Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2020] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[Shinuki no Reborn]

MANGAHELPERS "TOC" POLL ISSUE #51 - VOTING!​

The poll for issue #51 is now open, vote for your favorite chapters of the week clicking HERE!

Alongside the release of Sakamoto Days, the extra series this week are:

-Dragon Ball Super 66
-Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 52
-Ghost Reaper Girl 10

Good Votes!

 

[Halloween]

Moderator Notice:
Henceforth, I will be deleting posts that complain about Weekly Shonen Jump having too many/not enough gag/battle/exorcism/sports/etc series.

These posts are not insightful, and do not meaningfully contribute to this thread. Also, this decision is not up for discussion, so posts discussing this decision will also be deleted.~ Halloween

 

[Ryuusei]

Spoiler: 52 TOC & 01 Preview

呪 僕 O マ ブ S C D 破 C B 夜 C 僕 あ 灼 ぼ チ 高 ア 森 A 仄 ぼ 次号カラー ヒロアカ アンデラ 夜桜 約ネバ 道産子 GIGA 岸本先生が描くコラボポスター 爆豪クリアファイル

Spoiler: Issue #52 ToC & Preview

Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover & LCP)
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Mashle
Black Clover
Sakamoto Days (CP)
Dr. Stone
Magu-chan: God of Destruction (CP)
Build King
Mission: Yozakura Family
Me & Roboco
Ayakashi Triangle (CP)
Shakunetsu no Niraikanai
We Never Learn
Chainsaw Man
Koukousei Kazoku
Undead Unluck
Moriking
Agravity Boys
Honomieru Shounen
Bokura no Ketsumei

Issue #1
Cover & LCP: My Hero Academia
CP: Undead Unluck, Mission: Yozakura Family, The Promised Neverland, Dosanko Gyaru wa Namaramenkoi

GIGA Preview
Collab poster by Kishimoto
Bakugou clear file

 

[Xzone]

What I mean is that we consider OBO dead because of the low position. So the same goes for HFS.

OBO isn't a gag series and have a normal number of pages(20). HFS have less pages that others series(even other gag series).
We talk about HFS possibility to survive and not about OBO surviving because we have cases like HFS while we never have seen a case like OBO.
I remember battle shonen having bad rankings and then improving after their first ranking and also series dropping their ranking slowly until he go to the bottom 3 (and getting axed after that) but I don't remember an action series being in last place and surviving because it have a fixed position like Jaguar.
Yeah, it could survive and HSF don't, but right now we doesn't have nothing to prove that unlike HSF that it may be(and I'm saying may because we don't know)

 

[Stivie]

OBO isn't a gag series and have a normal number of pages(20). HFS have less pages that others series(even other gag series).
We talk about HFS possibility to survive and not about OBO surviving because we have cases like HFS while we never have seen a case like OBO.
I remember battle shonen having bad rankings and then improving after their first ranking and also series dropping their ranking slowly until he go to the bottom 3 (and getting axed after that) but I don't remember an action series being in last place and surviving because it have a fixed position like Jaguar.
Yeah, it could survive and HSF don't, but right now we doesn't have nothing to prove that unlike HSF that it may be(and I'm saying may because we don't know)

Excuse.

But it is because of this type of narrative that Moriking and Agravity boys are still alive today, even with sales falling.

I know that manga like HSF has different treatment, but this statement that it can stay on the Bottom that has no problem can also be used by other series and this through the beginning of manga that could have better sales.

 

[taqzer]

Regarding HSF and it being the same as Isobe
That shouldn't be the case. I distinctly remember Isobe having gone on for around a year (at least a year I can't remember so well, might have been going for two or just less than a year) and then it had an announcement in the magazine, I think it got a colour page on that chapter as well and then lots of the author comments for that issue were congratulating the manga for getting the back spot in the mag (unranked) although they didn't exactly call it that. Also, a post discussing that event happened in the WSJ thread from that time period. Someone could go check but yeah I couldn't be bothered, but like I said I do remember it happening. As in no, I don't think I dreamed that up.

 

[Xzone]

Excuse.

But it is because of this type of narrative that Moriking and Agravity boys are still alive today, even with sales falling.

I know that manga like HSF has different treatment, but this statement that it can stay on the Bottom that has no problem can also be used by other series and this through the beginning of manga that could have better sales.

It's not excuses , we are saying that one series in the bottom5 have more posibility than other because past cases.
Also Agravity and Moriking are still alive like past series like cross manage, STARS,Magico or Omagadomi Zoo survived arround 40 chapters ... They were lucky and got serialize in a good moment.

 

[Tamil]

Spoiler: KNY #23 (Cover)

Even though I wanted a group cover this is still a great cover. Also, having 120 million print & S2 announcement on the volume jacket would be nice

 

[savethecat]

Hmmm I’m in the camp that HSF isn’t a back of the magazine protected series.
Mainly because it feels likes it’s been getting placed all over the place like any other series so far, and I’d imagine they would have sat it right at the back consistently by now if it was getting the “can’t get cancelled, survey don’t matter” treatment.

That, and it doesn’t seem like we’ve had one of those in a while. And we have a completely different EiC since Isobee started, and Nak seems to have just been having the Gags duke it out in his run. A “No gag getting the unaxeable treatment. Only the best gag wins” attitude.

A still agree that that back of the magazine isn’t as bad for it as other series. I think what matter more is how it fairs against the other gags/comedy series, in placements and sales.

 

[revo68]

Not Jump related

but...

Inagaki Riichiro (Eyeshield 21; Dr. STONE) will start a new series in Shogakukan's Big Comic Superior Issue #01 (Dec 11th) titled Trillion Game with Ikegami Ryoichi (Sanctuary; Crying Freeman)

Inagaki Riichiro will be doing the story while Ikegami Ryoichi will be handling the art

 

[savethecat]

Not Jump related

but...

Inagaki Riichiro (Eyeshield 21; Dr. STONE) will start a new series in Shogakukan's Big Comic Superior Issue #01 (Dec 11th) titled Trillion Game with Ikegami Ryoichi (Sanctuary; Crying Freeman)

Inagaki Riichiro will doing the story while Ikegami Ryoichi will be handling the art

Always wondered why we didn’t see stuff like this more with Japanese mangaka.

In American Comics we see so many writers like Rick Remender writing like like 5 different comics at once. Then again I’ve seen this a bit with light Novels.

Anyway, excited to check out another Inagaki series. I wonder if we’ll every see a writer that’s writing 2 series in Jump, with different artist on each.

 

[Neala897]

Always wondered why we didn’t see stuff like this more with Japanese mangaka.

Because majority mangakas are also artist? For example

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

Jujutsu Kaisen is going to have spanish dub in Crunchyroll (Dr.Stone had the same new some weeks ago)

 

[Stivie]

Hmmm I’m in the camp that HSF isn’t a back of the magazine protected series.
Mainly because it feels likes it’s been getting placed all over the place like any other series so far, and I’d imagine they would have sat it right at the back consistently by now if it was getting the “can’t get cancelled, survey don’t matter” treatment.

That, and it doesn’t seem like we’ve had one of those in a while. And we have a completely different EiC since Isobee started, and Nak seems to have just been having the Gags duke it out in his run. A “No gag getting the unaxeable treatment. Only the best gag wins” attitude.

A still agree that that back of the magazine isn’t as bad for it as other series. I think what matter more is how it fairs against the other gags/comedy series, in placements and sales.

In this gag war created by Nakano, Roboko and magu chan are the winners, with good sales with the right to reprint. So, with this scenario I see no need to have HSF (I apologize to those who like the series).
But if HSF has good sales then beauty, the series can stay in any position that the publishers want.

 

[Aipom626]

Hopefully those Magu-chan reprints will start restocking the shelves ASAP so it can rebuild the momentum it had when it was first released. WSJ kind of shot itself in the foot with the initial print count since the demand clearly exceeded the supply. Yozakura appears to be having stock issues as well with the drop that big.

Glad Magu-chan is out of the bottom 5, a bit surprised to see Moriking escaping as well, but good for Roboco ranking so high. Plus, sticking Yozakura's CP in between 2 highly-followed series in the magazine will hopefully help it gain some more fans.

EDIT: Magu-chan is already back down to saying it only has 15 copies left on Amazon with more coming in stock.

 

[savethecat]

Jujutsu Kaisen is going to have spanish dub in Crunchyroll (Dr.Stone had the same new some weeks ago)

English Dub coming November 20th

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2020/11/11/crunchyroll-announces-jujutsu-kaisen-noblesse-and-more-fall-2020-season-dubs

 

[ItsSamu]

What a funny TOC.

• Me & Roboco back up at 4th place! Nice! I wonder where it'll average out by the end of the 2020 year (likely 6th place?).
• Seeing the last 4 series batch all doing well in one issue is surprising.
• Magu-chan and Moriking out of the bottom 5 is pretty impressive, but the latter is definitely on the way out considering where the story is going.
• Undead Unluck is quite low this week but obviously doesn't mean much.
• Not sure where I stand on the High School Family argument yet if it's getting special treatment but obviously not a brilliant place to be if it isn't yet operating at Isobee levels.
• Our Blood Oath being dead last is... not surprising. Very much feels like an U19 series.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

So Build King will not get the lead color page for chapter 2 like Toriko? I guess is a flop, Nakano isnt confident enough

Yozakura color page hype, placed really high this time compared to last one. Some very surprusing jumps with Magu-chan and Moriking, imagine if Hasegawa pulls off another Spring Weapon always jumping out of the bottom when it was cancelation time, i remember always getting angry at the time kkkk.

Cop and Dolphin keeping "stable", Jump should give another color page, the only series that didnt got a color page for the volume released.

Not worried in the slightest about Kokosei, Bokura is expected with the first chapters.

I would have trade that simple cp next week for a lead in the #49, but hqppy for Black Clover

 

[Koni]

English Dub coming November 20th

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2020/11/11/crunchyroll-announces-jujutsu-kaisen-noblesse-and-more-fall-2020-season-dubs

So I just looked at the casting for the Jujutsu Kaisen dub, and I'm absolutely having my mind blown by the fact that Yuji is being voiced by Adam McArthur. AKA the voice of Marco from Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil. It's honestly kind of surreal. Man jumped from a popular Disney show (that ended terribly) to goddamn anime.

 

[savethecat]

So I just looked at the casting for the Jujutsu Kaisen dub, and I'm absolutely having my mind blown by the fact that Yuji is being voiced by Adam McArthur. AKA the voice of Marco from Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil. It's honestly kind of surreal. Man jumped from a popular Disney show (that ended terribly) to goddamn anime.

To be completely honest I would imagine voicing for a Crunchyroll Dub of an anime is probably a lower paying gig than a Disney tv series lol

 

[Ryuusei]

What a funny TOC.

• Me & Roboco back up at 4th place! Nice! I wonder where it'll average out by the end of the 2020 year (likely 6th place?).

It depends. If we're counting series that have already finished (Kimetsu no Yaiba, The Promised Neverland, Haikyuu!! and Burn the Witch), then it'll be lower, probably rounding out the top 10. If we're talking about series that are still running in the magazine, then it's 5th place as of now.

 

[Pietro]

Undead
Roboco
Good to hear about cop and dolphin and meglio chan higher
Hope agravity will be higher soon too

 

[savethecat]

Because majority mangakas are also artist? For example

I’m talking specifically the ones that are just writers. I’m not including the ones who do art and story