Games Mafia Game 82 - Yu-Gi-Oh! - End Game

[Elusia]

And now, the moment you've all been waiting for.

First, the playerlist:

And the game actions:

Spoiler: Day and Night Actions

D1: N/A
N1:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> desin24 >>> success!

Priority 2
Demonspeed (Sane Det) >>> Holt >>> success! >>> innocent
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> Takuan >>> success! >>> guilty
MarmaladeSky (Investigator) >>> N/A
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Holt >>> success! >>> gets nothing
James Rye (Spirit Medium) >>> N/A
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> BD_Beno >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> BD_Beno >>> success! >>> Spy

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Holt >>> fails!
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> MarmaladeSky >>> success!

D2: N/A
N2:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> Holt >>> success!

Priority 2
Demonspeed (Sane Det) >>> Asako >>> success! >>> guilty (still dead tho. rip)
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> Demonspeed >>> success! >>> guilty
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Juviii >>> success! >>> targeted Holt
James Rye (Spirit Medium) >>> N/A
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> James Rye >>> success! (nice)
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> Juviii >>> success! >>> Prostitute

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Demonspeed >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> James Rye >>> fails!

D3: N/A
N3:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> GrySun >>> fails!

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> GrySun >>> success! >>> innocent!
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> Belserion >>> success! >>> gets nothing
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> Seraph >>> Fails!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> MUIMadara >>> success! >>> Doctor

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> Seraph >>> success! (the power of the strongman for ya lol)
Asako (Serial Killer) >>> N/A

D4:
Evil3ye got lynched in D2. He comes back in D4. (welcome back!)
Holt uses Prosecutor role on DD. It fails as he died from the cowboy card (press F)

N4:

Priority 1
Juviii (Prostitute) >>> N/A

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> MUIMadara >>> success! >>> guilty
BD_Beno (Spy) >>> GrySun >>> fails due to cointoss!
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> BD_Beno >>> success!
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> Evil3ye >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Juviii >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A
GrySun (M. Strongman) >>> N/A

D5: N/A
N5:

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> desin24 >>> success! >>> innocent
Takuan (Sane Doc) >>> BlackTiger >>> success!
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> digitaldude >>> success!
digitaldude (M. Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> N/A
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Takuan >>> success!

D6: N/A
N6:

Priority 2:
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> N/A
MUIMadara (Sane Doc) >>> N/A

Priority 3
Gajeel (M. Boss) >>> Evil3ye >>> success!
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> N/A

D7: N/A
N7:

Priority 2
BlackTiger (Insane Det) >>> N/A

Priority 3
desin24 (M. Janitor) >>> Blacktiger >>> success! (congrats!)

In conclusion: lol mechanic.
If you guys want the Card and SC day/night actions, ask @uberfayt \o/
Thanks for playing!


Co-host thoughts coming soon!

 

[GrySun]

I am here, will vote before the end .

You backreading?

 

[Demonspeed]

Are you gonna hint before the end too?

Probably not.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 4, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 4, 2020 ---

You backreading?

Yes. Didn't get as much time as I hoped.

 

[GrySun]

I'm feeling more like voting Holt if he doesn't come back.

 

[digitaldude]

Belserion, desin, blacktiger and juvii who is the most suspicious hmmm...

 

[Evil3ye]

I expected a lot more "bandwagoning" to get points, from both town and mafia. Yet many already locked their votes. Us getting lucky and lynching a non-town D1 isn't impossible but unlikely, so at least mafia would benefit from being on the top voted player. Atm looking at Evil and desin for this, Seraph was the first vote so doesn't count for this line of thought.

Most inactive players are Holt(1) and BlackTiger(4), though after them there's a bunch of people with ~6-10 posts, not that much more. Holt's post was long but he did voice himself on some things that happened before he came. BlackTiger had only 1 post where he suspects someone, when he voted.

Marm and Bel playing mostly the same, distant and observing, no comments on most things happening. I don't really see why Bel has majority of votes.

Desin supported Evil, saying he has more problems with the later attackers than the first ones, trusts Takuan, Suspects me and Juviii in another post. Then many hours later votes up Bel to apply pressure.

Muimadara way of posting is strange, I recall seeing him in the forum write much bigger posts than the few one-liners he does here. Nervous?

Gajeel and Panda only talked about the system but nothing else.

Asako was consistent on Takuan and stated her thoughts. I agree with her that Taku's attack and play was safe-play, and the role sacrifice could be a reaction to it like "safe? ok how about this reckless move then!" but I trust him for now.

Juviii focusing only on Muimadara as a newbie, when there's also BlackTiger(he played 1 game but should still count as a beginner), but then voting dd(not locking immediately like others, worth mentioning).

Not sure what to think of James, none of his posts stood out from how he usually does things, apart from a lack of early hinting(which nobody is doing this game). He did use the final lvl3 attack on Evil however, so depending on what Evil is could say a lot about James.

Demon is on max observing mode this game, I don't like it. Also asked Takuan for his role couple of times, saying he'll also give hints later but then nothing.

dd random. His attack makes no sense, otherwise talking about system.

Beno is super active, very different playstyle than his mafia games before. Commented most of what happened and his thoughts. This is like night and day. Most likely town, I'd be impressed if he was still mafia. If he was TP he'd prolly keep the mafia playstyle.

Evil I've commented before. First to attack, with a lvl 3 that I believe there's few to no benefits to town using it early, and nobody else wanted to touch the other lvl 3 for a reason. Votes Bel as 2nd person on her. I don't think his vote is strange, though there's more people playing pretty similar to Bel.

Seraph is talking a lot. He does that as mafia too, but he seems a lot more calm this time. Didn't even flinch at all the attacks his way. Strangely defends Juviii in one post saying no point pressuring, when pressuring is always a good thing and gives reactions. Claims to not have an important role, but doesn't sacrifice it for starchips now that we see the cards

It's true that other player such as Holt, Marmalade and Tiger had similar playstyle and are looking just as incriminating. I don't think lynching any of them would be a loss at this point.

Why I chose Bela is, I confronted her twice after, and there was no correction in behaviour, still some non-expressive lines of talking, nothing that shows any positions. Same with Holt, but much later, who came and said he was sick.

The other two (or more who I forgot) went under my radar, but I'm also don't see myself alone responsible to call everyone out here.

 

[Asako]

There a difference between suspicious and bandwagon
Anways I don't like the fact that both bel and blacktiger are one of the tops
Well for bel I don't really see much suspension that people claim to see
For blacktiger feel bad remember he died early last game

 

[Evil3ye]

Belserion, desin, blacktiger and juvii who is the most suspicious hmmm...

Yeah, desin too. Always under radar, and I always think he's mafia due to so little postings made.

 

[uberfayt]

8 minutes left​

 

[Demonspeed]

I think Taku is probably Town, I don't think he'd like to be under the spotlight so early and his reasoning makes sense to me, but the thing that bugged me is that he asked how his chips should be used. Seems like a way to get Town's trust after getting more chips than most.

James is still using the same tactic despite the recent game experiences. Evil, Gry and DD don't stand out to me, same for Seraph, he always votes Bel D1.

I am voting either Asako or BlackTiger. Asako's posts seem too "safe" to me(jumping on Taku, then talking about teamwork and stuff), BlackTiger also just jumped on Taku and gave basic explanations.

For this DP I will Votelock Asako.

 

[Seraph]

8 minutes left?... Oh dear Heart of the Cards guide this Town to the right path.

 

[Holt]

I'm feeling more like voting Holt if he doesn't come back.

I'm partly here. Otw to get some meds. I did mention earlier that I'm ill.

Votelock juvii

 

[Evil3ye]

Lot of unlocked votes and some people who haven't voted. Interesting to see if there will be some last minute rescues and what color will be that will be lynched as a result.

 

[GrySun]

What kinda sucks is that not many are here for the end of the phase. Imo great townplay could be before getting lynched to reveal role, sacrifice it, give starchips(last step is the most optional) and then die. A good role is kept in the pool if we need it, though it depends on the role list whether that's useful as they're only reborn for 1 phase.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 4, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 4, 2020 ---

I'm partly here. Otw to get some meds. I did mention earlier that I'm ill.

Votelock juvii

Again, any reason for voting Juviii?

 

[Asako]

Votelock desin
To me at least he seem like a good choice, better than the others

 

[GrySun]

!votelock Holt

 

[Evil3ye]

What kinda sucks is that not many are here for the end of the phase. Imo great townplay could be before getting lynched to reveal role, sacrifice it, give starchips(last step is the most optional) and then die. A good role is kept in the pool if we need it, though it depends on the role list whether that's useful as they're only reborn for 1 phase.

--- Double Post Merged, Jun 4, 2020, Original Post Date: Jun 4, 2020 ---

Again, any reason for voting Juviii?

Mafia can use the sacrified roles as well, and there's no one trustworthy to give chips to yet.

 

[uberfayt]

@Copy Panda gotta vote

 

[Asako]

I feel like taku is trustworthy after what happen with the sacrifice tho

 

[GrySun]

Mafia can use the sacrified roles as well, and there's no one trustworthy to give chips to yet.

There should only be very few town roles worth taking for Mafia no? Doubt they'd care for a Doc or Det for example, since it's 1-time use.

 

[Copy Panda]

I guess I'll pull my weight and review the cards

1p, 15q

2p, 10q

These will be decent late game since they're cheap and level 1 attack especially is very economical to cast

3p, 5q

A bit on the expensive side, mostly a mafia card I feel, players who really need the protection to advance their game state. A decent alternative to jammer jutsu though

3p, 3q

How does the caster of this spell card determine what trap they want to target? Do they necessarily know who has a trap card? If the target doesn't have a trap card, does this misfire or not fire? @uberfayt

5p, 1q

Likely the best card.

5p, 2q

To use this, you have to be roleless which is harsh but spicy condition. I guess one uses the below mask jutsu to prevent someone from getting to this card?

6p, 3q

Unless the role you recover is your own, it's one-time use... Does this mean that we could potentially use say mafia detective if for whatever reason they decide to get rid of their role? Like, does the caster of reborn see what the options are? Since only sacrificed roles go here, that means that only useless roles and mafia members who were spicy enough to sac themselves end up here, limiting the utility of this card to an extent.

1p, 3q

Interesting card, do the hosts suspect self-sacrifice will be a big deal this game? They're cheap but also low quantity, meaning that it should be possible to snipe players on the chopping block. On the other hand, the low quantity makes it an easy to monopolize card.

2p, 2q

What does 'role sacrifice had no effect' mean? Do role sacrifices come with effects? In any case, more of a late-game card.

5p, 2q

If someone is targeted by the cowboy jutsu, does that mean their card doesn't activate at all? Or that it does, but misfires (so, 'negated')? A bit expensive since you can get a cheaper trap to protect you from attacks, whilst there aren't that many harmful spells (preventing someone from sacrificing their role, stealing their chips etc. are kinda useless), the only scary ones being the cowboy cards that besides chips will basically always cost a life.

What's concerning is that besides these cards, we can freely block each other (if there are three attacks, that means town can rather liberally decide to block out one other person from acting) and hand each other points (Stacking points on confirmed townies to turn them into a banker townie sounds fun).

I'd delve a bit deeper into starchip economy but my break is almost over, so I'll close the post with some thoughts

Desin, Sera and Evil all attacked Ishtar, which for Rin related reasons, is unacceptable. Belse is quite smart but also very slippery, so given her threat level maybe not entirely unwarranted to take her out of the game. Personally though, I'd prefer taking out one of the noobs. Both of them appear to be suspicious of me, one of them even called me a noob I think (!) but most importantly, mafia statistics say that when a bunch of noobs play, one of them has to be mafia. Given the voting situation, therefore, I'll vote to kill Tiger. Tigers eat panda's right? He has to go.

votekill BlackTiger