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Didn't August himself say there is zero chance without FH? I'm generous if I say Zeref, August and Eileen are even 5% Acnologia lol

FH Zeref was planning on firing unlimited Etherions to take down Acnologia. And a single Etherion > August and Eileen
Well, there's that too...but I'm trying to think of the best case scenario for Irene.

Actually Zeref's plan involves simply going back in time and killing doctor Acno.
 

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well you are the first one who said she didn't took damage in her human form even though she literally did and the fact that she reverted back to her human form against her will.


I disagree but regardless, a boost from a special flame can boost you up pretty high.
She never did as she would have to use magic to transform back. Every transformation has to be used with conscious effort and Irene's human for is a transformation. Is Natsu going to get KOed and revert to a fish bcs Lucy transformed into a fish once? Lol, her natural form is still her Dragon form which is pretty much stated by Zeref when she asked if she was happy about being human and Zeref stated she was still a Dragon.

Not that high. Every time Natsu ate something he could at least fight his opponent to a low diff before going down and when he beat them it wasn't a stompfest lol. Natsu could not even make Merc flinch and he was manhandling Merc to the point I thought it could be classified as animal abuse lmao.
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Merc is most likely the weakest bcs 1) he was the first DG they faced, 2) he easily got his magic taken by the WW, and 3) his half powered form got beat out by a fraction of Ignia's power lol.
 

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She never did as she would have to use magic to transform back. Every transformation has to be used with conscious effort and Irene's human for is a transformation. Is Natsu going to get KOed and revert to a fish bcs Lucy transformed into a fish once? Lol, her natural form is still her Dragon form which is pretty much stated by Zeref when she asked if she was happy about being human and Zeref stated she was still a Dragon.
ok that's a bad analogy my friend.

sigh my point is, she absolutely doesn't have attributes that a dragon has when she is in her human form.

power, strength or durability are NOT on the same level as her dragon form.

and she definitely reverted back to her human form against her will fam.

Not that high. Every time Natsu ate something he could at least fight his opponent to a low diff before going down and when he beat them it wasn't a stompfest lol. Natsu could not even make Merc flinch and he was manhandling Merc to the point I thought it could be classified as animal abuse lmao.
it does.

Golden Flames made him go DF, AF we got over it, Ignia's flames made him burn his hands and almost made him crazy.

it definitely does.
 

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If you compare the DGs to Sabertooth GMG Team, would it be fair to say Ignia-Sting, Merc-Rogue, Selene-Minerva, Viernes-Rufus, and Aldoron-Orga
Sure. I thought for a second you said DGs vs Sabertooth and I was gonna throw my phone
 

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ok that's a bad analogy my friend.

sigh my point, she absolutely doesn't have attribute that a dragon has when she is in her human form.

no power power, strength or durability increase.

and she definitely reverted back to her human form against her will fam.


it does.

Golden Flames made him go DF, AF we got over it, Ignia's flames made him burn his hand and almost made him crazy.

it definitely does.
It's not. Natsu's natural form is his human form and he was transformed by Lucy the same way Irene was transformed by Zeref. Yet when he goes out out of the transformation and into his natural form he won't go back to being a fish from getting beat up as he is in his natural state. She has to transform herself in order to turn herself back into a human. She does not have to transform herself to turn into a dragon as her Dragon form is her natural state. She made the conscious effort to return to Dragon form, she didn't get knocked out of it.

Golden Flames didn't let him stomp Zero and neither did AF flames against F.Rogue and MG. Yeah, they made him go crazy bcs they were like evil flames and powerful, but those flames wouldn't boost him to DG tier as he only ate a fraction of a DG's power lmao. Merc was just not that powerful when he was at half power. Any of the DG could have oneshotted him in that state as shown when Ignia Natsu was stomping him after eating Ignia's flames which he put nowhere near half his power in.
 

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FH Zeref was planning to remake the universe to make the world he desired
 

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It's not. Natsu's natural form is his human form and he was transformed by Lucy the same way Irene was transformed by Zeref. Yet when he goes out out of the transformation and into his natural form he won't go back to being a fish from getting beat up as he is in his natural state. She has to transform herself in order to turn herself back into a human. She does not have to transform herself to turn into a dragon as her Dragon form is her natural state. She made the conscious effort to return to Dragon form, she didn't get knocked out of it.
umm ok and this helps her how???

she is still human in all stats LOL.

and this definitely looks like she was knocked out against her will

so either she is dumb asf to go back to her human for no reason or she was knocked out against her will.

I believe it's the latter.

why even bother transforming into dragon if it's the same.

Golden Flames didn't let him stomp Zero and neither did AF flames against F.Rogue and MG. Yeah, they made him go crazy bcs they were like evil flames and powerful, but those flames wouldn't boost him to DG tier as he only ate a fraction of a DG's power lmao. Merc was just not that powerful when he was at half power. Any of the DG could have oneshotted him in that state as shown when Ignia Natsu was stomping him after eating Ignia's flames which he put nowhere near half his power in.
no but it made him WAY stronger.

besides, he didn't have FDK and DF combined back then.

current Natsu has FDK and DF on top of it all.

add flames of Igneel's off spring and he is bound to ge OP.

btw, where did people get that fraction part.

he took all that fire left by Ignia and it took him a few frames just to ate them all.
 

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umm ok and this helps her how???

she is still human in all stats LOL.

and this definitely looks like she was knocked out against her will

so either she is dumb asf to go back to her human for no reason or she was knocked out against her will.

I believe it's the latter.

why even bother transforming into dragon if it's the same.


no but it made him WAY stronger.

besides, he didn't have FDK and DF combined back then.

current Natsu has FDK and DF on top of it all.

add flames of Igneel's off spring and he is bound to ge OP.

btw, where did people get that fraction part.

he took all that fire left by Ignia and it took him a few frames just to ate them all.
She left the form as the fight was over. She hates that form so there would be no point in retaining it when Erza practically done. Also everyone in Alvarez was pretty much dumb asf which is why the arc was a mess.

But what does that matter? FDK is just a higher form of FD and he ad DF when he ate Jellal's flame lol. I'm not saying he didn't get stronger, but he went from not doing anything to Merc to stomping from a bit of Ignia's magic. There's no way that Ignia Natsu can fight on par with other DGs with only a bit of Ignia's magic. That would make Ignia several times stronger than the other DGs. Half powered Merc just wasn't that powerful which is why he got stomped with just a bit of Ignia's magic from Natsu. I have no doubt any of the other DG would have oneshotted a half powered Merc.

Do you think Ignia gave Natsu a lot of his MP from the flames? Those flames didn't look like it took anything out of Ignia to make so I doubt they had anything but a fraction of his actual magical power.
 

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umm ok and this helps her how???

she is still human in all stats LOL.

and this definitely looks like she was knocked out against her will

so either she is dumb asf to go back to her human for no reason or she was knocked out against her will.

I believe it's the latter.
How anyone can argue in good faith that "Eileen transformed back to human form willingly 'cause fight was over' ", from seeing this panel, is beyond me.
She obviously got knocked out of her dragon form, fucking crystal clear
 

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Irene was not knocked out, she is still standing
 
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You don't need to be beaten to revert back to your weaker form. This is common in any battle manga, particularly DB. It's abundantly clear she was forced back to her human form. She didn't willing change back and to suggest such is outright absurd. You see a massive sword slash from Erza that slices clean through Irene's dragon form to the point that blood spills out and then immediately after she's in her human form. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened, but obviously you guys like to wank the shit out of her so you come up with ludicrous theory after to ludicrous theory to suit your absurd agendas.
 

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Irene was not knocked out, she is still standing
What part of knocked out OF her dragon form do you not understand? Clearly there is a difference between : "knocked out of (insert) form" and knocked out!

Sayla knocked Mira out of her Sitri form. Was Mira knocked out for good? Of course not.
We see this quite often in other series as well. For eg, knocking out of SS form in dbz doesn't necessarily imply complete knock out, but it does indicate that the said person has been significantly weakened by damage.
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You don't need to be beaten to revert back to your weaker form. This is common in any battle manga, particularly DB. It's abundantly clear she was forced back to her human form. She didn't willing change back and to suggest such is outright absurd. You see a massive sword slash from Erza that slices clean through Irene's dragon form to the point that blood spills out and then immediately after she's in her human form. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what happened, but obviously you guys like to wank the shit out of her so you come up with ludicrous theory after to ludicrous theory to suit your absurd agendas.
Right?

The amount of mental gymnastics involved in wanking is freaking unbelievable lmao.
 

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Daily reminder that Gray fullbuster is a terrible character that should be killed by Aldoron.
 

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Daily reminder that Gray fullbuster is a terrible character that should be killed by Aldoron.
Your hate for Gray is something else. I think it may have surpassed Jko's hate for Jellal.
 

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Your hate for Gray is something else. I think it may have surpassed Jko's hate for Jellal.
Listen.......my hatred for terrible characters is justified. He should be killed ASAP.
 

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PoF is not still Erza lmao.

Since when did Jellal push Acno? Pretty sure he tried to and failed which is when BP ship came in. BP is also a ship which is the weakness for DS. This was all against a non amped Acnologia as well. RoT Acno was stated be on instinct and that he was going to destroy any potential threat to him without prejudice.
I have yet to see anyone knock Acno as far as Erza did either way while he was amped on RoT. RoT Dragon Acno > RoT Human/Spirit Acno and that Acno was literally not budging against the Dragon Slayers when they hit him lol. Only two powers from good side (that was alive) were above that hit Erza did on Acno and that was 7DS and SF lol.

She wasn't as she was still up and conscious and still able to fight. She had to kill herself to stop herself from furthering the fight. Her natural state is clearly her Dragon form and she made a conscious effort to go back into her human transformation.
It is Erza. And POF isn't something measurable anyway. All we know is, at the end of the day, that is Erza. And POF isn't near as big as an actual powerup. Like DF, dragon flames, or FDKM is for Natsu.

Jellal pushed Acno back significantly, got him very near the time rift before Acno grabbed Jellal. The ship did the rest.
Ok? Erza isn't a threat to Acno and so ROT Acno didn't comprehend Erza by instinct. He's without consciousness.

Yeah, Erza pushed down an unconscious Acnologia, FROM BEHIND. Requires much less effort, compared to Makarov, Jellal and BP ship pushing a conscious Acno AGAINST his force FROM FRONT.

Dude, she got one shotted OUT OF her dragon form. Doesn't mean she's completely out cold! It's the same as Sayla one shotting Mira out of her Sitri form. How is this hard to understand?
 
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@Axiomus Yes it probably does, however, my hatred for Gray doesn't even come close to @Jean Grey hatred for Natsu back in 2016 and hatred for Zeref
 

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It is Erza. And POF isn't something measurable anyway. All we know is, at the end of the day, that is Erza. And POF Erza isn't near as strong as an actual powerup. Like DF, dragon flames, or FDKM is for Natsu.

Jellal pushed Acno back significantly, got him very near the time rift before Acno grabbed Jellal. The ship did the rest.
Ok? Erza isn't a threat to Acno and so ROT Acno didn't comprehend Erza by instinct. He's without consciousness. PoF >>> transformations and power ups. We already know PoF is the

Yeah, Erza pushed down an unconscious Acnologia, FROM BEHIND. Requires much less effort, compared to Makarov, Jellal and BP ship pushing a conscious Acno AGAINST his force FROM FRONT.

Dude, she got one shotted OUT OF her dragon form. Doesn't mean she's completely out cold! It's the same as Sayla one shotting Mira out of her Sitri form. How is this hard to understand?
PoF Erza feats crap on current Erza's feat and literally everyone FT members current feat. PoF Erza was only second to PoF Natsu by feats. PoF being immeasurable has nothing to do with the argument that PoF Erza is infinitely stronger than non PoF Erza. PoF is literally the strongest power up there is and that was shown in the final chapter where powered up God tiers were oneshotted bcs of PoF. DF was utterly garbage to Natsu's PoF state lmao.

He didn't tho lol. He tried to push him a couple inches into the time rift and failed. It requires way more energy to push an enhanced Acnologia that is actually using his powers indiscriminately to kill threats to himself. He wasn't unconscious as he was using his instinct to fight. His instinct self doesn't play with his food lol. Also pushing an opponent that is flying up downwards is infinitely harder than pushing him sidewards as he is actively pushing himself up to fly in the first place. You would actually have to go against him gravity versus him not resisting anything. Acno that Erza was fighting was way more powerful than Acno that Jellal fought and the Acno she fought was using his powers indiscriminately unlike Acno who is known to hold back against people he views as ants.
RoT Acno didn't comprehend Erza as a threat which is why he was following her magical power. It was the reason he followed them to Hargeon bcs he was following the Highest concentration of MP he could feel and it was stated to be the reason he went to Magnolia in the first place.
Mira could barely move while Irene still had her strength and MP to kill Erza which is why she murdered herself. Oh and Mira transforms to become a Demon, but her natural form is her human form while Irene transforms to be a human and her natural form is her Dragon form. Your analogy doesn't work since her Dragon form is not a transformation.
We had an entire subplot on this. Irene is not human at all as she is a Dragon and Dragons transform into human forms not the other way around. Once you become a Dragon that is your natural state not a transformation.
 
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