Because it wouldn't really help anyone at this point, it's still just a hunch I had, so there's no real argument I could provide. And I don't really want to say who I might suspect besides gnut yet, at least as long as I don't have some solid arguments.
I'm not asking you to motivate the choice, I'm asking you to put on the record who you targeted. Now that you already used your stand, and that player survived, there's merit in trying to figure out how that situation came to be. To prevent you from consolidating a claim later. There's no reason whatsoever to hold back, especially now that our lead on gnut might be fizzling out
Well Vandred said Doctors are possible, and that's how I understood it too. Other members can still be protected is what I assume, otherwise a stand would hit no matter what, which would make it almost too OP.
Also realized that Seraph would be dead had he protected my target, so my earlier comment was unnecessary lol.
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Because it wouldn't really help anyone at this point, it's still just a hunch I had, so there's no real argument I could provide. And I don't really want to say who I might suspect besides gnut yet, at least as long as I don't have some solid arguments.
My understanding is that roles do not affect stands powers.
Also, you don't want to share your suspect without solid argument D3 , but you want to kill him N1 ?
Yeah it is forced because I wanted to send a message to my associates. Unfortunately I missed a capital "I" in my bait. I should get better at baiting. I'm pretty bad at baiting.
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Games like these I really miss Erin and her cute lists.
It's so easy to let people get out of sight.
So Suspect #1 is Gnut for Daws having targeted him and still getting killed which indicates that Gnut is mafia and therefore could not be hidden behind. We also "know" that no abilities were used on Daws if we are to trust those claims. So he can not have been blocked or otherwise interfered with.
Before putting anyone on the chopping block are there other scenarios how a Hider could have been killed even though he chose someone to hide behind?
Elucidating. Since doctor is now on the table, there shouldn't be any reason for Nii to not reveal who he targeted. If a doc couldn't block, maybe the target was sitting on valuable self protection Nii wouldn't want to divulge, but since any number of external protection could have been used, I think it should be fine
Well okay Panda, my target was Vandred. I think if it really was a stand doctor, he can come out and prove my claim. My guess is it might have been Spirit, but he's probably the sole dude who shouldn't outright admit it bc he claimed he has the same role and stand lol.
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Not sure why you're on my case so strongly shinobi, all I've been doing is suspecting gnut since Day 2 and sticked with that, because he really gave me no reason to trust him since then
Well okay Panda, my target was Vandred. I think if it really was a stand doctor, he can come out and prove my claim. My guess is it might have been Spirit, but he's probably the sole dude who shouldn't outright admit it bc he claimed he has the same role and stand lol.
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Not sure why you're on my case so strongly shinobi, all I've been doing is suspecting gnut since Day 2 and sticked with that, because he really gave me no reason to trust him since then
Why did you want to kill Vandred? XD
No man, the gnut stuff is there ofc, I generally don't trust bandwagons coz it benefits mafia more than town from what I saw, you didn't wait for him to say anything today did you? and that kill thing didn't sit well with me, but let's see what Vand or docs or someone has to say
Why did you want to kill Vandred? XD
No man, the gnut stuff is there ofc, I generally don't trust bandwagons coz it benefits mafia more than town from what I saw, you didn't wait for him to say anything today did you? and that kill thing didn't sit well with me, but let's see what Vand or docs or someone has to say
Because I found his behavior suspicious obviously. Accusing me of a bad action isn't helping anyone, ofc it was a bit of a gamble but I was willing to take that risk. If he had died, we might have a big lead who joined his votes and arguments and who didn't, that would have been helpful in any case. Him not dying sadly made the whole thing useless, but tough luck I guess =/
And I didn't wait for gnut bc it took him what, 8 hours into the dayphase without saying anything? He made like 2 or 3 posts in the last 24 hours, and ignored all questions coming at him, and not just from me. If that isn't suspicious I dunno, but it seems he's successful bc the focus is slowly shifting elsewhere
@Belserion can you tell us a bit more about your role or stand? That sort of info we already got on the first day, I think it's about time we all started revealing a bit more, or we'll never learn who might be mafia.
I agree with everyone revealing a bit more considering there are some who haven't even said if their role /stand is active or passive. I prefer not to reveal completely yet but when I said my stand is passive and ironic I meant that while my role benefits everyone else except me, my stand benefits only me.
Because I found his behavior suspicious obviously. Accusing me of a bad action isn't helping anyone, ofc it was a bit of a gamble but I was willing to take that risk. If he had died, we might have a big lead who joined his votes and arguments and who didn't, that would have been helpful in any case. Him not dying sadly made the whole thing useless, but tough luck I guess =/
And I didn't wait for gnut bc it took him what, 8 hours into the dayphase without saying anything? He made like 2 or 3 posts in the last 24 hours, and ignored all questions coming at him, and not just from me. If that isn't suspicious I dunno, but it seems he's successful bc the focus is slowly shifting elsewhere
Admittedly gnut is afk so far. I don't defend gnut btw, just to be clear on this.
I want to ask you what did you find so suspicious in Vandred d1 that you took it upon yourself to kill him N1, I'm considering the possibility if this is the failed mafia kill from N1? but I will stop here now. I already pointed out what I found odd to me, and we also have others involved in this (Vand/docs/.. ) to consider what they have to say about this kill as well.
No, because killing Lambu during early Day 1 didn't help anyone. Learning Vandreds role by day 3 would have given us a lead no matter what though, because it would make certain people either look more or less suspicious, like who voted for the same guy/girl as Van during Day 1 and Day 2. I admit that it ofc was a risk, but it's not as bad as you make it sound.
To further clarify if it‘s not described enough in the OP, Stands work exactly the same as the same role normally would. Stands follow the rules and interactions of the role they are, with the exceptions as said in the OP with being unblockable, unredirectable, untraceable and unloseable.
For example an Apprentice Stand can‘t be blocked, but if the teacher is blocked the Stand still wouldn‘t work due to how Apprentice works.
Also, I‘ll be missing for a lot of time til ~1 hour before the day end, so with the incoming votes anyone can edit or track the votes themselves if needed to keep an overview until I count them.
It's 12AM here already, so I'll have to leave soon sadly =/ But I still think it's a good idea to share thoughts about other people here (at least the few who are somewhat active...). Personally I find Cres posts slightly confusing, but they do sound earnest Can't really say anything about Desin besides the weird code thing, but not sure if that amounts to much.