Chapter Tower of God Chapter 529 Spoilers & Discussion

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Translated chapter(by alpha scans)----
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I got hints that there are wild beastkin as well.

The other option is she escaped, or her ancestors did, which seems unlikely. What are the odds that a beastkin escaped from the LPB at all, and THEN got an ancient power to boot incidentally? Very low I'd say.

Also, the beastkin experiments are clear combinations of well-known animals: fish-people, squirrel-people, ram-people, and so on.

NN is clearly something else as she's not an obvious animal.

More likely is that Rei is trying to recreate things he's seen in the tower, such as beastkin.
Beastmen were created by the Pine Workshop at the request of Traum, stop making up BS LOL
 

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I got hints that there are wild beastkin as well.

The other option is she escaped, or her ancestors did, which seems unlikely. What are the odds that a beastkin escaped from the LPB at all, and THEN got an ancient power to boot incidentally? Very low I'd say.

Also, the beastkin experiments are clear combinations of well-known animals: fish-people, squirrel-people, ram-people, and so on.

NN is clearly something else as she's not an obvious animal.

More likely is that Rei is trying to recreate things he's seen in the tower, such as beastkin.



Agreed.

Also interesting that the Acrinak has managed to manipulate things to go from a Slayer to a (placeholder) back to a Slayer.

Almost as if it wants to purposefully stay on the side of strong characters that oppose Zahard and Co...



Not if it is only valuable insofar as she has the right genetics AND can produce stronger heirs.

The Acrinak, an ancient, that's been around forever in the Tower, is probably playing the long game.



This gets into the inevitability of fate argument though. Take for instance Satan, who certainly knows his fate in the Christian lore. Now, maybe he doesn't agree per se that will be the outcome. But he supposedly knows the texts and as such would know his fate - also that God is omniscient and omnipotent, i.e., a rebellion is fated to fail. And yet he tries anyways. Things that make you go hmm.
In the end , it is always the problem with such absolute power .

When those guy with those power get defeated , it always make no sense .

The same way , Baam can revive people and everytime someone died around Baam , i would be scratching my head wondering why Baam didn't save him .
 

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It would be interesting if this were one of the consequences of having acrinak in your body. It's a good point
I don't think SIU planned as far as you make it seems .

But it could be interesting to see SIU exploit that part of the story .

FUrthemore , Yama being a mad dog which is the opposite to WW being the loyal dog is peculiar .

Like is it because Yama is more human and less dog kin , or maybe Akrinac ?


Obviously the 3 pups won't be identical, and come in 3 distinct flavors, but Yama is particularly unique.

From the full transformation, to no fear, to being a 'mad dog' as you point out, to (back to my point) requiring a heavy amount of sleep. The sleep issue seems to be unique to Yama and Yama alone - the other two aren't shown to have this requirement at all. It's weird because it's not a casual relationship with sleep, like a Phonsekal being lazy, it's almost like a medical condition.

All that plays into Yama being the only host, and having physical/personality traits that are wildly different from his brothers.

That said, they have completely different mothers so who knows really.
 

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Looking ahead, Nen-Nen is dead, Ackrinak is sealed inside Yama, dogs will somehow escape, WangWang's kids will grow up, and we would be back to the present.

1) Does current Yama have a clue of what happened in the past, or does doom?
2) Is all of Ackrinak inside Yama or only a portion of him, thus making it possible for the sealed being talking to bam to still be Ackinak
3) Will Traumeiri set his eyes on Killing Yama (who has Ackrinaik).... Resulting in a return match of sorts
4) If (2) and (3) are true, then there should eventually be an explosive confrontation between Akrinakized Bam vs Traumeiri resulting in Traumeiri's defeat or/and Zahard's intervention.
5) If 4 is true, then witness the birth of a new Fug-God, no Fug Overlord.
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||6) We had our hopes up before, only to be let down, but maybe this time.....
 
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Beastmen were created by the Pine Workshop at the request of Traum, stop making up BS LOL
Address what I actually said though.

What combination is NN? Literally every other beastkin that's an experiment you can tell in a fraction of a second.

So what's her animal DNA contribution from?
 

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If Zahard really saw fate and clearly he would saw that he was destined to be defeated .
Kinda? I think the implication here remains that bam is... invisible to people who see fate though.
 

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I mean am i wrong ?

TOG is not the type of story with good guy , it is more nuanced .

Maschenny could vie for the worst type of persone honestly .

Jahad want to be king , FH don't give a shit about anyone .

FUG want power .

Maschenny genuinely love chaos and bloodshed .

But you know what ? I genuinely love that crazy bitch psycho and how she stacked her live against Zahard and died fulfilled despite her defeat , the same way i respect her trying to outsmart FH .
Nah, I agree with you, it's just that cinera always does something to put maschenny above everything else, it's funny.
 

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Obviously the 3 pups won't be identical, and come in 3 distinct flavors, but Yama is particularly unique.

From the full transformation, to no fear, to being a 'mad dog' as you point out, to (back to my point) requiring a heavy amount of sleep. The sleep issue seems to be unique to Yama and Yama alone - the other two aren't shown to have this requirement at all. It's weird because it's not a casual relationship with sleep, like a Phonsekal being lazy, it's almost like a medical condition.

All that plays into Yama being the only host, and having physical/personality traits that are wildly different from his brothers.

That said, they have completely different mothers so who knows really.
Will see , but the 3 bro are mad dog , so honestly it really seem weird .

It also beg the question how much those beast kin are impacted by they race .

Like all 3 bro are mad dog when they mother are different .

It is also so funny how can Rei , say to WW go fuck that chick , after that go fuck this one .

I also wonder what type of plan he had with Yama , like Rei basically created Yama .
 

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Address what I actually said though.

What combination is NN? Literally every other beastkin that's an experiment you can tell in a fraction of a second.

So what's her animal DNA contribution from?
Don’t know, don’t care. SIU never bothered to address it, so it must not matter! Doom has wings and is supposedly 100% hound, SIU could of covered his origin but didn’t as well!
 

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Nah, I agree with you, it's just that cinera always does something to put maschenny above everything else, it's funny.
Bwahaha let us see how he come out of the trap i laid for him .
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Don’t know, don’t care. SIU never bothered to address it, so it must not matter! Doom has wings and is supposedly 100% hound, SIU could of covered his origin but didn’t as well!
You are right , that it is weird that one of the most important thing between Yas and Yama , the fang was basically never mentionned .
 

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Don’t know, don’t care. SIU never bothered to address it, so it must not matter! Doom has wings and is supposedly 100% hound, SIU could of covered his origin but didn’t as well!
How is Doom 100% hound? We don't even know his mother, of if she has any interesting traits.

I'd also like to know where the fang-monster that both Doom and Yama can control came from, and Paul's living shinsoo. But, you also want the FB to be over already, so.....



I guess you concede that we in fact don't know what NN is it seems.
 

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You are right , that it is weird that one of the most important thing between Yas and Yama , the fang was basically never mentionned .
Exactly, because the Fang is Akrinic and was never from WW! It was shared between the bros and Yas! When Yas is in FT Vs Yama that same purple smoke appears that we see around Akrinic
 

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Will see , but the 3 bro are mad dog , so honestly it really seem weird .

It also beg the question how much those beast kin are impacted by they race .

Like all 3 bro are mad dog when they mother are different .

It is also so funny how can Rei , say to WW go fuck that chick , after that go fuck this one .

I also wonder what type of plan he had with Yama , like Rei basically created Yama .
Rei was certainly creating superior dogs, or experimenting to do such, or attempting to make new types of breeds (or all 3).

It's kind of how real-life dog owners do the same, forcing mating pairs to get pure-blooded registrant breeds, or how new breeds entirely are created.


The other 2 'mad dogs' though have finally conceded that Yama is the best fit. Yama, who has more tricks up his sleeves that the other two, more power, and the Acrinak. Can't be coincidental.




WTF ever happened with that experimentation by the dogs in the Cage prior to the assault at the Nest btw?? The mentioning of using Varagarv's response to not being controlled or whatever. An unknown backer of the experiment. Seems like it was to have a big deal payoff, and I don't even remember it being relevant at any level.
 

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How is Doom 100% hound? We don't even know his mother, of if she has any interesting traits.

I'd also like to know where the fang-monster that both Doom and Yama can control came from, and Paul's living shinsoo. But, you also want the FB to be over already, so.....



I guess you concede that we in fact don't know what NN is it seems.
S3ch84 Doom says his mother is a canine and because he’s 100% he can share his power! I don’t think the traits of any of their mothers is important! Nen is only important because she’s a host for an ancient
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Paul going berserk or being unable to use too much of his abilities, hmm sounds familiar!
 

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S3ch84 Doom says his mother is a canine and because he’s 100% he can share his power! I don’t think the traits of any of their mothers is important! Nen is only important because she’s a host for an ancient
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Paul going berserk or being unable to use too much of his abilities, hmm sounds familiar!
OK, fair enough about Doom's mom. I'm assuming your research is correct though. Wings are odd in that case.

However.

NN doesn't have ANY animal traits. At all. Only the horn, which we've seen in other natives in the Tower. It's not, say, crocodile features and then randomly a horn, or feathers, or wings on top of the obvious primary animal traits. It's just a normal looking human with a horn.

And if NN is an experiment, how did she escape, with memories of growing up elsewhere, outside of the LPB ship?

And you still haven't solved the mystery of why the Acrinak would choose NN of all people, which it recognizes as 'weak'. It's last house was a Slayer - a mansion by comparison the the shack that is NN. So, why her if she is not special in any way at all?
 

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The issue here is NN, it has not been confirmed that she is a beastkin, we only know that she comes from an ancient bloodline.
The chapter we first saw her at mentioned she was a beastkin though. What we don't know is what manner of beastkin she is though.
 

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The chapter we first saw her at mentioned she was a beastkin though. What we don't know is what manner of beastkin she is though.
This is true. She's confirmed a beastkin.

But we don't know if natural or lab-made. She doesn't have memories of being controlled by the LPB or escaping. The forces were there for the Acrinak, not her. She's not likely an escapee.

And then there's the obvious that she's different from every other lab-made beastkin in the sense that we can't tell what animal she is, if any.



I think there are simply animal hybrids in the tower naturally. I mean, I thought this was established from 1F onward.
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OK, I mean 2F, but the point remains.
 

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OK, fair enough about Doom's mom. I'm assuming your research is correct though. Wings are odd in that case.

However.

NN doesn't have ANY animal traits. At all. Only the horn, which we've seen in other natives in the Tower. It's not, say, crocodile features and then randomly a horn, or feathers, or wings on top of the obvious primary animal traits. It's just a normal looking human with a horn.

And if NN is an experiment, how did she escape, with memories of growing up elsewhere, outside of the LPB ship?

And you still haven't solved the mystery of why the Acrinak would choose NN of all people, which it recognizes as 'weak'. It's last house was a Slayer - a mansion by comparison the the shack that is NN. So, why her if she is not special in any way at all?
I think he just chose the host that he found .

Finding talent at slayer level , evankhell or Khell level should be rare .

Most ancient should be in the hand of weak host , i think .

Exactly, because the Fang is Akrinic and was never from WW! It was shared between the bros and Yas! When Yas is in FT Vs Yama that same purple smoke appears that we see around Akrinic
Seems weird to share Akrinac , maybe the fang will come into play after WW death and they will find the fang that make WW so undomitable .
 

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On this:

a) To me the most obvious is Zahard knows Yas' skill-set, which is a natural foil for the dogs, as he can control them. That's an obvious win for team Z if the enemy's heavy-hitter(s) are preoccupied being controlled. It wasn't until Cha was woken up that Yas was recalled. Makes me wonder if ZoA knew that was too much for the 5th to handle, but that they were left to take care of things prior to that. If Chi is that powerful that is, who knows. Either way, I'd imagine Yas' powers over canines is known by Zahard & Co. at the very least.

b) That said, there is this recurring theme of FHs - from Zahard to Rei in these very chapters - setting things up just to see if the loyalty is valid or not. Scenarios are created to tempt the pawns into breaking their loyalty. Call it boredom really. Those two particularly (probably all the other FHs as well) have really bad abandonment issues/anxiety, so they decide to shit-test everyone they can.

c) I still think it's odd that Yas is in the control of Zahard now, not Rei who is territorial over his 'pets' - I wonder how exactly that pivot came. Did Rei brown-nose some more by giving a strong pet to Zahard? Did Zahard make the demand? Did Rei dismiss or abandon Yas as a failed experiment, bad cat? It doesn't seem Yas could just leave on his own devices, or escape the gravity of the LPB as it were.
a.- Agreed. I wonder how zahard knows though. Because he can see fate and saw yaratcha doing this?

b.- Also true. it seems like neither would settle for anything less than blind fanatism regardless of context.

c.- I don't think zahard's fate related abilities mean he is directly controlling anyone. Direct control is traumerei's schtick. Zahard's deal strikes me more as controlling causality, the metaverse or something to that effect.
 

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Rei was certainly creating superior dogs, or experimenting to do such, or attempting to make new types of breeds (or all 3).

It's kind of how real-life dog owners do the same, forcing mating pairs to get pure-blooded registrant breeds, or how new breeds entirely are created.


The other 2 'mad dogs' though have finally conceded that Yama is the best fit. Yama, who has more tricks up his sleeves that the other two, more power, and the Acrinak. Can't be coincidental.




WTF ever happened with that experimentation by the dogs in the Cage prior to the assault at the Nest btw?? The mentioning of using Varagarv's response to not being controlled or whatever. An unknown backer of the experiment. Seems like it was to have a big deal payoff, and I don't even remember it being relevant at any level.
So you think is the one responsible for the bro mad dog nature ?

That trait also seem to apply to the fodder md dog , while it seems WW dog didn't have that nature .
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a.- Agreed. I wonder how zahard knows though. Because he can see fate and saw yaratcha doing this?

b.- Also true. it seems like neither would settle for anything less than blind fanatism regardless of context.

c.- I don't think zahard's fate related abilities mean he is directly controlling anyone. Direct control is traumerei's schtick. Zahard's deal strikes me more as controlling causality, the metaverse or something to that effect.
Zahard sees fate , and he is currently trying to control it .

Maybe he already mastered some of that power .

So will Baam end up mastering fate like power ?
 
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