Chapter Tower of God Chapter 517 Spoilers & Discussion

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That's if she doesn't turn on Hansung in a heartbeat.
True, but as stated she's already been marked as a traitor. By a guy that's willing to destroy a whole corps and capital ship for being slightly less loyal. I don't think she has any way out no matter whether she turns on YHS or not.

We also have a standoff of a male and a female vs male and a female if Lyb stays out of it. I think some at least were expecting Cha/Dowon to be the opponents of the hatchlings here, but they'll probably come late after YHS and Lefav are near death.

Lyb is obviously slated for Kallavan.

Poor outclassed YHS...

Technically Lefav is a spearbearer, her rifle transforms into a spear. But still she should not stand a chance vs these rising stars!
True, but that's not necessarily her style. She put all her stat points into attack, making her a huge glass cannon that has to operate from a distance and with stealth attacks.

What, is she going to gun-fu the female hatchling hand-to-hand with a rifle?
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My theory on what Maschenny wants of Jinsung:

Maschenny is going to ask Jinsung to make a call to Mommy or Granny for her.

She said she kidnapped Jinsung because he was like a breakwater to Baam and a very important member of the Ha Family:


She's already exploited Jinsung's connections to Baam, now it's time to exploit his connections to the Ha Family. They too must pay a ransom if they want him to be returned unharmed.

Looking at this particular passage:

I think there are good chances that Baam doesn't leave the Nest with Jinsung. Maschenny implies that Jinsung must do something for her (for Baam's sake), so it's probably not as simple as just calling home.

Maybe she gets Jinsung to promise Mommy/Granny that he'll return home. In exchange, Mommy/Granny will do something for Maschenny.

I think Maschenny wants to use the Ha Family as pieces in this conflict.



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That's a reasonable take, it opens also the way for Baam to meet Yurin Ha to deal with Yuri's situation
Leveraging the Ha relationship, very probable.

I wonder what their relationship is like at this point (Jinsung and grandma Ha), having pruned a whole branch from her tree and being aligned with FUG and all...
 

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Maschenny is not Adori's subordinate.

Adori has no actual authority to punish her.

She doesn't take orders from Adori.

Adori can forbid her from participating in future Army missions, but she can't do much more.




He's not strong enough.
Adori can make maschenny consider a traitor of zahard empire if she wants remember what has happened to yuri
 

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True, but as stated she's already been marked as a traitor. By a guy that's willing to destroy a whole corps and capital ship for being slightly less loyal. I don't think she has any way out no matter whether she turns on YHS or not.

We also have a standoff of a male and a female vs male and a female if Lyb stays out of it. I think some at least were expecting Cha/Dowon to be the opponents of the hatchlings here, but they'll probably come late after YHS and Lefav are near death.

Lyb is obviously slated for Kallavan.

Poor outclassed YHS...



True, but that's not necessarily her style. She put all her stat points into attack, making her a huge glass cannon that has to operate from a distance and with stealth attacks.

What, is she going to gun-fu the female hatchling hand-to-hand with a rifle?
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Leveraging the Ha relationship, very probable.

I wonder what their relationship is like at this point, having pruned a whole branch from her tree and being aligned with FUG and all...
I doubt it’s 2v2 Ryb should already know about Lefav’s limitations. Most likely he’ll have 1 of the rising stars prove their worth by facing them both. In this case Lefav can be a true spearbearer and support the wave controller (YHS) from a distance.
 

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True, but as stated she's already been marked as a traitor. By a guy that's willing to destroy a whole corps and capital ship for being slightly less loyal. I don't think she has any way out no matter whether she turns on YHS or not.

We also have a standoff of a male and a female vs male and a female if Lyb stays out of it. I think some at least were expecting Cha/Dowon to be the opponents of the hatchlings here, but they'll probably come late after YHS and Lefav are near death.

Lyb is obviously slated for Kallavan.

Poor outclassed YHS...



True, but that's not necessarily her style. She put all her stat points into attack, making her a huge glass cannon that has to operate from a distance and with stealth attacks.

What, is she going to gun-fu the female hatchling hand-to-hand with a rifle?
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Leveraging the Ha relationship, very probable.

I wonder what their relationship is like at this point (Jinsung and grandma Ha), having pruned a whole branch from her tree and being aligned with FUG and all...
Won't stop her from trying tho. She has kids in the family the stakes are higher for her than most of these guys that are only going wild for themselves.
 

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I don't think so, princesses have been known to keep each other in line. Anak was killed by another princess, Garam killed her sister, heck even Mas herself was part of the Enne subjugation squad. Adori is the most powerful Jahad princess and she even has a high standing in Jahads army to boot. On top of seeming fiercely loyal to Jahad, I don't think she'd need anyone's permission to even put Mas down permanently if she really wanted to.
I doubt she could act with such impunity, if that was the case there would be the all out war that she wanted instead of this crap, zahard wouldnt allow something as dumb as killing masch to happen eduan would take it as an excuse to act
 

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Going to guess Baam someday soon goes in the mouth of the snake and stabs his way out with the Black March.
Like he did on headon floor
 

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At this point the only thing I can really complain about is the characters SIU chooses to showcase! I’d rather Karaka have a moment to shine!
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EVK already showing up to the Cat Tower, I wish some other characters were allowed to shine before EVK saved the day!
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A conclusion to Hybridder v 1st divco would of been nice!
 

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Anak was killed by another princess
Ordered by Zahard.


heck even Mas herself was part of the Enne subjugation squad.
Ordered by Zahard.


Garam killed her sister
Because she went berserk when she ignited two months.


Adori is the most powerful Jahad princess and she even has a high standing in Jahads army to boot. On top of seeming fiercely loyal to Jahad, I don't think she'd need anyone's permission to even put Mas down permanently if she really wanted to.
Adori can choose to hunt Maschenny of her own volition. She can't pursue any disciplinary actions against her though.

Killing Maschenny is not a step that will be taken lightly. Eduan and Zahard are on bad terms, and Maschenny is Eduan's favourite and the central power of her Family.

It's plausible that Maschenny's deaths at the hands of the Zahard Army (Adori is the Supreme Commander) will incite total war between the Khun Family and the Zahard Army.


White was done in by (probably) the 36th ranked Hagiphone.
We don't know how much difficulty White gave her.


He's an ancient slayer.
No he's not. We don't even know if he's older than Maschenny.


Just because Bam can beat him doesn't mean he's weak. I see no reason why you'd consider Mas so powerful until we see some feats. Bam, by virtue of being stronger than White, should be able to at least stand up to her.
Maschenny told the Baam that beat White that he was too weak to side with her:
 

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In this chapter, SIU subconsciously shows his Star Wars fandom:

- We've got X-wings (their ship).

(you know what it looks like)

- Royal Guard (hooded and caped, probably based on the Swiss Guard or similar, but still):



- Female sniper/bounty-hunters (Lefav... hardly the first, but bear with me...)



- Tusken Raiders (last panel, LPB shock troops)



- Meditation Chamber (this one is more of a stretch)

 

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They shouldn’t have any since they are rising stars and not Branch Leaders! I don’t care if lefav’s weapon has 100 more transformations it has already been established that she’s barely ranker lvl without her special bullets!
who cares, you can't separate people from their skills

Baam would be a scrub if he wasn't an irregular


and?
 

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Vice Commanders ain’t shit
 

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McCage is my #1 nominee for funniest character in S3 when we have the ToG S3 Awards! Dude deserves his own comedy series, Tales of the Bumbling Fool McCage!!!
 

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Know what's better than 1 princess prisoner? 2 I'm sure gustang would hold her "hostage " if needs be, I'd love to see them both work together to bring this war to fruition while masch is clever I doubt her true intentions are lost on him
Gustang doesn't have Yuri hostage (the Zahard Army does), but I can see Maschenny working with Gustang.


Leveraging the Ha relationship, very probable.

I wonder what their relationship is like at this point (Jinsung and grandma Ha), having pruned a whole branch from her tree and being aligned with FUG and all...
I'm guessing that if not Granny, at least Mommy will want her son back.


Adori can make maschenny consider a traitor of zahard empire if she wants remember what has happened to yuri
No, that was Zahard not Adori. Zahard ordered the death of everyone on the Hell Train, and Yuri was on the Hell Train.

Yuri also chose to openly fight against the Zahard Army and impeded them from fulfilling their orders.
 

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Gustang doesn't have Yuri hostage (the Zahard Army does), but I can see Maschenny working with Gustang.



I'm guessing that if not Granny, at least Mommy will want her son back.



No, that was Zahard not Adori. Zahard ordered the death of everyone on the Hell Train, and Yuri was on the Hell Train.

Yuri also chose to openly fight against the Zahard Army and impeded them from fulfilling their orders.
I forget the exact nature of them, but what if HJ is a son of one of the twins?
 

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They can't be THAT far apart imo. White was done in by (probably) the 36th ranked Hagiphone. He's an ancient slayer. Just because Bam can beat him doesn't mean he's weak. I see no reason why you'd consider Mas so powerful until we see some feats. Bam, by virtue of being stronger than
Sometimes, I wonder what it would be like if someone with more drive had the irregular power. Someone like AA, or maybe even White?
 

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Adori can go after Mas whenever she likes, since they are both princesses!!!
Maschenny's death at the hands of the Zahard Army would be very ill advised:
Eduan and Zahard are on bad terms, and Maschenny is Eduan's favourite and the central power of her Family.

It's plausible that Maschenny's deaths at the hands of the Zahard Army (Adori is the Supreme Commander) will incite total war between the Khun Family and the Zahard Army.
 

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@Cinera only problem with your theory is that she could of easily accomplished that thru Yuri, Granny’s favorite! I imagine JH has been disowned from the Ha family for sometime now. He may have some advocates but his affairs are his own and I don’t see any Ha assistance for him. Mas mentioned earlier that the Ha’s are frustrated about Yuri’s captivity not JH’s!
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Maschenny's death at the hands of the Zahard Army would be very ill advised:
She agreed to the princess games so that makes no sense lol. If Adori is to ever win she would have to defeat Mas. AGAIN STOP BEING A DELUSIONAL STAN!!!
 
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