Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Datu Mike]

I’ll use a common r/manga response:
-Just two characters falling in love
-Have some fluff, but make those characters interesting and likable.
-Don’t spend hundreds of chapters reading a relationship only to end on them getting together, go further than that. Have them go through trials and develop their relationship.

Late reply, Ore no monogatari is perfect example for a good romance manga. Takeru is so chad and it's so rare to see an MC like him nowadays

 

[Newkerzy]

I will always, always think that when treating with huge franchises with international impact, issuing fast and proper communicates about whatever topic/controversy they bring up is a must. You can't just think some mistakes won't get out of hand and think that it can be pretty much solved with a short text and a tweet. And in this case, without even explaining in detail how the whole error generated, and that's where the problem comes, they didn't explain how it did even happen so people would try to stop misunderstanding. It's really simple, you do something that has bad reception, you explain why you committed it unintentionally, and you try to handle the situation until it dries out. But yeah, this probably won't stop anytime soon now, because of both people that will still be hurt by the situation and those that try to minimize or ridicule everything as in if people thoughts weren't important or as in if there hadn't been any error.

Anyway, I won't bring up the topic anymore, we will just see how it develops. They should be way more careful with this stuff, and if editors for series are not enough, having people with knowledge in naming will be useful for them in the future.

I don't even think this detailed follow-up was actually all that necessary. At this point, a majority of the fandom, Chinese-Koreans included already figured out the reason and intentions behind the naming. The only reason this follow-up was even rolled out is because Chinese government-sponsored trolls kept gaslighting Horikoshi.

Jesus, I need Wani's response to all this. The croc must be overwhelmed with all this.

Wani-sensei probably zipped through several chapters at once near New Year's Eve, and drowned in Sake during the holidays. They were gifts from Horikoshi.

 

[ChocoBar9]

Its weird that Jump hasn't really capitalized on Kimetsu's new found popularity and didn't make a huge deal about it beating One Piece in overall sales. Remember a decade ago when One Piece was going through another boost it has various covers and spreads every week and there was even a TV special that went over the series longstanding popularity and new found audience whereas Jump isn't treating Kimetsu any differently from what it was a year ago in fact I'm surprised it took this long for a second popularity poll.

 

[Ryuusei]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

 

[pamuchi]

I don't even think this detailed follow-up was actually all that necessary. At this point, a majority of the fandom, Chinese-Koreans included already figured out the reason and intentions behind the naming. The only reason this follow-up was even rolled out is because Chinese government-sponsored trolls kept gaslighting Horikoshi.



Wani-sensei probably zipped through several chapters at once near New Year's Eve, and drowned in Sake during the holidays. They were gifts from Horikoshi.

Didn't know about that. Nice touch from Hori!

 

[Rain Spectre]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

Another big drop for Mitama

Also, what the hell, Yozakura's sales are really...huh.

 

[yadayada]

Its weird that Jump hasn't really capitalized on Kimetsu's new found popularity and didn't make a huge deal about it beating One Piece in overall sales. Remember a decade ago when One Piece was going through another boost it has various covers and spreads every week and there was even a TV special that went over the series longstanding popularity and new found audience whereas Jump isn't treating Kimetsu any differently from what it was a year ago in fact I'm surprised it took this long for a second popularity poll.

If we're really in the final arc it makes no sense for Shueisha to advertise that OP lost its throne.

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

Goddamn it mitama, you were supposed to be the one that fucking lives here.

 

[pamuchi]

Its weird that Jump hasn't really capitalized on Kimetsu's new found popularity and didn't make a huge deal about it beating One Piece in overall sales. Remember a decade ago when One Piece was going through another boost it has various covers and spreads every week and there was even a TV special that went over the series longstanding popularity and new found audience whereas Jump isn't treating Kimetsu any differently from what it was a year ago in fact I'm surprised it took this long for a second popularity poll.

I have seen some TV programs talking about KnY, also there was a recent one where they talked about the newest circulation numbers and they made a report at tsutaya dnno if that counts.

 

[Koni]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

So Miitama is dropping quite a bit. That's not good.

And I guess some people may be finally coming around to the fact that mmmmayyyybe Yozakura Family might actually be selling well enough to survive. xD I apologize, but I just find all of this funny, since people seemed so convinced that it was gonna fail. Quality and popularity don't correlate, especially if the former varies wildly by person.

 

[Chuck_Atlas]

Kimetsu be like: "Its over Jump! I have the high ground!"
Also, not looking good for Mitama :/

 

[Ottes]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

Mitama, please....

 

[Ryuusei]

The fact that Yozakura is seemingly performing better than all the axed series from 2019 is really so amusing. Can this make it escape the axe? Who knows.

So Miitama is dropping quite a bit. That's not good.

And I guess some people may be finally coming around to the fact that mmmmayyyybe Yozakura Family might actually be selling well enough to survive. xD I apologize, but I just find all of this funny, since people seemed so convinced that it was gonna fail. Quality and popularity don't correlate, especially if the former varies wildly by person.

Next thing we know Zipman sells better than the other 4 new series.

 

[El Jacco]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

That Yoza hold is impressive meanwhile Mitama is just dropping more.

Hopefully it can get around the 7k mark (Im probably hoping too much), while Yoza could get atleast 10k if it hold like that the next days.

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

NOOOOOOOOO, MITAMA, I HAD ALL MY MONEY ON YOUUUUU! GOD DAMN IT!!!
DON'T DIE!
DON'T DIE!

 

[Newkerzy]

Nothing. This was a lightning in a bottom and shouldn't be taken as anything but. What makes a series appeal can be a number of reasons, you can make the best anime adaptation you want but it won't matter much if it doesn't click to viewers. Kimetsu was a domino effect that nobody could really predict and doing the exact same thing with the next adaptation will probably not have the same results.

BUT...if I can make a suggestion for the upcoming adaptation of Jujutsu Taisen a big reason I feel that Kimetsu clicked to viewers is because ufotable did a good job putting emphasis on the emotional aspects of the series that I don't feel the manga did well initially hence why it didn't find its audience from the beginning. It made the scenes that was adapted a lot stronger than the source of material which is something that can't be said about a lot of Jump adaptations unfortunately. MAPPA just doesn't have that sort of talent though and I fear that its going to be a fairly straight forwards adaptation as a whole like Dr. Stone but I hope to be wrong.

On another note, I'm already thinking of what Wani-sensei's next series would be. A while ago Wani drew Saber and Rin in a Fate tribute. I thought about how much better the designs were compared to KnY, so I believe that Wani's style might suit a Western fantasy well. If the art skews closer to what Wani drew for the Fate franchise tribute, I think it'll even gather more fans from the get-go.

Didn't know about that. Nice touch from Hori!

....That was a joke.

 

[TxxT]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

Backlog

Kimetsu no Yaiba

6. Kimetsu no Yaiba #2
7. Kimetsu no Yaiba #14
8. Kimetsu no Yaiba #9
9. Kimetsu no Yaiba #13
10. Kimetsu no Yaiba #10
11. Kimetsu no Yaiba #17
12. Kimetsu no Yaiba #11
13. Kimetsu no Yaiba #5
14. Kimetsu no Yaiba #3
15. Kimetsu no Yaiba #12
16. Kimetsu no Yaiba #1
17. Kimetsu no Yaiba #4
18. Kimetsu no Yaiba #6
19. Kimetsu no Yaiba #15
20. Kimetsu no Yaiba #1
21. Kimetsu no Yaiba #2
23. Kimetsu no Yaiba #2
26. Kimetsu no Yaiba #18
33. Kimetsu no Yaiba Fanbook

My Hero Academia

81. My Hero Academia #25
161. My Hero Academia #24
227. My Hero Academia #23
246. My Hero Academia #1
252. My Hero Academia #22
271. My Hero Academia #2
291. My Hero Academia #21
297. My Hero Academia #7
307. My Hero Academia #6
308. My Hero Academia #3
323. My Hero Academia #20
336. My Hero Academia #19
344. My Hero Academia #5
379. My Hero Academia #9
423. My Hero Academia #4
438. My Hero Academia #10
462. My Hero Academia #8

Haikyu!!

74. Haikyu!! #41
180. Haikyu!! #40
266. Haikyu!! #39
294. Haikyu!! #28
335. Haikyu!! #32
357. Haikyu!! #33
375. Haikyu!! #26
388. Haikyu!! #38
393. Haikyu!! #27
409. Haikyu!! #37
415. Haikyu!! #30
416. Haikyu!! #29
453. Haikyu!! #36

Act-Age

3. Act-Age #10
278. Act-Age #9
305. Act-Age #3
324. Act-Age #2
413. Act-Age #1
449. Act-Age #7
475. Act-Age #8

Spy x Family

35. Spy x Family #3
44. Spy x Family #1
45. Spy x Family #2

 

[Konja9]

Shoseki Daily Ranking - 2/6

Jump Volumes

#1 Kimetsu no Yaiba 19
#2 Dr. Stone 14
#3 Act-age 10
#32 Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 20
#69 Mission: Yozakura Family 1
#167 Mitama Security 1
#257 Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui

It seems Yozakura is mantaining its position (better than Samurai 8 if I'm not mistaken).

It will be interesting to see what are the sales at the end.

 

[Aeneas]

Was randomly browsing Murata's twitter, and saw him retweet this show that two assistants started recently:

Atsu and Kousei's poor Manga Dojo

A channel sent by active cartoon professional assistant "Atsu (Atsuhiro)" and cartoonist and reed "Kosei", According to their work history, they draw a pictu...

www.youtube.com

One has been an assistant on Rookies, Shaman King, Naruto, and Death Note (the one with the headwear). I thought I recognized the other, and yup, one of Togashi's assistants, maybe since the beginning of HxH. You can see him here in the Jump Ryu video. And it looks like he put this together for his 50th birthday back in 2016.

As for Murata, I can't tell 100%, but it seems they'll be having him on soon?

 

[Avok]

Kimetsu just keeps going.

Excited to see how the movie will perform.

 

[Rain Spectre]

Seriously, when the hell do we get a new Jump series with a reception strong enough to survive already? I'm rapidly losing hope...