Chapter Tower of God Chapter 515 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower of God Chapter 515 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[HakunaMatata]

But FH’s can’t kill the one another so what the hell is being destroyed

Baam will apply some "I can do whatever I want" haki on Po Bidau fist/shinsoo wave. Problem solved.
Like in FoD with Urek IIRC.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

But FH’s can’t kill the one another so what the hell is being destroyed

So, Gustang and Luslec are both aiding Baam's ascension up the tower, and to gain Thorn fragments.

You don't think both are aware that both Baam and the thorn represent a threat to their common enemy in real terms?

 

[O_n_Sly]

Which Slayer wants Gustang dead exactly?

Is that before (if it even exists anymore) Gustang betrayed Zahard? So, what then if Gustang turns against a greater foe?

What is more important: FUG targeting Gustang just because he's on a list, or taking down the Z empire and Zahard himself?





You seem to forget WHY Luslec and FUG want the FH's to go - because they've allied with Zahard. If they aren't allied, that is MOOT.

Lol WTF are you talking about slayers we’re not assigned who to target lol? White didn’t want to kill his father b/c Luslec said so, he hated his father already and wanted his head before joining FUG. I expect the same for the slayer that wants Gustang’s head

 

[lazybum]

I honestly don't know where you got that from.

Arlene couldn't kill herself because of contract, then other FH are probably in the same boat.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Lol WTF are you talking about slayers we’re not assigned who target lol? White didn’t want to kill his father b/c Luslec said so, he hated his father already and wanted his head before joining FUG. I expect the same for the slayer that wants Gustang’s head

I said they were assigned? Where?



I pointedly said, as did @sazon that a possible destruction of Zahard supersedes any beef any Slayer would have with a FH, which is minor relative to the bigger issue.

At best it would be tabled until Zahard was taken care of, then Gustang and whatever loser Slayer wants him dead can finish up.




Again, FUG (as a whole) is against the FH's because they are allied with Zahard. That isn't a problem if they aren't.

And, you can't even name a slayer, if one even exists, targeting Gustang. There may very well be a reason there isn't a current one.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Gustang is USING Baam to further his ulterior motives period. The chaos Baam brought to the tower allows Gustang to maneuver!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Gustang is USING Baam to further his ulterior motives period. The chaos Baam brought to the tower allows Gustang to maneuver!

So Baam/thorn isn't a threat to Zahard?

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Gustang is USING Baam to further his ulterior motives period. The chaos Baam brought to the tower allows Gustang to maneuver!

It's like you're THIS close to understanding 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' ideology...

 

[O_n_Sly]

Gustang didn’t care much for or believe in Baam, that’s why he gave Rachel the manta ray. Him, Urek and Garam wouldn’t of lied to or withheld some truths aboutBaam at FoD.
But OK Gustang and Luslec are now working together lol

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Gustang has harbored these feelings all along why not support FUG sooner lol

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Gustang didn’t care much for or believe in Baam, that’s why he gave Rachel the manta ray. Him, Urek and Garam wouldn’t of lied to or withheld some truths aboutBaam at FoD.
But OK Gustang and Luslec are now working together lol

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Gustang has harbored these feelings all along why support sooner lol

The joke's on you as you can't even answer simple questions or grasp the simple truth about what is going on with the relevant parties.

Gustang specifically aided Baam TWICE now. You know, the scion of his enemy according to you... "lol" indeed.

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Gustang also works with people we know that are in Baam's camp. But, yeah, "lol"

 

[O_n_Sly]

All Gustang needs to do is collect Karaka’s ring and all the 13 months and he’ll have the key to continue climbing. He does not need to face Jahad at all!!!

 

[Theorist05]

It feels like the portal in the Cat Tower is connected to the LBPs. While the one with Lyborick's is connected to the Poe Bidaus. Then that's a huge danger for the people of the Cat Tower.

THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

 

[TsukuyomiKun]

Arlene couldn't kill herself because of contract, then other FH are probably in the same boat.

This.

 

[Samdak]

And why couldn't they work together? We have some indications that Gustang works with FUG, he wouldn't work with the lower echelon.

Gustang and luslec have same goal, but they are have different way.
i think Gustang more have potential team up with workshop.

if we remember, gustang seems hate V. does it meant he hate luslec too (servant of V)
maybe Gustang hate V, because he too easy kill himself and be cowards to revenge zahard

My opinion, sorry for bad english.

 

[zoradante1]

My second theory is that she might be a hidden irregular. Again, explaining her lack of background or fear of the FH's. She's not Mas, she's Zahard's right hand. She would surely understand the power of the FH's and won't challenge them in stupidity or arrogance.

She isn't irregular as she is born on 132th floor.

 

[TsukuyomiKun]

All Gustang needs to do is collect Karaka’s ring and all the 13 months and he’ll have the key to continue climbing. He does not need to face Jahad at all!!!

Jahad manipulated, framed and sealed Gustang and Eurasia's daughter. Y'think he just wants to climb?

 

[zoradante1]

That's why I said it's a baseless theory I thought up. But if you really think about it, it's possible. Adori is said to have golden hair and eyes, stronger than every other princess despite being from a yet unamed family (could be one of the 10 GR's who knows), and is clearly unafraid of the FH's.

It's might be a long shot, but what's really stopping that from happening We know Zahard isn't impotent all it take us one horny day aybe he went to sleep to contain his horny lol).

SIU himself said "No princess has zahard's blood". If you are trying refute his words then be my guest.

 

[HakunaMatata]

All Gustang needs to do is collect Karaka’s ring and all the 13 months and he’ll have the key to continue climbing. He does not need to face Jahad at all!!!

Lmao we're talking about the 135th floor, not the entrance of your local supermaket

Jahad wants PB family annihilation, that's enough of a reason for Gustang to take action

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

All Gustang needs to do is collect Karaka’s ring and all the 13 months and he’ll have the key to continue climbing. He does not need to face Jahad at all!!!

Only.... he.... declared..... open.... war..... on.... Zahard....

You get that, right?

THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

Only the person you quoted has since rescinded that view - both go to LPB forces.

She isn't irregular as she is born on 132th floor.

'born'... there are a few that believe she's a clone of sorts (myself included). Thus, an irregular of sorts.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Jahad manipulated, framed and sealed Gustang and Eurasia's daughter. Y'think he just wants to climb?

lol how did Jahad do it? It was Gustang who created the system, so he played himself lol. System was designed to fail by Gustang, so for him to be mad about his daughter’s current condition is pretty absurd

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Only.... he.... declared..... open.... war..... on.... Zahard....

You get that, right?

Jahad cannot kill him and he cannot kill Jahad! The war is just mindless chaos until they get bored lol

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It’s like when the RoZA sent HRs after Urek inside the huge Zigenya. Just mindless death, they never stood a chance but the RoZA kept sending them!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

lol how did Jahad do it? It was Gustang who created the system, so he played himself lol. System was designed to fail by Gustang, so for him to be mad about his daughter’s current condition is pretty absurd

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Jahad cannot kill him and he cannot kill Jahad! The war is just mindless chaos until they get bored lol

I wouldn't be so certain that Zahard cannot kill Gustang.

But we do know that Gustang is arming an irregular with a weapon specifically made to kill Zahard.

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Side note, is that blue dog Venti or whatever the name is; one of Paul's guys?