Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Sunday (Shogakukan) - Part 2 (2015 - 2021)

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Detective Conan: Zero's Tea Time didn't release a chapter since September 25 and only released 1 chapter since July 31. That and the fact that it didn't release alongside Conan volume or movie did accelerate the decline, I guess.

Major 2nd could be because of hiatus, but I feel like it would've done the same even without hiatus, the only difference is the volume that did these numbers would've been 20th one instead of 17th.

Komi-san dropped a little (100k in 11 days to 98k in 14 days), but it's not that serious.

v07 - 2017/12 - 117,214 (14d)
v09 - 2018/06 - 121,772 (14d)
v12 - 2019/03 - 119,379 (14d)
v15 - 2019/11 - 98,113 (14d)

Looking at this, the decline is a little bit more serious than I though. Well, It was a matter of time before it's started to decline.. I still can't believe this series didn't get an anime for almost four years. That's a little bit too late for a weekly slice of life/romance series. A good anime can still make a difference, but I feel like it lost its chance of truly taking off like Takagi-san, etc.
 

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Detective Conan: Zero's Tea Time didn't release a chapter since September 25 and only released 1 chapter since July 31. That and the fact that it didn't release alongside Conan volume or movie did accelerate the decline, I guess.

Major 2nd could be because of hiatus, but I feel like it would've done the same even without hiatus, the only difference is the volume that did these numbers would've been 20th one instead of 17th.

Komi-san dropped a little (100k in 11 days to 98k in 14 days), but it's not that serious.

v07 - 2017/12 - 117,214 (14d)
v09 - 2018/06 - 121,772 (14d)
v12 - 2019/03 - 119,379 (14d)
v15 - 2019/11 - 98,113 (14d)

Looking at this, the decline is a little bit more serious than I though. Well, It was a matter of time before it's started to decline.. I still can't believe this series didn't get an anime for almost four years. That's a little bit too late for a weekly slice of life/romance series. A good anime can still make a difference, but I feel like it lost its chance of truly taking off like Takagi-san, etc.
Yeah, I really don't understand what Shogukukan has been thinking with their series. I'm not saying Amano would've become a huge hit, but an anime definitely would've made it so its current sales would be much better than what they are now. Same with Komi-san, and even though I don't read Be Blues, it's insane it has been running for as long as it has without an adaptation. Thankfully Maoujou is finally getting one, but I hope they don't wait too long for Tonikaku and Yofukashi no Uta (although it is still very new) to get one
 

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The last talkback of the year. I'd really like to thank everyone for sticking with me (and Sunday) through 2019. Hopefully 2020 sees more success (and anime, but I know it's not easy) for the magazine.
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It seems like some of Sunday series got a drastic drop in sales lately. I was surprised to see that Komi-san sadly fell from Oricon charts before achieving 100.000 sales for the first time in 2-3 years. Thankfully Komi was short on the days so it's not that dramatic, at least compared to Major and Zero's Tea Time.

Komi-san #14 - 117.085 (17 days)
Komi-san #15 - 98.113 (14 days)

Major 2nd #16 - 150.733 (17 days)
Major 2nd #17 - 109.890 (17 days)

Detective Conan Zero's Tea Time #3 - 321.006 (33 days) it only needed 5 days to sell 185.864 copies
Detective Conan Zero's Tea Time #4 - 174.415 (14 days)
Yikes, I knew ZTT had peaked but for it to have actually started to decline...that's a little surprising. Though I agree the time between volumes and release days are a factor I feel like it's also a thing where you can only have nothing happening for so long before people want a little more out of the series. Hopefully Wild Police story answers that call.
 

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this series deserved so much more, so much mooooooore

Ah, I thought someone else would have posted this so I didn't bother. Yeah my eyes bulged out of my head when I saw this --it's why I reported it separately from the rest of the thread. I would have thought at least it'd get an anime or something.....maybe now they'll do it since it's ended as an apology to what happened to Kekkaishi. (Still a good adaptation but it didn't even get to the best parts.) It deserved an anime, to be licensed --the works.
 

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this series deserved so much more, so much mooooooore

Truer words weren't spoken on this site.

Last monthly series falls, both of my favorite mangaka are gone, still no Komi-san anime and one of the new series is about a gorilla that plays Ping Pong. I feel betrayed.

ps - Ping Kong is kinda fun but we all know that it'll end in 3 volumes
 

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Damn, seeing all of this is really make me wondering what the fuck Shogukukan has been thinking these past years. Especially with the lack of new anime adaptations - it seems to be doing wonders for the other weekly magazines. Gotoubun's become the highest selling romcom currently running, Iruma-kun's anime adaptation seems to be giving the manga a good boost, and need I mention Demon Slayer. Meanwhile, it took so long for a relatively new manga to get an anime adaptation, and somehow it's not Komi-san. (No offense to Maoujou, though.) I'm also honestly surprised that Birdmen was ending this quickly as well.

It's a real shame, honestly. Things seem to be getting better, but here I am still hoping that Komi could get an anime. It might be hard, sure, but there's still a ton of interest around the series around the world. Getting officially licensed for an English release was big news, and it seems to be selling pretty well as far as American releases go.
 

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Damn, seeing all of this is really make me wondering what the fuck Shogukukan has been thinking these past years. Especially with the lack of new anime adaptations - it seems to be doing wonders for the other weekly magazines. Gotoubun's become the highest selling romcom currently running, Iruma-kun's anime adaptation seems to be giving the manga a good boost, and need I mention Demon Slayer. Meanwhile, it took so long for a relatively new manga to get an anime adaptation, and somehow it's not Komi-san. (No offense to Maoujou, though.) I'm also honestly surprised that Birdmen was ending this quickly as well.

It's a real shame, honestly. Things seem to be getting better, but here I am still hoping that Komi could get an anime. It might be hard, sure, but there's still a ton of interest around the series around the world. Getting officially licensed for an English release was big news, and it seems to be selling pretty well as far as American releases go.
I know this has become my rallying cry in this forum but it's worth repeating; Shogakukan isn't the only party who decides what gets an anime and what doesn't. They don't have an in-house animation studio (anymore?) in which they can make their own anime. That's where you get production committees that defray the costs of making anime. If a production committee (or someone with the power to get on one/get one created) doesn't want to make an anime of something then it won't happen. Shoggy can certainly push for certain series to get anime but if no one is on board then it won't happen. The channel where the anime is airing, the animation studio, and other advertisors are who decide what gets an anime and what doesn't. The only reason why Fujita's works are getting anime now is someone with power on a production committee wanted one. There are some adaptations that occur because some mega fan with money and power wants it to happen. It isn't just Shoggy just saying "Oh we hate money and anime so please don't animate any of our series!!!!" It also doesn't help that the last few animated adaptions of Sunday manga haven't done well so studios are even more hesitant to animate them. It's all about money and if you want a promised return of investment you'll go with something that has been successful before: I.E. Jump.

TL;dr We (and Shoggy) can want anime badly but if no one is willing to animate them they won't happen. Period.
 

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I know this has become my rallying cry in this forum but it's worth repeating; Shogakukan isn't the only party who decides what gets an anime and what doesn't. They don't have an in-house animation studio (anymore?) in which they can make their own anime. That's where you get production committees that defray the costs of making anime. If a production committee (or someone with the power to get on one/get one created) doesn't want to make an anime of something then it won't happen. Shoggy can certainly push for certain series to get anime but if no one is on board then it won't happen. The channel where the anime is airing, the animation studio, and other advertisors are who decide what gets an anime and what doesn't. The only reason why Fujita's works are getting anime now is someone with power on a production committee wanted one. There are some adaptations that occur because some mega fan with money and power wants it to happen. It isn't just Shoggy just saying "Oh we hate money and anime so please don't animate any of our series!!!!" It also doesn't help that the last few animated adaptions of Sunday manga haven't done well so studios are even more hesitant to animate them. It's all about money and if you want a promised return of investment you'll go with something that has been successful before: I.E. Jump.

TL;dr We (and Shoggy) can want anime badly but if no one is willing to animate them they won't happen. Period.
Yeah, this would make the most sense. I apologize for my outburst, then, I was just frustrated. It does make me more interested in how exactly Maou-jou was able to secure an anime. I guess that'll have to wait for when more details come out, since I'd like to see the production committee for that series in particular. (Also, IIRC, the production committee for Iruma-kun is literally just the television network, NHK, so you're probably right about it being beyond the manga publisher's control.)
 

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I know this has become my rallying cry in this forum but it's worth repeating; Shogakukan isn't the only party who decides what gets an anime and what doesn't. They don't have an in-house animation studio (anymore?) in which they can make their own anime. That's where you get production committees that defray the costs of making anime. If a production committee (or someone with the power to get on one/get one created) doesn't want to make an anime of something then it won't happen. Shoggy can certainly push for certain series to get anime but if no one is on board then it won't happen. The channel where the anime is airing, the animation studio, and other advertisors are who decide what gets an anime and what doesn't. The only reason why Fujita's works are getting anime now is someone with power on a production committee wanted one. There are some adaptations that occur because some mega fan with money and power wants it to happen. It isn't just Shoggy just saying "Oh we hate money and anime so please don't animate any of our series!!!!" It also doesn't help that the last few animated adaptions of Sunday manga haven't done well so studios are even more hesitant to animate them. It's all about money and if you want a promised return of investment you'll go with something that has been successful before: I.E. Jump.

TL;dr We (and Shoggy) can want anime badly but if no one is willing to animate them they won't happen. Period.
I understand they're not the only ones who decide on whether or not give an anime to a series. Honestly, I even understand why stuff like Be Blues!, Amano Megumi or Birdmen doesn't get anime, and I've made my peace with this. But the fact that series like Komi-san and Ao Ashi which are the most promising series from their respective magazines can't get anime, what I don't understand. They should really try to find a way to anime them, even if that means they have to finance it themself. Truthfully I am not sure how feasible it is, but they really should find a way. Forget about Shueshia and Kodansha, even Champion managed to animate two of their most promising newbies (also darwin's game, the best selling series from bessatsu shounen champion). Why can't Sunday do that? That can't be just because of series itself.

It is really making it hard to root for them. Knowing regardless of series' success, there is a big chance it won't reach its potential because it is from Shogakukan.
 
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I understand they're not the only ones who decide on whether or not give an anime to a series. Honestly, I even understand why stuff like Be Blues!, Amano Megumi or Birdmen doesn't get anime, and I've made my peace with this. But the fact that series like Komi-san and Ao Ashi which are the most promising series from their respective magazines can't get anime, I don't understand. They should really try to find a way to anime them, even if that means they have to finance it themself. Truthfully I am not sure how feasible it is, but they really should find a way. Forget about Shueshia and Kodansha, even Champion managed to animate two of their most promising newbies (also darwin's game, the best selling series from bessatsu shounen champion). Why can't Sunday do that? That can't be just because of series itself.

It is really making it hard to root for them. Knowing regardless of series' success, there is a big chance it won't reach its potential because it is from Shogakukan.
Honestly I'm not sure either, and I understand your frustration. It's not a clear cut thing. I dunno how financing an anime oneself would work but again there are more factors than money at play. Anime studios are also inundated with work as there are only so many people who can handle the workload (and with anime workplace standards being awful it's getting harder to hire more people) and even then there are only a few timeslots where anime can air. Add to this that Shougakukan (or well, Sunday at least) isn't exactly bursting with financial acumen and it's not surprising as to why they don't just pay for an anime themselves. I'd imagine to lure a studio/advertisers/TV stations/streaming services into a deal they'd have to pay more than what say Jump does to get an anime green lit without basically pimping the property out. Though again I get where you're coming from and I'm not really trying to defend them, just coming in from the POV that making anime is a lot more complex than what we know. It's subcontracting work to another firm and if you can't find a firm willing to take on the work then the work doesn't get done.

Yeah, this would make the most sense. I apologize for my outburst, then, I was just frustrated. It does make me more interested in how exactly Maou-jou was able to secure an anime. I guess that'll have to wait for when more details come out, since I'd like to see the production committee for that series in particular. (Also, IIRC, the production committee for Iruma-kun is literally just the television network, NHK, so you're probably right about it being beyond the manga publisher's control.)
Nah I didn't mean to come off like I was lecturing you or something. Like I said above I do get the frustration and since these deals are made behind closed doors the only one we can visibly see is Shoggy so it makes sense that a lot of shit is thrown at them when it may not necessarily be their fault. I'm kind of curious as to how Maoujo not only got an anime before Komi but was licensed before Komi too. Though I guess the first thing is related to the second, hah. Anime studios are made up of people after all --and the more I learn the more I find it is a very human business even if our distance from the industry makes it feel like it just happens on cue. What I mean to say is it may be a thing where no one wants to anime Komi out of disinterest or reverence to the work "I can't possibly work on that series and portray what the manga does properly!" and so on. It's why you see certain studios handle the same type of anime over and over again --they're used to that workload. I'm not trying to suggest that Komi is too complex to animate (though in a way maybe I am?) but it may be a reason why no one has attempted it yet. Though as I said again --Sunday anime in general don't really do well so there's that to consider. Also, I think most NHK shows are sponsored by the network so it may be a thing where they're going to publishers directly and footing the bill for anime they want to air? It sounds silly but not quite out of the realm of possibility, really.
 

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I am sure it isn't as simple as just paying to animate and there're a lot of factors involved which we don't know. But isn't solving those problems is their job? If not aren't they just destined to fall behind others? Anime is an important factor when it comes to promoting manga, while it's not impossible for a series to get really popular without an anime it's definitely way harder. To be frank one or a few popular series not getting an anime (or a timely one) for various reasons can happen to any publisher. But it's not just one or two with Shogakukan is it, it is a way more common occurrence.

I guess if they can't solve this problem, they should just focus more on veterans? Looking at past examples, It seems series like Tonikaku Cawaii, MAO, Yofukashi no Uta is more likely to get an anime than others.
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Kinda in the topic I was looking at past series from Be Blues! mangaka. He did have a series called Saikyou! Toritsu Aoizaka Koukou Yakyuubu. It lasted 26 volumes. It's available sales were:
|*36460 (5)│*53272│------│------│------┃*53,272 (*12)┃2008/*6|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 16
│*33976 (4)│*53979│------│------│------┃*53,979 (*11)┃2008/*9|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 17
│*33507 (4)│******│*67626│------│------┃*67,626 (*18)┃2008/12|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 18
│*53272 (5)│*71914│*80936│------│------┃*80,936 (*19)┃2009/*3|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 19
│*40578 (7)│*54340│*61491│------│------┃*61,491 (*21)┃2009/*5|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 20
│*39413 (6)│*55300│*61994│------│------┃*61,994 (*20)┃2009/*8|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 21
│*35646 (5)│*51693│------│------│------┃*51,693 (*12)┃2009/11|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 22
│*38522 (7)│*49882│------│------│------┃*49,882 (*14)┃2010/*1|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 23
│*30304 (4)│*49422│------│------│------┃*49,422 (*11)┃2010/*3|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 24
│*33240 (6)│*46242│------│------│------┃*46,242 (*13)┃2010/*5|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 25
│*18050 (3)│*39498│------│------│------┃*39,498 (*10)┃2010/*6|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 26

He started Be Blues one year after that series ended. The fact that neither of them did get an anime is kinda sad. I hope same thing doesn't happen to Ao Ashi. Recently I saw an animated CM (released in 2013) for Be Blues!. I am not sure if that's posted here.

It makes me sadder that it didn't get an anime. (Same for animated CM for Yugami-kun)
 
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this series deserved so much more, so much mooooooore

First Silver Spoon, now Birdmen, why must Sunday have everything I love end. At least Mao and Tonikaku aren't going anywhere soon, but having my two favorite Sunday manga finish only a few months apart from each other hurts.
 

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Truer words weren't spoken on this site.

Last monthly series falls, both of my favorite mangaka are gone, still no Komi-san anime and one of the new series is about a gorilla that plays Ping Pong. I feel betrayed.

ps - Ping Kong is kinda fun but we all know that it'll end in 3 volumes
To be fair, if Daiku is the crown of Weekly Shonen Sunday, Ping Kong is the new crown jewel mounted firmly in the center of that masterpiece lol. Honestly, I'm not sure how I feel about any of these new series yet. I'm still trying to wrap my head around Ping Kong being an actual thing, Usotsuki has pretty good artwork but may be a bit to emotionally heavy for my taste, and I'm going to need to see a few more chapters of Sennou Shitsuji to see if it'll go more down the comedy route or creepy family hypnosis route.

I'm a bit bummed the translations for Yukosae died since it seems like it got a bit more interesting later on with the introduction of more characters, and Ponkotsu I've really been enjoying. MAO's artwork doesn't really appeal to my tastes, but at this point I'm just glad WSS has another series that's selling well, Yofukashi no Uta has been amazing thus far, and I've honestly never really been too sure what genre Nokemono-tachi no Yoru is exactly still.
 

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Just wondering, what makes a series deserve an anime or whatever?
 

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Just wondering, what makes a series deserve an anime or whatever?
This probably isn't the best answer or entirely accurate, but I usually think of it from the perspective of several different business standpoints:

First would be rewarding a series that has been showing promising growth and hopefully helping to expedite its growth to greater levels (such as Jujutsu Kaisen over in WSJ or Iruma-kun in WSC). In my opinion, this can have the largest sales impact if done correctly since a good adaptation can cause an even greater influx in readers on a per volume basis, in addition to reaping the financial benefits of those sweet backlog sales (as was the case for WSJ's Kimetsu and WSM's Gotoubun).

Second would be trying to revitalize a series that has either been plateauing in sales or just starting to decline (such as WSM's Runway and Senryuu Shoujo). Receiving an anime at this stage can be a real make-or-break situation for the series since if it fails to drum up new interest, it oftentimes signals to the editors that the series likely won't be more profitable to them than it currently is.

Third would be when a series has been facing a long-term decline in sales from where its peak once was and/or is nearing its conclusion and they are hoping for one final backlog push of sales (such as BSM's Araburu Kisetsu). These can be nice for fans since the anime essentially serves as a final send-off, almost like a "wow, I can't believe this is happening" moment. I'm not sure how often this strategy works, but I've seen it a few times, so it must work at least sometimes.

Lastly, I would classify this group as passion projects (Kanata no Astra from Jump+ is a good example). Adaptations from already completed works where you can't really think of a reason from a promotional standpoint as to why these series would be getting animated now, but when they do, you just happily accept it as fact without questioning the good fortune.

For WSS, they had a lot of series that used to be in the first category, but now ones where the sky once seemed like the limit (Komi-san) are starting to drift into the second category, and a large number of series are slipping from the second to the third level. There are definitely more factors that go into deciding what to animate and when, but from the sales-aspect of the decision, I would say it would probably be analyzed something like that.
 

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>tfw Daiku is still ongoing
>tfw Komi no anime
It's impossible to understand Sunday's business decisions. Don't try to make sense out of it. Their decisions are galaxy brain level that us common people can only go crazy trying to comprehend them.
 

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This probably isn't the best answer or entirely accurate, but I usually think of it from the perspective of several different business standpoints:

First would be rewarding a series that has been showing promising growth and hopefully helping to expedite its growth to greater levels (such as Jujutsu Kaisen over in WSJ or Iruma-kun in WSC). In my opinion, this can have the largest sales impact if done correctly since a good adaptation can cause an even greater influx in readers on a per volume basis, in addition to reaping the financial benefits of those sweet backlog sales (as was the case for WSJ's Kimetsu and WSM's Gotoubun).

Second would be trying to revitalize a series that has either been plateauing in sales or just starting to decline (such as WSM's Runway and Senryuu Shoujo). Receiving an anime at this stage can be a real make-or-break situation for the series since if it fails to drum up new interest, it oftentimes signals to the editors that the series likely won't be more profitable to them than it currently is.

Third would be when a series has been facing a long-term decline in sales from where its peak once was and/or is nearing its conclusion and they are hoping for one final backlog push of sales (such as BSM's Araburu Kisetsu). These can be nice for fans since the anime essentially serves as a final send-off, almost like a "wow, I can't believe this is happening" moment. I'm not sure how often this strategy works, but I've seen it a few times, so it must work at least sometimes.

Lastly, I would classify this group as passion projects (Kanata no Astra from Jump+ is a good example). Adaptations from already completed works where you can't really think of a reason from a promotional standpoint as to why these series would be getting animated now, but when they do, you just happily accept it as fact without questioning the good fortune.

For WSS, they had a lot of series that used to be in the first category, but now ones where the sky once seemed like the limit (Komi-san) are starting to drift into the second category, and a large number of series are slipping from the second to the third level. There are definitely more factors that go into deciding what to animate and when, but from the sales-aspect of the decision, I would say it would probably be analyzed something like that.
I think that question was more in the line of, since there's limited amount of series that can get anime in a season, what makes a series deserve to get anime compared to others? How and based on what you can decide that?

I guess we can say the series in the first category (series that have high sales and actively growing) does deserve an anime because they can really take off and reach their potential with an anime. While there's no guarantee that will happen, they at least deserve a chance. Other than that everything else comes down to personal preferences.
- You can think a certain series, regardless of its sales, can really take off with an anime.
- You can also think a certain series deserves an anime just because its great or something.

Regardless almost all of it comes down to personal opinion, and probably for every series in a magazine, there's someone who thinks it's deserving an anime. For a magazine not named Jump or Shounen Magazine, there's bound to be some people who will be disappointed. And probably the one who decides to not give an anime to a series isn't even magazine itself.

I should admit, I think series actively growing and have high sales, deserves an anime. But if it's not meant to be, it's not meant to be. I think a magazine should at least try to get one for those series, but how we know they aren't actually doing that?

I am guessing Sunday would've like to have an anime for Komi-san in around 2018 too. I am sure they aren't allergic to making money. The fact that series in Shogakukan magazines are struggling to get an anime, is making me think they at least did something wrong at some point in time. But thinking again, it could be just other publishers like Kodansha and Shueisha are making the right things. Champion was truly lucky (or wise) with Iruma-kun anime coming at the right time, but the same thing happened with Takagi-san in Gessan. I guess saying they aren't as capable of them isn't true.

I am just pissed about that "big announcement" for Ao Ashi and I worry it won't get an anime. Since it's hard to find successful sports series nowadays, I hope the successful ones do get as much as promotion as possible. Because of that, I did get a little bit carried away.

Personally I would've loved to see anime adaptations for Birdmen, Yugami-kun, Imawa no Kuni no Alice and Be Blues!. I have nothing to say about Be Blues and Yugami-kun, other than similar series like them did get an anime before, so why not those?. Imawa no Kuni no Alice is a great death game series, I think it's a shame this series didn't get a proper adaptation (while so many sub-par ones gets one). For Birdmen, I think it would fit into anime format nicely, and it may do well in a service like Netflix maybe? All of this would be my personal opinion, of course, Most of them (probably all of them) won't even happen.
 

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I am sure it isn't as simple as just paying to animate and there're a lot of factors involved which we don't know. But isn't solving those problems is their job? If not aren't they just destined to fall behind others? Anime is an important factor when it comes to promoting manga, while it's not impossible for a series to get really popular without an anime it's definitely way harder. To be frank one or a few popular series not getting an anime (or a timely one) for various reasons can happen to any publisher. But it's not just one or two with Shogakukan is it, it is a way more common occurrence.

I guess if they can't solve this problem, they should just focus more on veterans? Looking at past examples, It seems series like Tonikaku Cawaii, MAO, Yofukashi no Uta is more likely to get an anime than others.
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Kinda in the topic I was looking at past series from Be Blues! mangaka. He did have a series called Saikyou! Toritsu Aoizaka Koukou Yakyuubu. It lasted 26 volumes. It's available sales were:
|*36460 (5)│*53272│------│------│------┃*53,272 (*12)┃2008/*6|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 16
│*33976 (4)│*53979│------│------│------┃*53,979 (*11)┃2008/*9|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 17
│*33507 (4)│******│*67626│------│------┃*67,626 (*18)┃2008/12|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 18
│*53272 (5)│*71914│*80936│------│------┃*80,936 (*19)┃2009/*3|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 19
│*40578 (7)│*54340│*61491│------│------┃*61,491 (*21)┃2009/*5|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 20
│*39413 (6)│*55300│*61994│------│------┃*61,994 (*20)┃2009/*8|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 21
│*35646 (5)│*51693│------│------│------┃*51,693 (*12)┃2009/11|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 22
│*38522 (7)│*49882│------│------│------┃*49,882 (*14)┃2010/*1|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 23
│*30304 (4)│*49422│------│------│------┃*49,422 (*11)┃2010/*3|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 24
│*33240 (6)│*46242│------│------│------┃*46,242 (*13)┃2010/*5|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 25
│*18050 (3)│*39498│------│------│------┃*39,498 (*10)┃2010/*6|最強!!都立あおい坂高校野球部 26

He started Be Blues one year after that series ended. The fact that neither of them did get an anime is kinda sad. I hope same thing doesn't happen to Ao Ashi. Recently I saw an animated CM (released in 2013) for Be Blues!. I am not sure if that's posted here.

It makes me sadder that it didn't get an anime. (Same for animated CM for Yugami-kun)
See but then we get into the question of how do you solve this problem? Throw more money at it? Then when the series fails you get less of a return. Let's not forget Dagashikashi got two chances by two different anime studios and failed to do much of anything both times despite the anime selling really well. You're making it sound as if Shougakukan has had lots of popular anime in recent years and are only now refusing to make more. Keijo made no impact. Dagashi made no impact. I'm happy to see Maoujo get the thumbs up but lets be for real --it's not going to suddenly be the savior that makes sunday look like a viable magazine again. Ultimately it's the audience that votes with their support and as of now for whatever reason they're not showing support. It's a symbotic relationship that looks one sided if we focus on not getting what we want vs what's viable. As you said in a later post they *are* making anime out of things but they're not doing much of anything for the original manga so can we really place the blame on just them? Especially considering Shueisha is a brand more than a magazine at this point --it's unfair to compare the two.
 

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See but then we get into the question of how do you solve this problem? Throw more money at it? Then when the series fails you get less of a return. Let's not forget Dagashikashi got two chances by two different anime studios and failed to do much of anything both times despite the anime selling really well. You're making it sound as if Shougakukan has had lots of popular anime in recent years and are only now refusing to make more. Keijo made no impact. Dagashi made no impact. I'm happy to see Maoujo get the thumbs up but lets be for real --it's not going to suddenly be the savior that makes sunday look like a viable magazine again. Ultimately it's the audience that votes with their support and as of now for whatever reason they're not showing support. It's a symbotic relationship that looks one sided if we focus on not getting what we want vs what's viable. As you said in a later post they *are* making anime out of things but they're not doing much of anything for the original manga so can we really place the blame on just them? Especially considering Shueisha is a brand more than a magazine at this point --it's unfair to compare the two.
I am not comparing Shogakukan to Kodansha or Shueisha. I don't think expecting an anime for almost every series in magazine (like jump or magazine) is realistic or doing that would be smart. Series like Komi-san and Ao Ashi is kinda different though, they're very big hits for their perspective magazines and they could get so much bigger with an anime. While that's not certain to happen, I think they deserve a chance. Maybe those series not getting an anime isn't because of lack of try from Shogakukan. Still, that doesn't make it any less frustrating.

Yes, lack of anime for Shogakukan series is not a recent thing (I think). But is there another case like Komi-san in the last 10 years or so? All the other series I can think of at least got a try (like Magi, Dagashi Kashi, etc.). Though you could say that it's evidence that the series is the problem. I fail to see it why, but it could be.

They aren't even late with Ao Ashi, anyway. For all we know, they could announce one in the following months.
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How can I say it, I don't know why things like this or how can things can better for Sunday and I am not even blaming them. But Shogakukan is really disappointing when it comes to Anime adaptations. Even if it's just because you won't see your favorite series in anime format. Maybe it is normal for Sunday and we should just accept it. Again that doesn't change the fact that it is disappointing.
 
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