Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...
Like I said - take it up with the planning committee. Yas, and NN.
Her Acrinak should have given her power to stop anything short of a FH. The only ones that could escape it mentally were... WW and Yas, who are on her side in this. It stopped EVERYONE that day, save those two, and they only started up again when WW beast-yelled them awake, which he wouldn't be doing in this case.
So, again, for the third time, Acrinak alone should have been sufficient for what they intended to do, save Rei.
So, again, for the third time, Yas didn't expect Rei to get involved, nor for NN to die. He expected the opposite quite obviously.
So, again, for the third time, Yas didn't throw her under the bus. You can argue his reasoning was flawed, but his motives to keep her safe were intact. And we have no reason to think she wasn't on board with his exposing them.
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He doesn't have to give a damn to be their attempted savior. He did everything he did for selfish reasons, I've fully admitted that for a while, as did Yas to WW in the dialogue.
But, it just so happens those selfish desires coincide with NN's desires to be a better parent than WW could ever be. And, in doing so, would be the salvation of the dogkin race (had Rei not stepped in of course). NN doesn't care if the cat just wants to help WW only, because their desires have mutual outcomes so she signs on.
America didn't need to know the Soviet Union had pure intent in being an ally against the Axis powers - they just needed an ally with the same motivations. I mean, it was pretty clear the Soviets weren't exactly 'pure' when they entered into an arrangement, but the greater good was stopping the Nazis.
I never said Yas wasn't working towards his own ends - that's been explicitly stated by him for many chapters now. He's not hidden what he's trying to do, or who his concern revolves around. He just HAS to be considerate of WW's people/wife/kids if he's going to get his goal to elope with him. So, even in spite of not caring for NN and the dogkin, he's STILL acting as their benefactor.
We can disagree on motives (we're actually fully in agreement), but the outcome is still heroic for the dog people, WW's kids, NN, and even WW himself though he's too stupid to realize it. They'd probably idolize Yas if he were successful, even if he's a cat, and even if they didn't know he was only doing it from selfish motivations. It would have benefited them regardless.
I mean... I agree?
And yet his actions show he is considerate of their fate. Further, only Yas is left to get the dog-babies out - he certainly doesn't HAVE to do that. Especially after WW and NN have died so his plan is a flop. But, we know he's involved in getting them away from the LPB. So, there's a certain amount of care there. It's common that people's actions and words don't always align.
I think it's much more obvious he's pressed for time and attempting to spur WW into action. He's presenting it as a choice that WW has, but by telling him the ship has already sailed he's attempting to light the fire under his ass. Now, maybe he truly doesn't care one iota about NN and the other dogs - only WW - but that doesn't somehow negate everything he's done has been in an attempt to help them - if only to make WW happier about abandoning his 'master'.
Your first line is a misinterpretation of my posts on the matter.
Your next paragraph is a straw man as I've not stated that you have argued otherwise.
You then gloss over points I've made to bring up ranking (something I hadn't brought up in the scope of this conversation this time). A flawed system for either perspective.
You miss what the writer, SIU, is doing setting up breadcrumbs and foreshadowing of their downfall. NO ONE is arguing at present they can be bested - it would take key events happening, and key players to come together. For instance, GongBang arming FUG/Gustang using the bracelet/Thorn being completed/Spells being broken/100F wish taking place/etc etc.
EVERY big bad is always invulnerable, indomitable, behind a force-field, under a spell that gives them a huge PU - whatever function is immaterial. They are always impossible to kill - until they aren't. SIU has given nods in several directions, possibly, unless he hasn't and they are misdirection. That doesn't mean they are 'wrong' 'to discuss, because we don't know what the Achilles' Heel will be - yet. But the Tower is certainly mysterious and constantly surprising with more facets and powers, and we haven't even scratched the surface. That you can't fathom alternatives to Baam punching a hole in each FH one-by-one isn't my problem.
There's no point crapping up another thread on this - I'll make a separate thread as that's a long time coming. You claim to not see any value in tit-for-tat, and yet you keep doing it (until proven wrong in the case of this chapter events).
Just know you have grossly misinterpreted my, and I'd say others, opinions on what their weak points could theoretically be. And the timeline of which each threat operates under - which is to say, in the future. The setup is far from complete in any case.
I tell you @Jubei_Kibagami shinsu just turned black around his brain because maschenny did not appear in the chapter again.. my picture work perfectly now im just have to apologies to you guys.
i think SIU use the real world logic of the dogs..
If you raise a dog.. even if you punch him, kick him.. he never going to bared the fang to you but is different if touch their kids in the case of the mother that fact can make her forget you are his master or owner..
Hitler introduced me to my wife and kids therefor I should be thankful and more subservient to him. On the heels of 'Hitler makes me feel good'
Well, there's a first for every argument. Good luck with that one.
Oh, and the dogs PROVED they could live off the radar, away from the LPB. What you chose to believe as not possible is irrelevant in light of proof of concept.
One of which is that WW should be thankful to the despotic tyrant for 'giving' him a wife and child, rather than being loyal to his family who rely on him and trust in him (in vain).
I mean you guy read the manwha like me right ? We never see WW speak about his child .
In the end everyone are following they instinct , Yas is doing that because he is a obsessed cat , the lion was thinking it was unbefitting to submit for someone like WW and couldn't undersand WW .
So WW never betrayed Nennen, Nennen betrayed WW by using his love to make him betray his master a bit.. this idea of nennen it was not produced inside her mind it was yasratcha.. she’s a women... if you think about it what nennen did is what the women does in real life.. WW is the only innocent here.
you need to understand he not a human he was ok with his treatment.
One of which is that WW should be thankful to the despotic tyrant for 'giving' him a wife and child, rather than being loyal to his family who rely on him and trust in him (in vain).
I mean you guy read the manwha like me right ? We never see WW speak about his child .
In the end everyone are following they instinct , Yas is doing that because he is a obsessed cat , the lion was thinking it was unbefitting to submit for someone like WW and couldn't undersand WW .
After sleeping on it, I’ve come to realize that WW, Nen, and Akrinic are all dumbasses. WTF did Akrinic expect would eventually happen after becoming a LPB prisoner, already knowing Nen the host was weak! WTF did Nen expect to do when she made it to the training school, she never would of made it passed the likes of Yorari or Owl! And because the characters were soo horrible it ruins the entire flashback!!!
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I’m done discussing this bs filler any further, this entire fb was unexpected and SIU’s way of doing damage control for Yama’s backstory/lore
But i can understand why some guy can see it like that .
In some way utter loyalty can be seen as admirable .
Well , i am not the exact guy you can this thing to , i don't really judge people for what they value and just accept that some people value different thing .
Yas valued doing what he wanted so he couldn't WW , the lion valued dominance so he couldn't understand WW , only WW who valued utter loyalty to a boss could understand the other .
Not to mean any disrecpect to you , but in this chapter you are like Yas , judging WW according to you own value .
People are just different , in some other country , they will think you values are stupid or make no sense . But who is right you or them ?
Maybe no one , people are naturally inclined , and also programmed to like certain value , so off course value that contradict ours sound stupid .
But in the end we can just accept that there people who value different thing .
WW was never gonna be the guy that NN and Yas wanted , we knew who he was and he stayed true to who he was .
Welp, my point was that there was no reason for yaratcha to mention NN's plan to storm the facility where her kids were being kept. other than screwing her over for the lolz apparently.
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