Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

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MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10


Good Votes!
 
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Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween
 
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呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

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Collab poster by Kishimoto
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Talking about influences, stye, legacy, etc..
What do you guys consider each author's style? Areyou talking how they structure the stories? The art?

For example @Tamil you mention that perhaps Kubo had an influence on Gotouge, and Kubo himself had a HUGE influence from Masami Kuruamda's works (Saint Seiya basically) I suspected this pretty much since Idk... 2005-ish, the Soul Society is pretty much the Twelve Houses arc in Saint Seiya redone in a more modern setting, Kubo Tite then confirmed that one of his biggest manga influences was Saint Seiya..

So Gotouge would have been influenced by Kurumada (perhaps even indirectly, perhaps Gotoge doesn't even know Kurumada's works).

I haven't read KnY but this character always kinda resembled Shaka to me.
I think the KnY character is a Pillar, Shaka is a Gold Saint (Basically Saint Seiya's pillars).

Anyway talking about styles, I think Oda's style is world building and leaving more mysteries than actually answering them.. Also he has a way to make the plot get a sentimental ending even after battles end.

Kishimoto I dunno, for me his plot structure was always about giving characters motivations/flashbacks during fights, I dunno if anyone here has watched/read Yowamushi Pedal but it's kinda similar in that they are in the middle of a super epic biking race and suddenly you get a flashback with said characters motivations.

As for Tite, as I said he pretty much copied Saint Seiya's formula for a new generation, but added some cool plot mysteries in Soul Society. His style is also kinda reminiscent of Saint Seiya, not in a very intuitive way, like they draw nothing alike, but the way both Kurumada and Tite draw each character's actions (Big cool looking poses, little dialogue, big emphasis on the characters sometimes without backgrounds..) BTW Takeshi Konomi of Prince of Tennis pretty much also kinda got influences by Kurumada's Ring Ni Kakero.

Horikoshi.. I'd guess was perhaps influenced by Oda in the art style and maybe Naruto in the plot? Seems like MHA is a mix of both to me.

Those are the WSJ artists that I remember right now, obviously Hokuto No Ken had a huuuuge influence on titles from the 80s, e.g. Jojo, then Jojo had huuuge influences on other titles like Shaman King, Yu-Gi-Oh! etc.. So it's kinda like a baton pass in a sense.
Good catch, I always forget SS. SS influenced a lot with that trope of having the strongest warriors that form part of an organization, group or whatever that will fight/help the protagonist and also share the same goal as the mc.

Dunno if there's another series before ss started this but I think SS set it up.

Pillars and gold saints have so much in common.
 

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I figured Kimetsu's habit of giving tragic backstories and flashbacks during fights to every character even the villains could be inspired by Naruto or One Piece
That sounds more like Naruto than One Piece to me, very few villians in One Piece actually get flashbacks during fights..
 

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Were there any series before Naruto that would always give the villains a backstory in the middle of a fight?
 

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In regards to MHA, the inspiration is so heavily based on American Comics, wouldn't something inspired by MHA be better off taking inspiration from American Comics as well?
Rather than taking inspiration from western comics, I would say there's a more likely possibility to take inspiration from western media in general. I would be up for a savage parody of Twilight in a romcom. Also, I think I have one idea that Horikoshi will inspire future mangaka with.

Developing the villains concurrently with the protagonists throughout the story. Honestly, that was a groundbreaking idea when Horikoshi went ahead with it by dedicating a single arc to the villains. While some may be divided over that arc, I feel that's the one that will inspire newbies to try a hand at it.

In terms of character writing, Endeavor is going to be a really high bar to clear.

MHA will definitely leave behind a legacy. Like people have said, it's already inspiring new series and that will be its legacy. Also, think MHA's legacy is the fusion of western superhero influences into a mainstream manga/anime.

KNY's legacy is something that needs to be seen 10 years from now because of the likelihood that the series will end this year.
Death Note was a super short series but its widely viewed as an important series in manga history. KNY's explosion is very much like Death Note's but the impact it will leave behind needs to be studied at a later date.
Huh. Now that you mention it, I really do think KnY will have a Death Note-esque legacy in the end.
 

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What the most obscure influence on the modern series? Can't help but feel like we're missing something..
a lot of newcomers say Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoi yo!! Masaru-san is their favorite manga
it's not really obscure just more popular in Japan than outside it
 
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In case you guys want to know how bad Covid-19 has gotten on the anime industry:


From the sounds of it, we won't be getting any new anime for like, at all, for the rest of the year. For current ongoing anime, it might be possible to air episodes intermittently, like a few new episodes every 2 weeks or so.
 

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In case you guys want to know how bad Covid-19 has gotten on the anime industry:


From the sounds of it, we won't be getting any new anime for like, at all, for the rest of the year. For current ongoing anime, it might be possible to air episodes intermittently, like a few new episodes every 2 weeks or so.
Sometimes I tell myself how lucky were KnY, Dr stone, Neverland and We never learn. Being the newest batch to get an anime adaptation, airing in the time scheduled without any of this craziness behind.
 

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WSJ anime this is likely to impact I guess would be

One Piece (airing now, delayed)
Food Wars s5 (airing now, delayed)
Haikyuu s4 part 2 (planned for Summer)
Neverland s2 (planned for Autumn)
Dragon Quest Dai (planned for this year, probably Autumn?)
Kimetsu no Yaiba movie (planned for Autumn)

other announced series with unknown airdates that could be impacted

Jujutsu Kaisen
My Hero Academia s5
Dr Stone s2
World Trigger s2

And I'm guessing that we also probably won't see Act-age or Chainsawman anime announcements this year either.
 

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WSJ anime this is likely to impact I guess would be

One Piece (airing now, delayed)
Food Wars s5 (airing now, delayed)
Haikyuu s4 part 2 (planned for Summer)
Neverland s2 (planned for Autumn)
Dragon Quest Dai (planned for this year, probably Autumn?)
Kimetsu no Yaiba movie (planned for Autumn)

other announced series with unknown airdates that could be impacted

Jujutsu Kaisen
My Hero Academia s5
Dr Stone s2
World Trigger s2

And I'm guessing that we also probably won't see Act-age or Chainsawman anime announcements this year either.
Dragon Quest Dai was confirmed for a Fall 2020 airing, and anime are still being announced at the moment, so we might get an Act-Age anime announcement at Jump Festa. Though everything that's scheduled for 2020 may very well be airing in 2021 instead, depending on the network they air in, among other things.
 

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Who knows if this year Jump festa will be postponed. Almost every event around the world have been delayed or postponed.
 

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WSJ anime this is likely to impact I guess would be

One Piece (airing now, delayed)
Food Wars s5 (airing now, delayed)
Haikyuu s4 part 2 (planned for Summer)
Neverland s2 (planned for Autumn)
Dragon Quest Dai (planned for this year, probably Autumn?)
Kimetsu no Yaiba movie (planned for Autumn)

other announced series with unknown airdates that could be impacted

Jujutsu Kaisen
My Hero Academia s5
Dr Stone s2
World Trigger s2

And I'm guessing that we also probably won't see Act-age or Chainsawman anime announcements this year either.
MHA S5 is most likely to air in Spring 2021, even in normal scheduling. On the surface, it is the least likely to be impacted by Covid-19. However, there may be some delayed animes/programming that will try to get that timeslot in Spring, which may mean pushing back season a little bit.
 

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Doesn't Ufo do most of their production in house? Like they don't outsource to China/Korea? If that's the case it won't be impacted as much compared to others.

I was confident that we will get a part 6 announcement this year, while it's just an announcement it could be delayed as well since there's a lot of uncertainty with COVID-19. Also the same with Act Age...
 

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Weekly Sales by Series - 4/13~4/19

#1
Kimetsu no Yaiba - 1,044,989
#2
Gotoubun no Hanayome - 345,521
#3
Detective Conan - 236,550
#4
One Piece - 198,080
#5
Shingeki no Kyojin - 183,360
#6
Kaguya-sama: Love is War - 160,346
#7
Kingdom - 137,406
#8
Haikyuu!! - 92,755
#9
The Promised Neverland - 83,038
#10
My Hero Academia - 81,419

Kimetsu no Yaiba's 2020 sales: 38,191,494

Kimetsu no Yaiba has officially surpassed One Piece to become the best-selling manga in Oricon within a fiscal year.
 
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Since KNY has sold 38 million in 2020, 12 million in 2019 and a little less than 2.7 million in the 2016-2018 period, adding to a sum of almost 53 million, the next time we get circulation numbers, they should be around 60-65 million. That's an even bigger jump when compared to the print numbers difference between volume 18's release and volume 19's release (25 million to 40 million).
 

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It was fun at first but now it's just the same every week.
 
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