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Madame fallaFar's Daily Horoscope corner!
๐Ÿ”ฎ With the very last bits of their energy they can muster, the Teller takes to the stars one final time ๐Ÿ”ฎ

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โ™ˆ Aries โ™ˆ
"Sure, your sign might be considered a little unfiltered, bold and daring even; prone to being bored, one could say. But this also allows you to reach new heights other signs rarely ascend to. This week the Virgo moon will be in descent and Jupiter will be in retrograde, meaning it's high time for you to set out on a new venture. Yet, with the waning sun and rising tides also comes the warning not to overreach. Fate is a zero-sum game, and not one you can always win."

โ™‰Taurus โ™‰
"Despite your penchant for resting, over long enough periods of time, this might cause rusting. Your all-or-nothing demeanour makes it hard for you to change or to pivot at the exact moment you need. This week you will be once again presented with an opportunity and the stars have aligned for you to reach out. Though it might go against your nature, it might be your destiny."

โ™ŠGemini โ™Š
"You're charismatic and good with words, both written and in conversation. But your charm has a washing-machine type of effect; others believe you, no matter what you say, and consequently, you start believing it too. In the short term, that works wonders for you. In the long-term, you might find yourself cornered by a lack of good advice, and people around you to balance out your persona. This week, the stars will provide you with an opportunity in disguise to make a change in this. That person who argues against you might actually be looking out for you. For a change, it might be best to let someone else do the talking, and despite all odds, that might enrich your life greatly"

โ™‹ Cancer โ™‹
"You're a sensitive person who seeks both provide and give comfort. You forgive but don't forget, you set boundaries that are vigilantly guarded and maintained but are willing to take on the problems of others outside of that. You might find that this week requires you to shift the window a little, when a new but unknown problem shows up on the horizon. Though people tend to lose perspective when they face the unknown, the stars can do one better than disorient you, and instead, help you make acquaintance with a whole new worldview. Be open-minded this week, and see where it takes you."

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โ™Œ Leo โ™Œ
"Despite being a little vain, you exude warmth and creativity. Your larger-than-life persona makes you stand out and you like this accompanying a certain degree of luxury. And much like the King of Beasts, you hold back little energy when dealing with problems, both big and small. This week you will be asked to practice restraint and proportionality. Even the Lion needs rest."

โ™ Virgo โ™
"The Virgo sign is a compassionate one. You feel the need to be useful to others, no matter what. It helps that usually you are in fact the kind of person who can produce useful solutions. You have a million ideas per second that are produced by a rich tapestry of experience. Your quick thinking makes it so you can find quick fixes to whatever situation. This however does not mean there always is a solution, and you need to make peace with that. This week, try figuring out yourself, too."

โ™Ž Libra โ™Ž
"You hate being alone, but you also hate conflict. You see every side which makes it so you have trouble making decisions. But this week is not the time to get lost in fantasy and lose yourself to eventualities that might never occur. It is time to stand your ground and figure out how to break your current dead-lock. This week, you will have to decide. When you decide, go deeper than trying to understand both sides and instead try to figure out why you feel the need to mediate."

โ™ Scorpio โ™
"No sign takes betrayal worse than you do. And this week, you will be indeed faced with betrayal. Not necessarily someone you're close to, but someone you look up to - deem better than yourself - will disappoint you. While revenge is a dish best served callously, this week, it will be important for you to choose your battles, and bide your time. You don't know how much poison you will be needing going forward, and who to use it on, if you take out everything in sight."

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โ™ Sagittarius โ™
"You have no indoor voice and form opinions almost exclusively based on how you feel in the moment. Simultaneously, you are driven by self-improvement to the point of it being a fault. Truth is a weapon you use to dish out blunt trauma to all around you, even those who didn't deserve it, much less those who can defend themselves from it. This week you will be faced with a conundrum that requires a bit more emotional intelligence than you usually care to apply. Not for lack of possession of it, however. So tap into this richer side of yourself, and learn to furnish your weapon with this pageantry."

โ™‘ Capricorn โ™‘
"You're responsible and motivated by duty. Oriented around success, you might be a little hard to approach. Others think it, but you know it. While it may be comfortable keeping up these defences, the stars have a chance meeting for you planned this week that requires you to let down the draw bridge. It's good being an adult, but it's better not to lose sight of your childlike enthusiasms. Staying in touch with your past is not a bad thing if you understand your place in it."

โ™’ Aquarius โ™’
"You are in possession of the best sign. But that doesn't mean you are being your best self. You believe in freedom, having it and living it, but faultily, you also believe the opposite of freedom is restraint. This is not true; a little self-discipline would help you improve in all aspects of your life, and allow you to exploit said freedom better. Being free means the ability to choose and you would do well seeking more input from others before you choose how you want to be free."

โ™“ Pisces โ™“
"They say there's plenty of fish in the sea. And that's true. It's unfortunate then you're a sea-urchin. You also get into a fight with a duck you somehow manage to lose. Best to stay inside"
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๐Ÿ”ฎ Night Actions ๐Ÿ”ฎ




Aha here are the spicy night actions. Past Nacho's death, the DC didn't have much to vote on... So it was dissolved. Also, empty spaces may indicate that player didn't PM for whatever reason

I was going to do an elaborate player-by-player review like last time, but this time noona did it, and hers were pretty good so I'll stick to those :lmao

Compared to the previous burning building mechanic, I think noona and I pretty easily settled on the form of this idea, stamping out technicalities along the way. I thought the DC mechanic was pretty interesting, though perhaps not all effects were equally balanced (nor did all effects provide the DC with the same amount of powers). There is probably some more interesting concepts in this post-death corner to explore (coming to a panda game close to you). Coming up with all the effects was a little tricky but overall they produced a couple of interesting gamer moments. Hmm, I didn't expect a mafia to die to the N1 effect, I didn't think Jesus and day skip would be picked so quickly and I didn't expect horoscoping to be such hard work ๐Ÿ˜ค The tellers have it tough.

We wanted the game to have a mystical kind of atmosphere? The colours, avi's and text hopefully all contributed to that. Though usually I'm not necessarily fond of RNG, given the theme it seemed acceptable. We had to RNG onto a vote so that a majority of townies couldn't disregard a minority mafo. There was a rubberband kind of mechanic to a three-headed council, as the team that was getting bodied could attempt to control the course of the constellations. Introducing lovers into the game at a later point proved an interesting stimulant, in that even trusted players could get burnt. Inactive or unwilling players could refrain from engaging with the mechanic heavily. Living players didn't necessarily have to learn all the effects while they were playing; they could focus on the game and look up a list of more invested players after kicking the bucket.

I liked random-kuns debut. He helped a lot with Rin-chan-campaigning and has a penchant for omo'ing. It's a smart bot, for sure. It did its best. Not a lot to say about it, other than that I'm disappointed in the players who had random-kun RNG onto someone to vote for LOL, very painful. Its final deciding coin toss turned out to be pretty relevant. Apparently, random-kun has a penchant for multiples of 2 but will roll onto uneven numbers if you praise or intimidate it. Perhaps it keeps track of how everyone is treating it :heh. I think in these few cute paragraphs I've surmised most of my immediately relevant thoughts. Hopefully, less panda game shenanigans next time ๐Ÿ˜ค





๐ŸŒ  Once again, congratulations to the winners, and thank you for playing! ๐ŸŒ 
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Guess you are too young for love :teehee
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You all know that regardless she isn't town ffs.

It's the second time she tries to frame me but she was caught the first time.
 

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Not gonna rush my vote, everyone should give us their input.
 

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So basically we have juviii/gry pair
Sakura with??? She either with tatsu or someone else
Mary and marma ?

Yo Where's my pair??? I feel excluded form this lover thing
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That one moment when you don't trust anybody anymore
Why would i recommend tatsu death then?
 

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I'd normally believe sakura because she is very prone to such outbursts, both when town and mafia. Except I didn't find a secondary on Juviii and I don't believe in 2 townie Lovers. Just sounds like an awful thing to do as a host.
 

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I wish hosts confirmed that lovers work by the normal rules or fully randomized
Instead i got a stars as a respond smh
 

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I wish hosts confirmed that lovers work by the normal rules or fully randomized
Instead i got a stars as a respond smh
Panda responded with stars to my PMs and to other times people asked. Either itโ€˜s random or he doesnโ€˜t want to confirm or deny anything..
 

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I think we just got to keep all possibilities in mind with the lovers, just in case
 

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Ok so here's what I think. Sakura is either Lover or helping the real Lovers. I found no secondary on Juviii and I'm no Lover either so I have no idea why she's saying what she's saying except if she was Lover or helping the real ones.

Here are my theories:

1. She is Lover: Doing anything she can to extend her life. Good gameplay for her team but bad for us.
2. She is really Traitor. If so then:
2A: Juviii is mafia but not Lover. The Lovers are 2 townies. Sakura is throwing game as Traitor due to fear?
2B: She was recruited and realizes she can't win, so she's helping the real Lovers by wasting town's lynch. Since if we lynch her + 1 townie Lovers win.

Take your own conclusions of what is most likely.
You stink of desperation

Lynch me today guys, I.m begging you. You.ll see tomorrow how right and true what i said is.
 

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I think she's trying to gain time. This can give them 1 to 2 mislynches regardless.
 

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Apparently I was targeted twice. Once by sakura it seems but don't know who else.


N1 EH
N2 Asako
N4 Demonspeed
N5 Juviii
N6 James
N7 No one cause I didn't know the night was gonna be that short :oh
but the fact that I didn't target anyone is proof enough that I can't be the one who killed avietar so I don't think you should waste your time on me this phase.
can someone tell me if i missed something here? is there actually proof that Tatsu didn't target anyone this night? the one who can confirm that is avi and they're dead. who proved that? sakura??
 

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Honestly at this point I'm willing to look back at all Mafias previous posts to find any wishy-washy posts but it's so many posts ....
 

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ah okay that was sakura, but didn't she yesterday confirm she is not sane?
 

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can someone tell me if i missed something here? is there actually proof that Tatsu didn't target anyone this night? the one who can confirm that is avi and they're dead. who proved that? sakura??
Sakura
 

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did sakura get recruited?
 

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She is either lovers or the real traitor but trying to help her team gain time. The question is who is her real team or lover.
 

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ah okay that was sakura, but didn't she yesterday confirm she is not sane?
Paranoid still has a use as it can show who acted and when.

I went through some older posts in first days but found nothing very useful, and I donโ€˜t have the most time to check. Someone checking demon/james posts could help. DD was too random and desin died too early.
 

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did sakura get recruited?
don't mind i found the answer to this, she said she wasn't apparently
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this is confusing as hell
so at first i thought gry is townie-lover and juvii mafia-lover
but with sakura's sudden confession trying to get us to lynch juvii. i feel something is wrong. there must be a reason behind her confession, and that reason isnt to help townies win the game cuz if it was, she wouldn't have locked on juvii first. i would have considered going for juvii if she didn't lock. her locking first on her made me think sakura is lovers with tatsu? and tatsu is mafia boss? tatsu said she didn't target anyone this night so she can't be the killer, and this is only proved by paranoid spy sakura? but then the way she agreed on lynching tatsu made me doubt that a bit. did she just do that to distance herself from tatsu thinking we wouldn't go for her or is she really not her lover?

i don't know what to think anymore
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i have a question : if we lynch a lover, their lover suicides the following night right? do they suicide before doing any action? so if the lover that stays alive is the mafia, they can't kill at night as they'll suicide?
 

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ah okay that was sakura, but didn't she yesterday confirm she is not sane?
sane or naive, no result is received by both if target performed no action.
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did sakura get recruited?
if i would have gotten recruited i wouldn't have insisted on my only mafia team mate to be killed so soon.

you know what, as always town proves not to deverve win, gj lovers โ™ฅ you're good at manipulating.
 

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Mhm, what a mess lol. I'd like to think things over for a little bit. Get the idea it might not be as simple as it looks, but I don't know.

So as for N7, all the actions are - please correct me if I'm wrong
- Marmalade: Protect Asako
- Asako: Mary (result: innocent)
- Grysun: Target Juviii (result: no secondary)
- Juviii: Nothing
- Tatsumaki - Nothing
- Maryxxi - Nothing
- Sakura: Target Tatsumaki (no results)
- Avietar: ??? (wonder if her action got through before the kill).
about this
@Copy Panda if a spy gets killed during a night when they sent an action, does their action go through ?
 

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don't mind i found the answer to this, she said she wasn't apparently
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this is confusing as hell
so at first i thought gry is townie-lover and juvii mafia-lover
but with sakura's sudden confession trying to get us to lynch juvii. i feel something is wrong. there must be a reason behind her confession, and that reason isnt to help townies win the game cuz if it was, she wouldn't have locked on juvii first. i would have considered going for juvii if she didn't lock. her locking first on her made me think sakura is lovers with tatsu? and tatsu is mafia boss? tatsu said she didn't target anyone this night so she can't be the killer, and this is only proved by paranoid spy sakura? but then the way she agreed on lynching tatsu made me doubt that a bit. did she just do that to distance herself from tatsu thinking we wouldn't go for her or is she really not her lover?

i don't know what to think anymore
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i have a question : if we lynch a lover, their lover suicides the following night right? do they suicide before doing any action? so if the lover that stays alive is the mafia, they can't kill at night as they'll suicide?
Honestly i agree with you, if it weren't for sakura doing whatever she doing now, i could been fine with juviii lynch especially with gajeel last will but what is going on anymore ?

Honestly if we speaking only about mafia i still think tatsu the safest lynch we can go with considering she could be boss, that is if we don't include this lover mess
What makes me more hesitant is sakura been changing her claim soooo many timeee, that's not how you help townie, that's how you confuse them, plus the fact that if juviii is really townie and is lynched, it basically guarantee lovers win as they could just need to kill marma that can't protect herself
 
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