Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ramen]

now they aren't

They weren't from the beginning

 

[WoWfan]

Ur is rather powerful given what she did with Deliora

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They weren't from the beginning

They were before

 

[Ramen]

Do you see anyone else complaining?

 

[WoWfan]

Do you see anyone else complaining?

Then it is is the bug in the system

 

[Ramen]

Then it is is the bug in the system

Then tell someone who has more power than Ax

 

[WoWfan]

Then tell someone who has more power than Ax

Who would that be?

 

[Ramen]

Who would that be?

@goldb @Brandish @Belserion

 

[Axiomus]

Ur is rather powerful given what she did with Deliora

Deliora is straight fodder. He's not Mard Geer level, let alone Bloodman level, let alone Larcade level, let alone Zeref level. Let alone Natsu.

 

[WoWfan]

@Brandish, I think there is a bug on the website as I cannot see images that people post here, either they pop up at random or just don't appear at all

 

[Ramen]

Deliora is straight fodder. He's not Mard Geer level, let alone Bloodman level, let alone Larcade level, let alone Zeref level. Let alone Natsu.

What about Deliora vs Keith, Kyouka or Silver?

 

[WoWfan]

Deliora is straight fodder. He's not Mard Geer level, let alone Bloodman level, let alone Larcade level, let alone Zeref level. Let alone Natsu.

Deliora would scale to Ur or higher, considering Ur is strong enough to tank the energy of the moonlight hitting her body for years

 

[Axiomus]

Deliora would scale to Ur or higher, considering Ur is strong enough to tank the energy of the moonlight hitting her body for years

Deliora is stronger than Ur. So are a lot of people. Neinhart's power completely eclipse's Ur's, and Natsu stomped him.

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What about Deliora vs Keith, Kyouka or Silver?

Silver stomps Deliora. So does Kyouka. Keith might not, but Keith died to Juvia.

 

[WoWfan]

Not saying he isn't the strongest, but by comparison to his last opponent, he is still impressive

 

[sharkai]

Any reason to doubt Happy here? He's being pretty accurate, and it's not like he's biased against Erza (not like you are against Laxus). Makarov had no idea how strong Fairy Tail got because he hadn't seen them for a year. Not the case when he says Laxus is the only one with the power to bring Natsu back by force.

"Pre-timeskip Erza" is the exact same as Erza without second origin. So, thank you for proving my point. Laxus was stronger than Erza until she received second origin. In fact even now after she received second origin, he's still stronger. Also, second origin is way more of a power-up than 3 months of training. The example you provided doesn't even work, because Gajeel wasn't on the same level as Natsu. This was actually pointed out to him twice.

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Pretty obvious that Laxus wasn't asleep because he knows what Mystogan is like. Others don't because Mystogan puts them to sleep all the time. It's the whole point of that interaction. What did you think Mystogan just chose to show Laxus his face because he felt like it? They don't even like each other. Also, if Mystogan could put Laxus to sleep, you'd think he'd do it in the fight.

I just gave you like 5 examples of why Laxus has been portrayed as stronger than Erza since the beginning of the series. Including one you did not address: Mirajane lacks confidence that she and Erza combined can take on Jura, whom Laxus beat. Your only response to this is to simply call this wank. None of this is wank. Saying red lightning did more to Erza than any of Erza's previous opponents except for Irene is not wank. Saying that you would be happy if Laxus gave Gildarts an extreme diff is not wank. @GL_Nova is not even saying he thinks Laxus can give Gildarts an extreme difficulty fight. He's just saying he would be happy if he could. Wank is pretending that Erza held back against Laxus because Laxus' wounds healed quickly.

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you really dont see it, do you?
happy says laxus is probably second strongest because of his fight with natsu. its not 100% for even happy
first its a villian, i think this is from ff arc, villian hype is bs, normally meant to create suspense, nothing more. it was not just for springgans, but also for 7 kins. markrov was sure natsu counldnt beat zancrow. it means nothing more. that is jura hype as well, mira saw jura and made that claim. this is no difference than springgans ajeel vs fairy tail hype. you yourself will never believe if it wasnt for your special character laxus.
marakrov seems to have forgotten mystogan to bring back natsu, eventually i think sends erza, to bring back everyone

seriously! unbelievable
yes, pre skip erza stats vs gmg laxus stats
this is not pre skip erza stats vs pre skip laxus stats

please show me where it was proven that SO is better boost than three months training. shadow rouge says natsu above gajeel could mean natsu>gajeel but does not mean SO>three months


mystaogan cant even put erza to sleep in a fight. the interaction showed laxus like to boost about himself. nothing more. laxus wasnt actually shown awake when mystogan was present, he made that claim. he did background research on mystogan, he knew who mystogan was. he also had freed, who could actually help laxus here. mystagon in particular didnt want erza to find out, so most likely targeted her the most. but of course in your view, mystogan used to come to the guild and chat with sleepy marakrov about edolas, and that is how laxus found out.

Including one you did not address: Mirajane lacks confidence that she and Erza combined can take on Jura, whom Laxus beat.
no difference than any villian hype, marakrov didnt want natsu to fight zancrow, or fairy tail to fight against ajeel. if in gmg laxus was swapped with erza, nothing would change.

but i dont need to talk about any of these hypes, because erza has better feats than laxus and marakrov already stated that erza could take laxus back in ff arc, and mystogan also implied the same

Saying red lightning did more to Erza than any of Erza's previous opponents except for Irene is not wank.
yes it is, because reiko did nothing to erza. both she and laxus exhausted them self throughout the fight. so its a pure wank

Saying that you would be happy if Laxus gave Gildarts an extreme diff is not wank.
but implication is clear. this point implies that gap between pre ts laxus and gildart is same as the non existant gap between pre ts laxus and pre ts erza

Wank is pretending that Erza held back against Laxus because Laxus' wounds healed quickly
lol, i was literally trolling mate

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I don't think @sharkai is arguing against Laxus>=Erza. I think he means people try to make the gap seem bigger than what it is.

Because he is right, Reiko and HW cancelled each other out and both passed out from magical exhaustion.

na man its proven
reiko did more to erza than ajeel did, or those historia did or kyouko did

 

[WoWfan]

and Erza did damage Laxus with HW while empowered by Reiko

 

[Ramen]

reiko did more to erza than ajeel did, or those historia did or kyouko did

It's true, they put everything they had in this elast attacks but when cancelled out, passed out from no mp left

 

[WoWfan]

not before Laxus was injured though from her swords

 

[Ramen]

not before Laxus was injured though from her swords

He was

 

[Vis]

Silver stomps Deliora. So does Kyouka. Keith might not, but Keith died to Juvia.

Ur was probably on Erza's level at the beginning of the series given the similar hype they received. From what I can gather, Ur was getting stomped, which means Deliora would probably be able to do the same to Erza. Even if we peg Ur to be a tier below than what the series was selling, that still puts her around Natsu's level back then.

Assuming the hype was accurate, I don't think Kyouka can stomp that level unless she begins the fight going all out. Silver definitely can. Deliora's mindless but I don't think he was particularly weak, even compared to the demon gates.

Though he was definitely not on Mard Geer's level.

 

[Axiomus]

Not saying he isn't the strongest, but by comparison to his last opponent, he is still impressive

Who? Deliora? Fodder compared to current Natsu.

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you really dont see it, do you?
happy says laxus is probably second strongest because of his fight with natsu. its not 100% for even happy
first its a villian, i think this is from ff arc, villian hype is bs, normally meant to create suspense, nothing more. it was not just for springgans, but also for 7 kins. markrov was sure natsu counldnt beat zancrow. it means nothing more. that is jura hype as well, mira saw jura and made that claim. this is no difference than springgans ajeel vs fairy tail hype. you yourself will never believe if it wasnt for your special character laxus.
marakrov seems to have forgotten mystogan to bring back natsu, eventually i think sends erza, to bring back everyone

seriously! unbelievable
yes, pre skip erza stats vs gmg laxus stats
this is not pre skip erza stats vs pre skip laxus stats

please show me where it was proven that SO is better boost than three months training. shadow rouge says natsu above gajeel could mean natsu>gajeel but does not mean SO>three months


mystaogan cant even put erza to sleep in a fight. the interaction showed laxus like to boost about himself. nothing more. laxus wasnt actually shown awake when mystogan was present, he made that claim. he did background research on mystogan, he knew who mystogan was. he also had freed, who could actually help laxus here. mystagon in particular didnt want erza to find out, so most likely targeted her the most. but of course in your view, mystogan used to come to the guild and chat with sleepy marakrov about edolas, and that is how laxus found out.

Including one you did not address: Mirajane lacks confidence that she and Erza combined can take on Jura, whom Laxus beat.
no difference than any villian hype, marakrov didnt want natsu to fight zancrow, or fairy tail to fight against ajeel. if in gmg laxus was swapped with erza, nothing would change.

but i dont need to talk about any of these hypes, because erza has better feats than laxus and marakrov already stated that erza could take laxus back in ff arc, and mystogan also implied the same

Saying red lightning did more to Erza than any of Erza's previous opponents except for Irene is not wank.
yes it is, because reiko did nothing to erza. both she and laxus exhausted them self throughout the fight. so its a pure wank

Saying that you would be happy if Laxus gave Gildarts an extreme diff is not wank.
but implication is clear. this point implies that gap between pre ts laxus and gildart is same as the non existant gap between pre ts laxus and pre ts erza

Wank is pretending that Erza held back against Laxus because Laxus' wounds healed quickly
lol, i was literally trolling mate

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na man its proven
reiko did more to erza than ajeel did, or those historia did or kyouko did

What are you talking about?

Happy made that statement before Natsu even fought Laxus.

Mystogan never fought Erza, but he proved that he can put her to sleep.

There is no real difference between pre-timeskip Erza and Erza without second origin. Which means Erza without second origin is weaker than Laxus in all stats.

Still not addressing how Mirajane lacks confidence that she and Erza combined can take Jura, whom Laxus beat. Just excuses like "villain hype", as if that's supposed to mean something.

Lmao....How are you not getting this? Erza exhausted herself against Laxus and collapsed. Laxus did more to Erza than any of her previous opponents except for Irene, and that's just a fact. If you don't think the final imperial red lightning was what caused Erza to use the most MP to match, then it just means that Laxus other attacks did the job.