doesn't need his eyes to clap his hands he can do it by closing it as well. Another fanfiction that you made up yourself to make Mira's feats look good.
World of god is absolute over your opinions as they are shown as well, and it doesn’t matter when they are on the same level as each other, Natsu struggled most of the fight and admitted he is strong, simple as that. But he needs both hands to use the technique, he cannot use them when he is fighting, that is the truth, stop making up fanfics to downplay. He staggered when he was pinned down twice, he was trying to get Jacob to loosen his grip on him, he did so by tricking him, if he could get out he would have done so by now.
World of God irrelevant if he doesn't provide feats for his characters. He can claim whatever nonsense but it means nothing feats > anything. Show me canon pic of Natsu struggling. He never bothered to even use his flames. Him struggling his something in your mind and another cheap fanfic you came up with.
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Your cheap fanfics can't be scored. They are are nothing but pure gold comedy.
That doesn’t really make any sense can Laxus only started getting afflicted after his transformation, even then it was one sided on his part. He was not scared, he just concluded his current persona would allow enemies to exploit. He even stated that despite being infected by MBP, he operates at top condition
Bro he analyzes laxus he say this guy isn’t in top condition he isn’t at 100% one sided? No it wasn’t wall was able to go toe to toe with a sick Laxus. Laxus condidtion got worse during the fight just because he “looked ok” doesn’t mean he was. Exactly u just prove my point eventually his enemies will eventually exploit it. Laxus is lighting DS therefore at some point he wouldnt able to keep taking his attacks.
Bro he analyzes laxus he say this guy isn’t in top condition he isn’t at 100% one sided? No it wasn’t wall was able to go toe to toe with a sick Laxus. Laxus condidtion got worse and the fight continue just because he “looked ok” doesn’t mean he was. Exactly u just prove my point eventually his enemies will eventually exploit it. Laxus is lighting DS therefore at some point he wouldnt able to keep taking his attacks.
Wall literally stated in the official translation that despite being infected by MBP, that he still functions as top class FT member. And earlier on, Laxus stated that it only happens at random, those attacks he gets from the MBP. Laxus would have to use techniques that are not exclusively as lightning
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Wall talks about how he still functions at top class.
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It only really happens from time to time, he still operates at top capacity when it doesn’t
Read the scan, it literally says he has miscalculated his aim.
The fireball nicked Laxus still even after he "dodged" it, if he had aimed for a body shot Lacus would've been toast hence the error in aim. Not only that but in the video his attacks goes all the way into the clouds before exploding like wth? Wall was hitting Laxus before the MBPs effected him. He landed punches on Laxus before even going assualt mode. No, you can see Wall was the one doing that. Laxus hits didn't even launch him across the city...
@Axiomus Several attacks prior to x792 that are all better than or equal to that punch Wall did on a visual level...
So why the heck do you think that punch was so impressive?
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Wendy's Sky Dragon's roar was visually more impressive than Wall's punch...and even Natsu Demolishing Fist he used on Madmole and the one he used on fodder in prior pages to the roar...
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It only really happens from time to time, he still operates at top capacity when it doesn’t
“yes till function at top class” that doesn’t mean he is at 100% mbp till affects him just that its.worse and worse as time passes. But this time it goes to the point he about to die
With the latest chapter, we have the perfect opportunity to settle this debate once and for all.
If Mirajane doesn't oneshot Madmole with the first Satan Soul punch she uses on him, then Madmole has better durability than Jacob. Same thing applies if she manages to hit Skullion with a clean shot and doesn't oneshot him. We saw that Madmole has better durability than Skullion when Natsu hit him after Wendy made him tangible. Mirajane is completely serious now, so there should be no excuse.
Obviously if the dragon eaters beat Mirajane and Elfman, they're stronger than Jacob and Elfman. If Mirajane and/or Elfman can't score a knockdown on Madmole and force Skullion to consider a retreat, they're weaker than Natsu.
you saw that nuke earlier? where he casually waved his hand, no name technique, just waved his hand and obliterated the region? the one where he never displayed that level of power? that means he doesn't get weakened until those random attacks start, Wall never said that those MBP weakened his condition.
Axiomus, you are forgetting that Mira never goes all out when there are people around, that is what she stated in GMG. so all those times we have not seen her get serious when there are people present besides her own opponents.
and besides with what happened in latest chapter, I can tell it will be a comedy fight.
Oh my...The fight hasn't even begun and already the excuses are rolling in. The only fight where that statement applies is the "fight" against Jenny, and Jenny is as fodder as they come. We've already seen plenty of examples where Mirajane went all out despite there being people around her. Mirajane obviously went all out for Azuma and Seilah even though Lisanna was there. These were fights where Mirajane doesn't have the luxury of holding back. Besides, she's brainwashed and pissed off right now.
not excuses, factual statements from Mira herself, you just don't want to believe. No, that applies in a when she is alone when no one watches her. She was not all out against Azuma as she was weakened before hand, she was not a full power as she use to. That does not prove anything as she did not even use her casual nukes that were visible from within the city. Those fights are where they are she was handicapped or where people were around and was not looking serious. Yet the real lisanna was alive and she would know it, she gets upset over a fake, Mira had her power restored overtime which Jacob had given her a handicap
not excuses, factual statements from Mira herself, you just don't want to believe. No, that applies in a when she is alone when no one watches her. She was not all out against Azuma as she was weakened before hand, she was not a full power as she use to. That does not prove anything as she did not even use her casual nukes that were visible from within the city. Those fights are where they are she was handicapped or where people were around and was not looking serious. Yet the real lisanna was alive and she would know it, she gets upset over a fake, Mira had her power restored overtime which Jacob had given her a handicap
The only fight where Mirajane has never gone all out is the GMG battle with Jenny. Otherwise, she was either alone or fighting with something at stake and pushed to her limits.
Mirajane absolutely went all out with Azuma. She wasn't weakened. The only fight she had prior was against Elfman and Evergreen, and they only "beat" her by pretending that Evergreen was going to have an ugly baby. Mirajane still had most of her magic and wasn't injured. She did use her nukes against Azuma. Mirajane's nukes have never been that huge. Mirajane and Freed were fighting within the city. The explosion spanned the length between her and the Freed, and there was only a couple of meters between them. The cloud of dust that it kicked up was no bigger than building level. By all rights, it was just a building level attack. Not that any of this matters, because Mirajane never nuked Jacob. Madmole or Skullion only have to tank a punch to be considered above Jacob.
Look, the chapter literally says that Mirajane is angry. She is brainwashed and she is mad. There's no reason for her to be holding back here.
including most of the other fights where she has not gone all out, that is what she stated herself, that would include, her battle with the executioner, Irene's subordinates, and for most of the fight with Jacob. She was weakened as she used her magic to fight before with Elfman and Evergreen, and she stated that she does not have enough magic power to fight which is strange as she does last longer than that, she even stated that it is magic that she cannot use over and over, plus she just started fighting after years of being passive so she is obviously out of shape which Cana stated since Phantom. That nuke against Azuma was smaller than the one she used against Freed which is large enough to be seen inside town from the outskirts.
I did the calculation for it, comparing size and distance from various points with pixel scaling, and the explosion is considered 286.94 tons of TNT or "Multi-City Block" and the distance is not a couple meters between the two, it was 16.73 meters at the initial explosion.
I did the calculation for it, comparing size and distance from various points with pixel scaling, and the explosion is considered 286.94 tons of TNT or "Multi-City Block" and the distance is not a couple meters between the two, it was 16.73 meters at the initial explosion.
You calculations are nothing but bs just like your cheap fanfics no need believe in your nonsense. You even try to calculate time through manga panels to suit your bs logic. What was shown was nothing more than building level damage. Can you show me a legit manga panel that supports your statements without bringing your bs logic here. Only very few believe in your cheap fanfics.
I do not appreciate your language sir, and they objective proof are from the manga itself, as oppose to pure random assumptions which are truly baseless. time is relative even in the manga, which only differs if there is actual proof of time duration from one point or another in the story.
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read through this and next chapter, you can see Mira and Freed are from the outskirts of town and the explosion can be seen from within town.
Mirajane went all out against Kamika. That was the whole point of her speech. She also went all out against Juliet and Heine. Literally to the point of exhaustion. She also went all out against Jacob. Mirajane never stated that she does not have enough magic power to fight against Azuma. She ended up using Satan Soul anyways. Besides, if she ran out of magic fighting Elfman and Evergreen, that alone says a lot. That just means that whatever power Mirajane used in that nuke....wasn't that strong.
Many people would consider 17 meters a couple of meters. It's an incredibly short distance. That explosion is the size of a building.
The point of that speech as that she has her own quarks of how she does things, she does things her way, yes she did, she clearly stated when she went over to her sister to protect her as she does not have enough power to beat him, and before that her magic is not something to be used over and over, that nuke was not the same as what she used before though in anime, even in Manga, that would mean her power was indeed weakened, for obvious reasons
definition of couple means two of something, particularly when they are together, not something 17 is qualified for, couple meaning "indefinite number" is another thing, which is informal. and the explosion is far larger from the next page as you cannot see Mira or Freed.
This is the actual attack that Mirajane used against Freed. It's not even that large by pre-timeskip standards. You even pixel scaled it. It's 17 meters. 17 meters is literally 2 seconds of running. Compare that to one of Natsu's regular punches, which creates an explosion that is unmistakably larger than 100 meters. The circumference of a football field can approach 800 meters. How large do you think that themepark was?
But size isn't everything. How the attacks stack up in the actual damage they do is what's important. Here's what happens when Mirajane tried desperately to blast Azuma. He completely blocks her attack, and then Mirajane herself admits that he is too strong and that she can only maybe defeat him if she uses all of her magic power. She then decides not to risk it Even if you say she was weakened, Mirajane was only weakened because she fought Elfman and Evergreen earlier. Compare this to how casually Natsu can oneshot Bluenote, who is the ace of Grimoire Heart and much stronger than Azuma. Natsu would oneshot every opponent Mirajane has ever fought before the timeskip (with the exception of any dragons) all at once with this roar.
Or better yet, compare how easily Gray is able to take down the post-timeskip version of Freed (and then some).
Anybody that can tank these attacks from Natsu and Gray can tank the nuke Mirajane used on Freed, and Madmole has tanked much better attacks Natsu's roar or Gray's punches. Madmole tanked multiple FDK spells. Skullion has tanked Gray's best devil slaying attacks, and Madmole has better durability than Skullion. There's no reason to even entertain the idea that Jacob has better durability than Madmole with their current feats. It's just endless cycles of hype keeping Jacob relevant. The bottom line here is that Mirajane was able to knock Jacob out with a single punch in base Satan Soul when she was already exhausted of most of her magic power. If she doesn't defeat Skullion or Madmole with the same ease, there's no way Jacob has better durability than Madmole.
