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Mashle was so over the top and stupid I loved it. Good for Yozakura to spice things up with the matchups. Sakamoto Days had some nice info dump and hype given to us, good that we've got a proper overarching plot for now. Cop and Dolphin had quite the text walls in the first half, but made for it in the second half. Phantom Seer is keeping the quality, looking forward to how they deal with this.

Elusive Samurai has really improved with each chapter to me, this last chapter have given what the series needed. I tell C is still quite "ball to the wall" right now, but it still got me hooked. Witch Watch is such a nice read and comfy read, tho Shinahara does love his HxH references, not that I complain. Kowloon improved from last week, definitely a better chapter than the previous one.
 

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Witch Watch feels like it's releasing out of order, even as an episodic series it's especially lacking in any sense of week to week cohesion. Like this could've worked as ch 2 better than the actual ch 2, and last week should've been the direct follow-up to the chapter introducing the class rather than the random nothing chapter we got in-between.

Elusive Samurai this week felt like it way overused Matsui's evil faces, there were so many of them that it lost all impact for me and just started looking dumb. I get that it's a Noh theatre kind of thing, emulating the Oni masks, but it doesn't work well in a manga imo compared to seeing a play on stage.

Ball Parade has finally started a bit of baseball and it was exciting, but I'm concerned it might be a bit too slow of a start for Jump. 3 of the first 5 chapters having no sports in a sports manga is a lot.

I tell C is still keeping the drama going well though, it's definitely not much of a detective series so far but it's a fun drama-thriller. It's also nice to see it getting extra pages next week but we've seen from Build King and such that a chapter having extra pages doesn't necessarily mean anything.
 

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Magu-chan
Cop and Dolphin
Mashle
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High School Family

were probably my favorite this week, or well, the ones I was most heavily immersed in. Might as well ad Nine Dragon's Ball Parade and Sakamoto Days into it too.

Jump has a good lineup these days.
 

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1. Dr. Stone: Chapter of the week hands down. I don't think I've ever seen Senku and his crew at such disadvantage...and I've seen them at large disadvantage a lot of times. The part where the girls escape is the cherry on the top.
2. Nine Dragons' Ball Parade: Whoa, what a way to recover from the lackluster chapter of last week! First, the main party shows they can be reasonable. Then, actual baseball is played. Finally, that hitter is insane! When they do sports it's very good, I hope it will be as good in actual matches when the time comes.
3. Mission: Yozakura Family: This is a characteristic of Yozakura: arcs start pretty average, then they become better and better as they progress, and it all leads to a satisfactory climax. Now we are at the point when a real interest to what happens is starting to grow. And we really raised the stakes now.
4. Undead Unluck: Great chapter. The pokemon fight was really interesting and they also delivered some nice bits of information (there is always some bit of information hidden in every chapter). This fight may even end with big consequences for one side.
5. Sakamoto Days: Nice chapter, now I hope we return to "life in a supermarket" for a while (and this seems to be the case). I love how wife and kid are totally casual about all of this.
6. Jujutsu Kaisen: I never really cared about Choso until just now. I suppose he's becoming a regular. Nice fight anyway, battle coreographies are the among the trademarks of this manga.
7. One Piece: Can we cure Covid like this, too? Chopper, get working on it fast! Jokes aside, it's time to celebrate because at least one sub-plot has finally been resolved.
8. Hard-boiled Cop and Dolphin: It's time for an unpopular opinion: I fell in love with this manga as a slice of life about a police officer living an everyday life in an island full of weirdos, which is exactly what most people disliked about the series. Now that it has taken this path for its end, I still like it but I feel I am ready to part ways with it.
9. Magu-chan: God of Destruction: We returned to SoL antics and it was a nice chapter, better than the recent trend with Magu SoL chapters. Some really funny moments here and there.
10. Phantom Seer: Very good chapter, you can feel the sense of despair and you are left yourself thinking that all hope is lost...until that call. I may have started to like it, but I won't say it loud for now.
11. My Hero Academia: Our good old friend, the "talk no jutsu"...when you are searching for some standard Shonen Jump tropes, MHA is the manga for you.
12. The Elusive Samurai: The arc is good and the situation is interesting to unfold, but I don't understand why they all have to act so creepy about it.
13. High-school Family: Probably the highest rank I ever gave to this series? The characters are starting to grow on me...they sure took their time, though. Probably, the switch to 15 pages has been beneficial. Also, if this got a Vomic, can I still hope to have one for HBC&D?
14. Witch Watch: It wasn't a really fun chapter for me (apart from the "and thus, she decided to use magic" joke that I liked a lot), but I think the explanation is simple: I like it more with the classroom setting. The weird classmates can spice up things more than when the main duo is left alone.
15. Ayakashi Triangle: Not much is happening and there is a good amount of fanservice, but I'll give it credit for the idea of a foreign Ayakashi, this can become an interesting concept to explore.
16. Black Clover: Just another standard, action-packed Black Clover chapter. The only part I really liked is the final page, with that twist at the end of the chapter.
17. Mashle: We're back at what I like less with this series: main character Mash dispatches an apparently invincible opponent by doing Mash things. It reminds me of when Kenshiro was curbstomping mooks left and right before he finally met Raoh. I hope Mash will find his Raoh sooner or later.
18. Me & Roboco: Not the best chapter, I didn't find many funny parts and even the final joke didn't deliver. Unfortunately Roboco is in a losing streak against my humour taste.
19. i tell c: Things are going really fast. Until the arrest it was an acceptable chapter, but then it derailed at such a pace that it may be ending in like 2-3 weeks from here. Or is all of this just an introduction for the real story to begin? There was the same theory circling around with Time Paradox, though.
20. Build King: Things are going really fast. Toriko took a lot of time before it started to be less about food and more about fighting and conspiracies. Are we still supposed to think it is a series about building houses?
 

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Another mixed batch of chapters for me this week. For the positives, this was one of Dr. Stone's best chapters in recent memory. For a series where I always know the main character will out manoeuvre his enemies in the most Gary Stu way possible it's nice to see things go horribly wrong and consequences be felt across multiple characters; it's starting to feel like the final stages of the series now and this is a chapter more than worthy of getting that Lead CP.

Jujutsu Kaisen and Sakamoto Days are doing exactly what I'm enjoying about them, awesome fights and establishing the next stage of their stories. Nine Dragon's Ball Parade also had a really good follow-up to what I get was a middling introduction to our latest cast member. The brief flashback was handled well, as was the baseball game, but I especially loved that the main characters respected him enough to stop pursuing him after learning the truth. Obviously he will join in the end but I like the maturity of the main characters to not push him into uncomfortable territory. Nine Dragons is doing a solid job of tackling these sports genre cliches without them ever seeming phoned in - it's just a shame I'm not so confident how it will perform in the magazine.

Everything else was somewhere between fine and disappointing. I'm a Chopper fan but even I did not care for most of this One Piece chapter though I'm sure that final page will keep theorisers busy over the next two weeks. Me & Roboco had its unfunniest chapter in a good while, and I'm starting to get lost in the chaos of this arc in Black Clover. One of my hard dislikes this week has to be WITCH WATCH which never made me laugh once and felt like a real chore to read. Similar to Our Blood Oath I also feel like the ordering of these chapters is off, to the point of it being quite jarring. Build King has gone full everything-and-the-kitchen-sink at this point; I'm sure this wasn't the original plan but here we are.... At this point I'm curious to see how many will be cancelled in the coming weeks and if more than two whether Build King will get axed before even the first volume can give it a chance.

My rankings compared to last week:
  1. (+6) Dr. Stone
  2. (+1) Jujutsu Kaisen
  3. (+1) Sakamoto Days
  4. (+6) Nine Dragons' Ball Parade
  5. (-4) Undead Unluck
  6. ( - ) My Hero Academia
  7. (-2) One Piece
  8. (-6) Me & Roboco
  9. ( - ) Mashle
  10. (-2) Black Clover
  11. ( - ) High School Family: Kokosei Kazoku
  12. (+1) Phantom Seer
  13. (+1) The Elusive Samurai
  14. (+2) Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin
  15. ( - ) Mission: Yozakura Family
  16. (+3) I tell c
  17. (+1) Magu-chan: God of Destruction
  18. (-6) WITCH WATCH
  19. (-2) Ayakashi Triangle
  20. ( - ) Build King
 

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JJK: Choso may have not only singlehandedly saved this chapter for me but this entire arc. I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm not interested in Yuuji, Naoya or Yuta's POVs, but Choso's was just far more interesting. Depending on how the next few chapters are handled he might scoot up into "favorite" status depending. It feels like now I can get behind some of the praise these last few chapters of JJK have received even if I still personally hope we'll move along to something else sooner rather than later.

WW: It's still not funny but this chapter was cute at least. That's really all I can say overall.

Roboco: Another one that less funny and more cute, but at least in this case I already like the characters so I enjoyed it. I will say the comedic timing between pages when Meico became Roboco got a laugh from me I wasn't expecting. Also Bondo thinly concealing his lewd thoughts was funnier to me than I thought too.

Sakamoto: This one was weirdly paced, but not really in a bad way. It felt like the chapter should have been longer (or shorter?) than it was. Still it was overall great to get a bit more of the world established and I'm glad the subplot set up so far wasn't discarded or concluded so quickly. This sets up for the series to continue it's duality of being cool and hilarious.

I tell C: Another one that was weirdly paced, and didn't handle it as well as Sakamoto. I dunno if someone at Shueisha said the writing was on the wall with this one and the author is trying to rectify this by speeding up the pace but it, well, didn't pay off as well. It felt like things were happening to keep interest rather than naturally to advance the plot. I feel weird saying this but I actually think it could have slowed down just a little and been way more effective. That being said, I thought I'd drop it soon but even with the badly handled pacing I am interested in seeing where this'll go, so I c a win in that aspect.

Samurai: Finally feels like Matsui has come into his own. It was good up until now but whatever was holding Matsui back these last few chapters is gone and he's putting everything I love into the storytelling and especially the artwork. This first real "arc" of the series is shaping up nicely, and I for one love the over the top Matsuisms that make his work stand out. I do hope the rest of the cast gets to fill out a bit more over time, but the anachronisms, sight gags (and creepiness) this week make this one a win.

Dolphin: I'm a sucker for sappy backstories and badass two page spreads, and this chapter delivered both. I'm not sure how to cheer this one on since it's likely it'll be gone before long. Though at least on a chapter to chapter basis it's entertaining. It's the inverse from I tell c where I think the slower pacing of events is helping it, well, not sink. I might be in the minority that misses Tamura's sense of humor though...

Mashle: Speaking of funny, I laughed more at this chapter than really feeling pumped up, but I'll take it. Mashle (to me) is at it's best when it's at it's most absurd, it's most shonen. More of this please.

OP: I read that Oda wishes he had more pages to work with and it shows here. This chapter and the one before it would have been way better as one installment. That being said, OP does do best when it sticks to one storyline and I'm glad the Chopper one seems to be done. Though that ending...it's gonna be a hard two week wait...

Yozakura: Dialing more into that bravado I see. I'm glad this chapter did more than show off another one-on-one fight. Those are fun to read in bulk but not weekly, as JJK has shown. That being said I'm interested in seeing where this team bout will go. That has the potential to be great.

UU: A one on one fight peppered with enough lore to keep it from being boring. This is the way it should be done, I think. Especially when it's a chance for side characters to shine. I'm probably more invested in this than I was the main plot for the last few chapters before this in honesty.

Overall a fun issue for the series I read. Hope next week keeps this energy.
 

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I tell C: Another one that was weirdly paced, and didn't handle it as well as Sakamoto. I dunno if someone at Shueisha said the writing was on the wall with this one and the author is trying to rectify this by speeding up the pace but it, well, didn't pay off as well. It felt like things were happening to keep interest rather than naturally to advance the plot. I feel weird saying this but I actually think it could have slowed down just a little and been way more effective. That being said, I thought I'd drop it soon but even with the badly handled pacing I am interested in seeing where this'll go, so I c a win in that aspect.
I just feel like this is a series that just feels mismanaged and badly editted, so many simple easy things could have straightened it out and it hit the noes it wants to hit...would have had the events in the final pages of this chapter, happening next, or maybe two from now, or, in a different world, would have happened a few arcs from now, you know, sprinkling lots of cases to lead up to his reappearance, imo.
 

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Kowloon's chapter was probably the best chapter of the week. It did everything right with some great hype moments.
Even the art which has been generic and lackluster from the start was definitely a different level in this one.

Elusive Samurai also had an interestingly good chapter. The premise is very intriguing and it's enough to keep me wanting to read more.

Jujutsu Kaisen was also good. Short but good. It's the level of consistency I've come to expect from JJK.

Mashle chapter was predictable but it was so over the top that i enjoyed it. The over the top moments of how Mashle counters his opponents are somethings that I enjoy in this series. It's pretty obvious that Mashle will be destroying all students in the school before eventually losing to a bigger threat from outside the school.

Sakamoto Days is like JJK for me. In the sense that, I've come to expect a level of consistency every week and it always delivers. It's CPs are also really great. It's not over the top but the color choices for backgrounds etc really make them pop and fits well with the series. This mangaka absolutely knows what he is doing.

Phantom Seer was enjoyable. Nothing more to say. The art and the fighting was great. I'm more intrigued for the next chapter. I think PS's greatest strength is that despite being generic, I look forward to it every week.

Witch Watch was funny and just a easy read. It wasn't the strongest chapter but I enjoyed it.

Build King feels like it's leading upto a big event. I don't know how to feel about it. Let's see what happens next week I guess.

My Hero Academia was fine. I think it was one of the weakest of the bunch I read this week. Deku is gonna use talk no Jutsu eventually but I hope Hori doesn't go that route

I Tell C was just terrible. Weakest of the week. It has lost my attention. The mangaka clearly wants to go a certain route with this character but it just comes off as so edgy and bad. Also, the art quality has started to drop. There are moments you can tell where the art is kinda off.
 

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MHA: Deku seems to want to go down the "talk-no-jutsu" route and I know that's gonna annoy quite a few people, but goddamn it, I can't be mad. I personally think there's certain circumstances here that makes this more believable or palatable than in Naruto (e.g. they're superheroes), and I think that as long as it's handled correctly, going down that route should be fine. It is just a trope, after all, and tropes are tools.
 

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Phantom Seer chapter ending brought out those early Bleach hype vibes I haven’t gotten since Undead and Mashle. Great anticipation for next week.

Horikoshi borrowing some tidbits from D.Gray-man it seems in the latest chapter. Kid Deku was cool.
 

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Dr Stone- This and the last chapter were intense, dr. stone always picks up during climaxes
MHA- Glad that we are getting to know the past users
Elusive Samurai- Never read neuro or ass class so seeing all those exaggerated faces is quite an experience
JJK- Good action, Having insight into Choso line of thinking was also great
Yozakura Family- I am really enjoying this arc. Glad that other family members are getting the spotlight, also the self destruct was a great way to raise the stakes even more
Undead Unluck- This series has come a long way, and I mean it in the best possible way

Sakamoto Days- Long term antagonist introduced, this is gonna be interesting.
Ball parade- I never cared or have any knowledge of baseball and this series has me intrigued. I know they didn't play much and chose to focus on the characters but I think I would not enjoy the series without it. Hope this series lives
Black Clover- Standard black clover fare nothing else to say
Mashle- Great beatdown, but I feel the series is getting a bit repetitive.

I tell c- Absolute trainwreck, but it's very entertaining.
Cop and Dolphin- I liked the worldbuilding, but isn't it too late for that now?
Ayakashi Triangle- New character and new hijinks
Highschool Family- Relatable and relaxing chapter, much better than usual

Phantom Seer- I see the improvements in every chapter but I still think this series is okay at best
Build King- Plot points being throw left and right, and introducing all these characters cant be good
WItch Watch- Pretty boring chapter, I just could not care for the fashion and a lot of jokes went over my head because I don't know those references. But I liked HxH mention.
 

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My Top 3:
Kowloon's Ball Parade
- Very solid storytelling. Astounding arc. I really like the pacing of this manga and consider this the best manga of its batch by far.
Magu-chan: God of Destruction - Relaxing and fun chapter. It's refreshing to see the cast somewhere else.
Dr. Stone - Cool and eventful chapter. It's a shame we know all damages will be undone eventually, but, eh, it's still cool at the moment!

UU - Cool Pokemon battle and some more lore. Really meaty chapter as usual.
WW- Still hasn't found its footing, IMO. The romance is nowhere to be found and the comedy is just okay.
Roboko - Okay chapter. I think 'bottle episodes' (chapters that only take place in one location) in Roboko tend to not be very amusing.
HSF - I...actually like HSF more when it's got some plot progression. Hopefully it continues that way.
HBC&D - Another cool chapter. This latest arc really turned me around on this manga.
PS - Decent. I like the backstory given. Looking forward to Iori's power-up next chapter.
M:YF - Interesting enough 'battle'. I really like the ice villain guy.
SD - Quite decent. Really cool knife trick there. Nothing standout though. Onwards to next arc.
JJK - Better blood powers than OBO.
ES - Looking forward to the next chapter. I still don't like the priest.
BK - Yeah, I don't really care. It's funny that the main characters are getting shoved off to the side.
Mashle - The iron 'wand' is actually really cool and I wish to see more of its creative uses.
AT- Kind of forgettable chapter, but the next Russian ayakashi is mega cute.
 

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Hey, Demon Slayer movie didn't make it into the Oscars! But why?!
 

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Sometimes i wonder about the relevance of the awards, especially since its english/USA leaning, and only people who were in Florida actually had a chance to see the movie here. Should have done like the korean movie did and been able to be streamed.
 

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There's a lot of factors going into Demon Slayer not getting nominated but I think the biggest is definitely it being a sequel to a TV show, that's adding onto it not being made by a bigger name director like Miyazaki or Hosoda, not having a wide release due to covid and so on, it would've been weirder if it had been nominated.
 

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There's a lot of factors going into Demon Slayer not getting nominated but I think the biggest is definitely it being a sequel to a TV show, that's adding onto it not being made by a bigger name director like Miyazaki or Hosoda, not having a wide release due to covid and so on, it would've been weirder if it had been nominated.
How about 2021/22 Oscars (and other major awards) will give it a shot.
 

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How about 2021/22 Oscars (and other major awards) will give it a shot.
They shot their shot and submitted it for this year and they didn't get in, so they can't just try again next year. Also it didn't even make it into the Annies (the big US animation awards) while two other anime did, so I don't think that'd increase their chances.
 
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