Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2021] - Discussion and ToC Talk

[lgrmjauffre]

Didn't i tell c get a second week on the chart though?

It did, but High School Family still outsold it by an estimated 181 copies, taking the two week total into account.

 

[tirakai]

I guess they're roughly the same then.

 

[ItsSamu]

Lots of good news today.

I'm really looking forward to both of the new serialisations; while I suspect there's going to be two camps with Red Hood - those who hype it as next big thing from day one vs those who will be extra cautious due to the GFC predecessors - I'm excited to see how the story unfolds beyond the oneshot format even if it follows a similar fate to other GFC serialisations. There's definitely room for it to explore various folk creatures if it becomes long-running. If it has the same quality of art and page layouts as the one shot then that alone will keep me invested, but I would definitely appreciate another battle manga doing well in the magazine right now, especially one that feels so creative. NERU also looks really cool from what little I've seen, some of the examples of Hiraga Minya's art is top notch so I'm not worried on that front. Like has been already said, JJK started as a miniseries so it's not a bad thing at all, in fact it's possible the reception for the digital version was quite strong.

Read the Red Hood one-shot. Definitely walking a thin line. Feels like it could easily go the way of something like Bone Collection.

Ouch, comparing Red Hood to the series without correct perspective or understanding of body anatomy? Though then again we do have a current running series that also fits that bill.... Personally, I can't see the overlap with Bone Collection and how it could go down that route.

As for this issue, it's a shame to see Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin go before its anniversary, but it lasted as long as it needed to tell its full story, so it's not a horrible thing overall. It had its highlights, but it never wowed me - the first half was mostly duds and bad gags, and the initial set-up held me back from getting more invested when the action did start to kick into high gear; I could never imagine it being that popular to begin with.

Great to see Blue Box get 1st place however, breaking the record that The Elusive Samurai set a couple months ago, even if just by one chapter. Looking over this TOC it gives me way more hope in the magazine's future than I had even at the start of 2021. With series like Blue Box, The Elusive Samurai, and Sakamoto Days performing well from the beginning while all feeling very different is nice to see + we've got Mashle and its growing popularity while others continue to do their thing (Mission: Yozakura Family, Ayakashi Triangle, Undead Unluck) even if I'm not a fan of all of them. It does mean however that there are fewer available spots in the magazine, so seeing two new serialisations I'm hopeful for right now is going to be tough.

As for what could end - it looks like Nine Dragon's Ball Parade will join Hard-Boiled Cop and Dolphin this time, and I tell c will live to survive another round (lol). Whether we have 2-4 serialisations in the following round (I've guess starting around #38-#40) those in any real danger look to be:

1. I tell c/Nine Dragon's Ball Parade
2. Candy Flurry (willing to bet it'll become a bottom dweller very soon)
3. Magu-chan: God of Destruction
4. High School Family

I know we were talking about Undead Unluck and Ayakashi Triangle not doing their best lately but I don't see them in any immediate risk. Plus we've got Burn the Witch coming back at some point which will allow for one less cancellation if it is short-term again, so I'd be surprised if any of the series other than the four above end within the 2021 year (unless we do get another round at issue #50 or so like we did with Build King and Sakamoto Days last time).

Okay, let's do this. First #1 position in ToC (outside of LCP). I'm using Jajanken:
- Sumou: chapter 8
- MHA: ch 11
- Black Clover: ch 15
- Straighten-up!: never
- Samon: never
- Yuuna: ch 23 (I dind't expect this one)
- Yaiba: ch 67 (LOL, Yuuna got it faster)
- Neverland: ch 33
- Spring Weapon: never
- We Never Learn: ch 40
- Dr Stone: ch 23
- RxL: ch 23
- Act-Age: never
- Jujutsu: ch 26
- Chainsawman: ch 88
- Yozakura: not yet
- Agravity: never
- Undead: not yet
- Mashle: not yet
- Ayakashi: not yet
- Elusive: ch 11

So it's the fastest #1 in the ToC since Hero Aca (they are tied). And as you mentioned, AssClass was also first in chapter 11.
It's also the first series to get a #1 position within its first 30 chapters since Jujutsu.

It should be noted that Samurai 8 was first in chapter 6, but I think we can all agree that that was editorial push and disregard it.

Time to add Blue Box to this list then. Does anyone have reference of any other series that achieved it faster - One Piece and Fist of the North Star come to mind but I'm sure there must be others as well? Curious to see how unprecedented this is for Blue Box (especially as a romance series).

 

[Rheine]

Story-wise I feel like i tell c is likelier to end in two chapters since it just finished a big arc and can do "the adventure continues" or just epilogue quickly.

Or maybe it's the copium talking. I really want NDBP to survive.

 

[Ebrietas-]

The flops usually end in order of release so i tell c is more likely to end than Kowloon. Or maybe both end and HxH returns in issue #32...

 

[KagamiKuroko]

Hope Burn the Witch comes back soon

 

[Blink22]

Tamura going out with a whimper. A stark contrast to the fan reception when he ended Beelzebub.

He is still a talented mangaka no question, and I think it’s time he moves on from Jump since the material he seems interested in writing nowadays doesn’t connect with modern Jump readers.

I could see him going to Young Jump if he preferred to stay within Shuesha but I could even see him leave all together and serialized in Shonen Sunday. Think his name would give them good boost.

 

[SharkBait]

Tamura going out with a whimper. A stark contrast to the fan reception when he ended Beelzebub.

He is still a talented mangaka no question, and I think it’s time he moves on from Jump since the material he seems interested in writing nowadays doesn’t connect with modern Jump readers.

I could see him going to Young Jump if he preferred to stay within Shuesha but I could even see him leave all together and serialized in Shonen Sunday. Think his name would give them good boost.

I thought cop and dolphin is ending strong, should have just done this arc as the first arc, then I think the series would have lasted long.

 

[tirakai]

Yeah I'd say Cop and Dolphin's ended really well, Tamura's managed to pull off a full length final arc with room leftover for 2 chapters of epilogue. As long as he doesn't screw up the final chapter it'll go down as one of the series I recommend as 'cancelled manga that feel complete' like School Judgement.

The flops usually end in order of release so i tell c is more likely to end than Kowloon. Or maybe both end and HxH returns in issue #32...

Flops ending in order of release is for when they end in the same batch (hence why Cop and Dolphin is ending first this round, it's older so it ends an issue before the second cancellation).

 

[perroloco]

I think I will do something I very rarely do, read a manga from the get go, Martial arts road -Neru- picked my interest because apparently it was published online before? (Was this published in Jump + or where online was it published?) Anyway, since it already has a fanbase from its digital serialization (Like others have pointed out, similarly to JJK) I think that will benefit its chances of success.

Also the fact that the mangaka, Hiraga Minya, loves Hoshin Engi (One of my personal favorites too) just kind of gives me hopes I will like the manga.

 

[Wookitake]

At least HBCD is being replaced by Red Hood! Nice! It was promising IMO, great one shot.
Knowing that Kawaguchi has Hinomaru as one of his favs cheers me up too.

 

[Tamil]

Demon Slayer Film Sells At Least 486,000 Discs on 1st Day (Updated)

Film sells 268,000 limited Blu-rays, 218,000 regular DVDs for 2021's best 1-week sales

www.animenewsnetwork.com

well, new round means it's time for my tradition

Yuuki Kawaguchi's fav manga: Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro, Hinomaru Zumou

Hiraga Minya's fav manga: Hoshin Engi, Real, Kingdom etc



this isn't something new or "desperate"
Higuma, ne0, Beast Children, Invade You, Momiji no Kisetsu, and most famously Jujutsu Kaisen were all miniseries
the story for the series will be different from the pilot

Nice taste with HZ

 

[Minsel]

well, new round means it's time for my tradition

Yuuki Kawaguchi's fav manga: Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro, Hinomaru Zumou

Hiraga Minya's fav manga: Hoshin Engi, Real, Kingdom etc



this isn't something new or "desperate"
Higuma, ne0, Beast Children, Invade You, Momiji no Kisetsu, and most famously Jujutsu Kaisen were all miniseries
the story for the series will be different from the pilot

Do you have a list of all the current mangakas fav manga?

 

[animeexpert]

Demon Slayer Film Sells At Least 486,000 Discs on 1st Day (Updated)

Film sells 268,000 limited Blu-rays, 218,000 regular DVDs for 2021's best 1-week sales

www.animenewsnetwork.com

Nice taste with HZ

Kingdom ofc,

 

[Kushikime]

Looks good

 

[zjans]

Is that WITCH WATCH in danger next round?I really like this series but it ranked badly in last three weeks.

 

[KagamiKuroko]

Is that WITCH WATCH in danger next round?I really like this series but it ranked badly in last three weeks.

We have to see how the TOC rankings are going forward as well as volume sales but Shinohara is a veteran so he will be granted more leeway than otherwise( see Tamura with Dolphin Cop)

 

[Minsel]

Is that WITCH WATCH in danger next round?I really like this series but it ranked badly in last three weeks.

It didn't even rank badly it has a CP

 

[SharkBait]

how can witch watch be in danger when this is like its second color page

in addition to other series with average ranks way higher than it

 

[zjans]

It didn't even rank badly it has a CP

OK I mean that WW will be in danger after Kowloon and ITC get axed.