But, sure, since you made so many misrepresentations in one single post, here:
Never said or implied this. Rather, I've said the opposite many times.
Sure.
It just took many years, many princesses, and the combined might of irregulars to tame them and every floor. Which doesn't mean they are a MORTAL threat (maybe they actually were before the events on 100F), but the lore has indicated it was something that had to be done, and took much effort. That certainly indicates some level of threat. Do we know for instance that an irregular could hold his/her own against more than one? What if one (or more) was fully-released, what then? What if they combined their power as they are known to have been combined at one point? Obviously there was some level of concern by Zahard.
Why do you keep repeating this straw man/misrepresentation? Does asking it twice make it sound more absurd to you?
That one seemed to have splintered off into the big 5 before being faced by Zahard, and with the inclusion of the Akrinak it is clear that there are other species too that were approaching the level of the big 5.
Honestly dude... this is the third time just saying the same thing. What gives?
I don't THINK that, that's been proven to be the case.
a) we've NEVER seen the ancients go all out, rather the opposite - limiting factors such as not wanting to piss off the floor ruler or whatever
b) this chapter pointed makes a reference, if another poster is to be believed, that the Akrinak couldn't do anything as its host is/was too weak, implying it had room to stretch with a stronger host, or no host at all
c) the ancients obviously don't WANT to be sealed up - their natural state is to be free-roaming. The mere fact that anything is sealed already means it has been bested and is chained much like a Jinchuriki in Naruto. They have chains on them, it couldn't be more clear.
We actually have no that many information about how irregular defeated the ancient one .
We don't even know when the zahard princess started .
We don't even know how many years it actually took or how many opponents they faced .
Again you seem to have all this info . We actually have no idea if all irregular were needed to tame them .
You are just making lot of assumption , if i misrepresent what you mean , feel free to say it . But when i read you post i just have the impression i missed so many thing , when it is you who is making stuff up .
Again there is no lore that indicate that it took much effort to beat ancient or conqueror the tower .
I don't actually remember that there was that much opposition outside of the ancient and we have barely any information off they strenght and how much they were .
I mean you make no sense , i don't want to turn this thread into our usual irregular vs non irregular debate .
But here you are asking me if we know if a irregular could hold his own against more than one ?
The correct assumption based on the information we had so far , is that irregular are likely to be above any other race in the tower and that at some point the they could have represented a threath .
Now irregular are dozen of thousand old and they likely progressed a lot , so i don't even how it make sense that to think because they represented a threath before they would represent a threat to the current one .
So honestly the right assumption given what we have wouldn't be to assume that one or even multiple off them could even fight equally a FH .
you know , if you can prove they represented a threat to the current FH , i would answer to you question i don't know , but now i don't think i am wrong if i think even a dozen of guy like AKrinac wouldn't hold a cancle to guy like Rei .
There was some level off concern for Zahard at some point of his life , again we have no idea of how strong zahard was when he did all this thing .
If they combined maybe they could be a threat , i don't know honestly .
But Akrinac , just by itself ? I don't think so , there is no evidence that show that they can and going by what we know , i would go for Irregular stomp .
I mean even this chapter show that ancient one like Akrinac can't stand a chance and i don't what you said , but you said something like they have a full awakening , something i am not sure they have .
I am genuinely asking a question , do you think a potential fully weakened ancient one could reach or be close to a FH ?
Other species that approached the level of the big 5 ? I am not that sure about that ...
I also think that those beast that Khell , Evankell have don't fight at full power and may be limited , it may depend on the host power .
My real question would be how much you think they are nerfed , do you think they if they we'rent nerfed Nen nen would have put up a way better fight .
My personnaly opinion is that ancient one may be nerfed , because have huge AOE damage , but that it also apply to guy like Jinsung who didn't wan to go for Khun because he didn't want to piss the admin .
So ancient one may be nerfed , but the question is how much . I don't think they could suddenly become super powerful , the nerfing would be limited to the host and not causing too much damage .
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