Games Mafia Game 96 - Civilization XCVI - END GAME

[Imperium]

imperium knows mafia he created the mafia discussion thread.

Well yes, I just don't know what these day phase PM's are. Things change over a decade. Have you seen how big those rules have gotten? It use to be simple game, now you got to read a Bible before you start.

The list of roles is insane. It even has Jesus.

 

[Seraph]

If you were reading the thread you could see I was probing for hints

You were? Cool. I had my role before and i've used it pretty well the last time i had it.

The role is a curse and a blessing sometimes.

 

[Shad]

I think I‘ll vote and want to lynch someone from my continents. Lowers scum chances(already the smaller of the 2 continents) and severely limits their kill choices in this continent without exposing themselves.

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 25, 2021, Original Post Date: Sep 25, 2021 ---

Can we not have random non-game related talk?

Everything said inside this thread is game related.
Maybe focus your advice on the half the player not even posting 3 comments?

 

[Imperium]

Any hints??? @Imperium @digitaldude @Equaling Heaven @James Rye @Belserion

Sorry I am going through all the posts. I should have multiquoted but whatever. It's passive

 

[Belserion]

Any hints??? @Imperium @digitaldude @Equaling Heaven @James Rye @Belserion

I've had my role before.

 

[SonOfDaws]

Oh yeah, while I'm thinking about it. The vote on Gajeel is more of a counter placeholder than anything else

@Asako Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think him saying there's one mafia was a slip up. That seemed to just be in reference to his simple one-mafia hypothetical scenario he presented for Slaynior, the newbie.

 

[Belserion]

Votekill Holt for now. Nothing much has happened but it's day 1 so not too surprising.

Still deciding between the mountain and coastline.

 

[Shad]

I mean... There's not a whole lot to really comment on yet. The most peculiar thing in the game so far is @digitaldude 's insta-vote, but that's mainly because he seems to do that in most games we play together.

Gajeel's vote feels very much like something he'd do normally, not that I appreciate it too much, but it's nice to know I still have uhh fans of my work.


Beyond that, I think the Gry and GB interaction to be a bit odd, but seems like the sort of interaction two townies would have. I'm not sure the reason for GB's kinda mean comments to Gry and Sakura though... Usually more just calm and playful lately, especially this early into a game.

That aside, @SirSamuel016 I have an active role that has to do with risk.

As for my vote, I also want to spend a but of the beginning of this game sorting out those I'm on a continent with and Gajeel thinks he can challenge the King of Heroes so lightly...

Votekill zashu Gajeel

Speaking of mechanics, I think they're pretty darn cool, but also more notably, they make me suspect that the scum in game has a fairly even distribution between the two continents. I'm not sure what that means for any one mafia in terms of communication and coordination as that's pretty important given that only one of them can perform a kill. Though perhaps there's two mafias and, to make sure they can't start targeting and killing each other early in the game, the two mafias each have a continent of their own and a bunch of townies to target on them...

In fact, I think it might be worth going into N1 with a short list of mafia suspects for each continent.

Thanks for your reply!
I agree with your assessment of Gajeel vote (I only followed his playstyle last game only), and I like that you are not over reacting.

On the mechanic, I like your idea of 2 mafia teams split in different continent.
I would expect mafia doc to be in the game to avoid mafia killing each other too early, but having them split is also another way to achieve this.

 

[GrySun]

So given what I said about lynching from my continent, my thoughts are currently:

1. GB - Looks like a good boy given that he usually reacts a lot calmer when mafia, or rather tries to act innocent. Idk if he ever acted in a non-innocent way when mafia. Trust for now.
2. Shad - Seems fine for now, though he can be tricky to read sometimes as mafia. More cheerful than usual..?
3. Samuel - Also looking ok for now, he tends to fumble as mafia so he can be dealt with when it happens if it happens.
4. Asako - Active claim but otherwise not much relevant said. Noteworthy that she somewhat "protected" Daws which makes her town if Daws is according to how I see Asako.
5. Brandish - Not said much yet, hard to analyze.
6. Marmalade - Passive claim and otherwise no posts to analyze further.
7. Imperium - Seems to genuinely be trying to participate, which is interesting given that in the last game I saw him play he was town and largely abstaining from many talks. But otherwise also hasn't said much of importance.
8. James - Actually sounds town due to talking less, as mafia he throws in a lot of info at you(which he used to do as town to some extent but hasn't done in a long time now).

So as it looks right now, my vote will be between Brandish, Marm and Imperium. May even votepile to lynch the one that has most votes.

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I will start with votekill Brandish to add him to the 2-voter pool and see what happens.

 

[Seraph]

I'm taking the Coastline Route.

 

[digitaldude]

I will explore the mountains.

 

[Holt]

On the mechanic, I like your idea of 2 mafia teams split in different continent.

Technically I brought it up first

 

[Marmalade]

Votekill Marma this is your

Votekill Shinobi - looks like you need some libra love in your life

Sorry for not beign around much today by the way, I'll try to be better

 

[Gajeel]

gajeel how the heck did you know it's one mafia, the only way you can know is if you're part of the mafias and know how many members there is

You must not have read the whole paragraph because I clearly stated ''in the scenario of only one mafia team present''.

Why not? He made many mistakes or plays that could be easily warped and framed, not too difficult to do depending on the person and circumstances

Maybe the first game I played but that was ancient times ago and I came pretty close for being a huge newbie at the time. Nowadays I could do it much easier, see Gajeel from last game.

Get off your high horse, acting like you didn't slip up a lot that game. You wouldn't have pulled it off if it wasn't for those specific town players. Don't get too cocky.

 

[Asako]

You must not have read the whole paragraph because I clearly stated ''in the scenario of only one mafia team present''.

Ah sorry then, yea didn't see that part

 

[GrySun]

Get off your high horse, acting like you didn't slip up a lot that game. You wouldn't have pulled it off if it wasn't for those specific town players. Don't get too cocky.

umad? No reason why you're quoting me on this just to add meaningless words to it, that discussion only used your case as a comparison for something else. A bit late for you now to try and argue what clearly happened.

 

[SonOfDaws]

So yeah I'm thinking the mountains...

 

[Equaling Heaven]

By the number of players and how the rules work we would be dealing with a 5 men mafia team right? In this case I'm not sure if we do have 3rd parties, but I would say a number between 1 and 3 would be enough. Given we have 19 players that would make a 13/12/11 vs 6/7/8. Dunno if hosts would go such a route tho.

For now I'm totally ignoring the existence of any 3rd parties. I think we would need 1 or 2 more days to see through it.

 

[GrySun]

Remember for next days that dead players give us clues on who killed them, for first 2 nights.

I‘m worried why they‘d give us that help though(the hosts). Maybe there‘s more mafias around, or stronger roles.

 

[Asako]

By the number of players and how the rules work we would be dealing with a 5 men mafia team right? In this case I'm not sure if we do have 3rd parties, but I would say a number between 1 and 3 would be enough. Given we have 19 players that would make a 13/12/11 vs 6/7/8. Dunno if hosts would go such a route tho.

For now I'm totally ignoring the existence of any 3rd parties. I think we would need 1 or 2 more days to see through it.

You know the rule 5 mafia isn't always implemented, could be 5 meaning a big Mafia with a TP or 2 teams with 3 each, and that's the usual, there the odd games were they don't do what we usually do like last game where they did the 5 member rule but debuffed townie
It all depands on the balance of the game and we definitely can't know that yet only with some bits of the mechanic but still not enough info to make a deduction...


Meh thinking about the number of mafia won't lead us anywhere, we know anyways with time...

--- Double Post Merged, Sep 25, 2021, Original Post Date: Sep 25, 2021 ---

Remember for next days that dead players give us clues on who killed them, for first 2 nights.

I‘m worried why they‘d give us that help though(the hosts). Maybe there‘s more mafias around, or stronger roles.

I don't get it, how will they know who killed them, I don't see anything about it...