Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[therocomotion]

The maid/assistant character in Witch should have been killed to add emotional weight to the story or something. She seems pretty pointless.

 

[TyVip]

trio protag is a trend these days

 

[BX-02BLODIA]

I enjoyed Witch Guardian's second chapter more than the first, but I felt that the two should have been the first chapter.

MASHLE was entertaining, and that wand breaking scene was kinda badass.

Undead is mad fun. It's starting to become one of my favorite newbies.

Chainsaw was OH MY GOOOOD!

Mitama's chapter was a lighter affair, but it was fun.

I like that Agravity is finally starting to show the aliens.

Also, Toma's face in the new Jigokuraku was gold.

 

[FireFantasyVI]

Yozakura was actually pretty interesting, it's just that for me at least, it's hard to look past all the flaws and enjoy a chapter, even if the chapter was alright. Hopefully if it does get to survive it can make use of it's extended life, because it has shown glimmers of potential.

Mitama was fun as usual, although the twist was pretty obvious. Wholesome as always.

Zipman again looked flashy but I don't care about either the protagonists or any of the bad guys.

Agravity was fun as usual, I think it's strength is in the SoL character interactions, but it does the scif fi parts good as well.

UxU felt a bit exposition heavy but I still liked it.

Mashle was ok this week. Felt like a transition chapter to get into the school. I like Mash enough but with the gags stripped away it felt a little lacking.

I liked Witch Guardian this week, even if it still feels pretty standard. The AoT inspiration felt even more apparent this week, Fafner bit his hand for crying out loud.

As far as newbies go Mitama>>Agravity>>Witch Guardian>Mashle>UxU>>Yozakura>Zipman

 

[Newkerzy]

Regarding SxF's more serious aspects, I think it's doing fine for now. For a first arc with higher stakes than usual, it was good. The only question is how the author will gradually escalate the stakes as the series goes on.

 

[Aipom626]

Mitama continues to be the best of the newer series, wholesome Samon continues to pay off in the best way possible. Yozakura had an interesting chapter this week with a lot of big plot reveals, but I can't tell if this means it's heading towards its final arc, or if it could still go back to status quo after this. Undead had a good chapter this week too. I can't wait to meet some of these new "Un"s in person, especially the barrier woman. Mashle was good this week too, and only 1 of 2 of the gags didn't really land for me. Honestly, it may have been my favorite chapter of the series so far. Agravity was passable this week, but I hope that means we'll finally be seeing more alien creatures in the series. I'd actually really enjoy Agravity if it spent its time completing the big book of species list since that kind of thing is right up my alley. Witch had another chapter that was pretty dull to me, besides that color page which was skillfully done. If something doesn't hook me next week, I'll probably drop it.

New series ranking: Mitama >>> Undead > Mashle > Yozakura >> Agravity >> Witch > Samurai 8 = Zipman

This week's top 5:

1. We Never Learn - A majorly emotionally satisfying chapter for Uruka and Nariyuki's whole household.
2. Mitama Security - A really cute chapter. The series improved tremendously once the author started giving Rena emotion in her expressions other than just the shocked look and making Joh less of a crying lunatic.
3. Act-Age - An excellent setup chapter leading up to the second half of this arc. A lot of great banter between Team B as well lol.
4. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san - A highly dramatic, unexpected, main plot changing series of events and development. Unlike To Love Ru's Riito whom I hated with a passion, I love Kogarashi and think he's a great protagonist.
5. Undead Unluck - A few new characters were introduced; the power system was fine-tuned a bit more; and there's still plenty of questions to look forward to the answers. I'm really enjoying the world and characters this author has been creating.
Honorary Mention. Mashle - The chapter was actually quite good. The majority of the jokes landed, and that headmaster's spell was truly a horrifying sight but artistically brilliant. In a way, I was briefly reminded of WSS's Memesis in regards to the simplistic character art but crazily detailed monster designs. If Yuuna wouldn't have had such a bombshell chapter, it would've been in my top 5 for sure. It was tough to pick between Undead and this for the last slot.

 

[Halloween]

I was going to comment on how Power from Chainsaw Man is my favorite female character in Jump after this latest chapter.

But you know what? No. She's one of my favorite characters period. Fujimoto's character writing is beyond exceptional.

 

[Aipom626]

I was going to comment on how Power from Chainsaw Man is my favorite female character in Jump after this latest chapter.

But you know what? No. She's one of my favorite characters period. Fujimoto's character writing is beyond exceptional.

Power is literally the only reason I follow Chainsawman weekly. Denji is pretty good, but him by himself isn't enough to keep my interest. Any chapter with Denji and Power together is usually hilarious. If Fujimoto would ever kill off Power, I'd no longer have a reason to continue reading.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

The poll for issue 11 is open!: https://mangahelpers.com/forum/thre...-shonen-jump-issue-11-voting-is-open.3015501/

 

[westabyss]

My favorite chapters this week:
1. Act Age
2. JJK
3. Chainsaw Man

WNL and UU also had entertaining chapters. Mashle and Witch are pretty bad and dropped

 

[RafGL]

MASHLE is definitely the best series from the three that have been serialized this round and no one can change my mind. Such a shame it will most likely die, but how it manages to keep the dumb gag mixing the plain art with some amazing spreads just shows how the author knows that he's just doing a parody manga, and he's doing it amazingly well for these first 3 chapters. Also, an amazing chapter for Yozakura, hope it's not an axe-flag and keeps up what it's doing.

As for older series: amazing end of arc for Dr. STONE, and sets up a really interesting part after being through countless episodic/invention parts that were a bit boring. Glad that Neverland is setting its final moments, excited to see what happens in the end

 

[Reading Somethin']

Mitama was more sol this week. I like how these characters interact.

This last chapter is why I keep reading Chainsawman, Denji and Power are so legitimately stupid and crazy, they're always fun to watch.

UU is very fast-paced and the powers are very creative.

Agravity Boys was fun, but I wish Saga was given better characterization.

I liked this Mashle chapter more than the last one. Still very "One" kind of humor, but more of the wizard world was shown.

Witch Gaurdian is still insanely generic. I'll give it a few more chapters.

Neverland has improved, I hope the ending is on a similar level to earlier arcs.

 

[Stivie]

UxU is no different than Hungry joker, I didn’t see where they’re getting it’s creative.

 

[Koni]

My Hero Academia: Exciting and nerve-wracking. Also, the Doctor’s name wasn’t mentioned anywhere, which didn’t cross my mind when I hypothesized that this issue might be delayed. Either way, I’m legit scared for a hero. Good chapter, haven’t been this invested in a while!

We Never Learn: We may have a victor, and this is where everyone will start saying the manga all goes to shit. I liked this chapter though, but there’s the problem with having multiple heroines in a bowl. Only one wins and people get salty. Good chapter.

Undead Unluck: Yeah, gimme more of those sick powers and explanations at the expense of all of the bad black comedy! Please keep doing that! Fun chapter!

Mashle: I wish that we could’ve had some more comedic shenanigans to get myself more attached to Mash so that serious chapters like this one would work better, but I’ll forgive it for now. What I will forgive far less is the main female character falling in love with Mash almost instantly. I’d have liked to know more about her first and seen them be friends and then fall in love. I don’t even think we’ve heard the girl’s name. Okay/decent chapter.

Guardian of the Witch: Manga continues to deliver interesting information in the most boring way possible. The characters are likable but I hope they’re fleshed out sooner rather than later. Most importantly, encompassing all of that, this manga needs to be its own thing. Obvious Attack on Titan references are really obvious. I want to love this manga, but it hasn’t given me a reason to yet. Okay chapter.

 

[RafGL]

I'm gonna comment on something before people ask about MANGA Plus views and how this new system of cutting down refreshed or re-read views is gonna affect. Spoiler: a lot.

Basically we're around 3h after chapters have been published. Weeks ago, let's say, on the week of Jan 26th, we could record numbers that went from 50.000 for ONE PIECE, to 25.000-35.000 for other big series such as MHA, KNY or Dr. STONE, and the rest would go from 15.000 to 5.000, with only series such as ZIPMAN!!, AGRAVITY BOYS or Mitama Security with lower numbers. All of these in 3 hours.

Now the situation goes like this: Even if ONE PIECE had no chapter, the highest number in the platform goes to Kimetsu with only 8.000 views. Rest goes all down up to 1.000 views minimum, with only again ZIPMAN, AGRAVITY BOYS and Mitama Security below it (~800, ~500 and ~250 views, respectively). So yeah, the drop's huge, really huge. And no, it won't suddenly grow over the week and achieve old numbers. If it actually did it would be amazing, but there's almost no chances. This kind of reflects the little audience the platform actually has, and it's kind of worrying, I'd say.

Update, cuz why not: After 4 hours, Kimetsu is the only series that surpasses 10.000 views. Rest just keeps being there:

Spoiler: Views after 4 hours.

Kimetsu no Yaiba 10265
My Hero Academia 9307
Dr. STONE 6413
Black Clover 5254
The Promised Neverland 5122
We Never Learn 4129
Chainsaw Man 4110
MASHLE 3947
Guardian of the Witch 2462
Samurai 8 1665
Undead Unluck 1612
Jujutsu Kaisen 1599
Act-Age 1539
Mission Yozakura Family 1266
ONE PIECE 1174
ZIPMAN!! 1017
AGRAVITY BOYS 739
Haikyu!! 440
Mitama Security 319

 

[Minsel]

Yozakura was pretty great, we got a goal and we have a good arc going right now which im happy with. 2 great chapters in a row.

MASHLE is pretty funny, it made me wince when the drill sword was piercing through his hand.

GOTW was kinda slow, idk I feel very weird about it, like it should've done more. I woulda liked to see what the area was like and why were they needed to run out in the open when the guardian already knows his way around the castle border.

Undead Unluck was fun, love the action and the constant movement, feels very lively and love the pacing, story, premise, everything, although the raunchiness is not my cup of tea, I can ignore it.

Mitama was wholesome. That is all.

Zipman is so linear that we're gonna need boiling water to loosen it up. (spaghetti joke) idk designs are cool but plot and story is sooooooooooooooooooo boring.

 

[Aipom626]

I'm gonna comment on something before people ask about MANGA Plus views and how this new system of cutting down refreshed or re-read views is gonna affect. Spoiler: a lot.

Basically we're around 3h after chapters have been published. Weeks ago, let's say, on the week of Jan 26th, we could record numbers that went from 50.000 for ONE PIECE, to 25.000-35.000 for other big series such as MHA, KNY or Dr. STONE, and the rest would go from 15.000 to 5.000, with only series such as ZIPMAN!!, AGRAVITY BOYS or Mitama Security with lower numbers. All of these in 3 hours.

Now the situation goes like this: Even if ONE PIECE had no chapter, the highest number in the platform goes to Kimetsu with only 8.000 views. Rest goes all down up to 1.000 views minimum, with only again ZIPMAN, AGRAVITY BOYS and Mitama Security below it (~800, ~500 and ~250 views, respectively). So yeah, the drop's huge, really huge. And no, it won't suddenly grow over the week and achieve old numbers. If it actually did it would be amazing, but there's almost no chances. This kind of reflects the little audience the platform actually has, and it's kind of worrying, I'd say.

So are the views from MangaPlus now going by IP address = 1 view? So if I read Mitama chapter 23 today and then read it again a few days later, will it still only count as a single view? Also, if I go through and re-read all 23 chapters, would that count as 23 views for Mitama or just a single view from my IP address?

 

[Ryuusei]

Mashle is by far the best newbie we've had since CSM. I really hope it stays in the long term and doesn't lose its sparkle, every week it's a joy to read the new chapters. AA set up some really cool stuff with his chapter and I'm excited to see the upcoming battles in JJK. MHA is high octane right now and it all seems to come down to one big event so I'm afraid of the outcome (in a good way, obviously) and Horikoshi's art keep being top notch, he absolutely owned with the doctor's expressions. CSM was very with fun with Power in the forefront.

 

[RafGL]

So are the views from MangaPlus now going by IP address = 1 view? So if I read Mitama chapter 23 today and then read it again a few days later, will it still only count as a single view? Also, if I go through and re-read all 23 chapters, would that count as 23 views for Mitama or just a single view from my IP address?

1 view per chapter and actually reading the chapter, not just clicking on it and exiting, as far as I know.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

1 view per chapter and actually reading the chapter, not just clicking on it and exiting, as far as I know.

So basically if i read chapter X of Mitama, and i go read again the entire chapter, it will not count anymore? why they're even doing this? one thing is just clicking and leaving but not even counting actual re-reads is stupid