Chapter Tower of God Chapter 530 Spoilers & Discussion

[Cinera]

@Demonspeed, @Lady pompom: please pin.

 

[Jyu viole grace]

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Translated chapter (by alpha scans)---

Tower Of God Chapter 530 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[Ignorant]

It still makes me laugh that this guy is right hand man of adori............

To be right hand you need to be a fanatic and that’s who he is.. so he dont need strength but loyalty

 

[sazon]

This is overrating White.

And Maschenny (who) by all indications should have seen Baam's fight with White told Baam that as he was too weak to join hands with her

It's not overestimating White, it's just giving it some thought.

Baam was already stronger than White in that fight, the same White who is considered one of the strongest Arie. And in the end he still absorbed ALL his power.

Add Baam's power at that moment + White's power he absorbed, so yeah, maybe there's no one in the nest besides Trau who can handle him. Not even your fate-twisting baby dragon.

Can you prove she saw the fight? No, just as I can't prove she didn't see it.

So, for me it's much more coherent to think that she didn't see it and is being super arrogant than her being absurdly stronger than White, because she never showed anything to confirm this

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This chapter has 17 pages thanks to cinera who always try to put us on maschenny side

Maschenny could very well manipulate the fate of SIU to rewrite this chapter.

 

[Ignorant]

Let cinera speak about Mas all he want.. bro just trying to save us for this boring chapter..

Even if he has no base, he’s a hero to me

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If baam doesn’t get any help from others FH
Its better for the story that some regulars actually have the power to face a family head w/o that cowardly contract they have.

 

[O_n_Sly]

Baam is not getting an Ancient, he’s getting another Thryssa or an admin!

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Traum imprisoned the floor administrator, I’m guessing!

 

[Ignorant]

Could be a new team member!

 

[O_n_Sly]

Even the speech bubble is identical to that of the Floor 2 administrator when it spoke to Baam

 

[Ignorant]

whatever is there recognized the need of being a irregular to face a GW

 

[lazybum]

Can you prove she saw the fight? No, just as I can't prove she didn't see it.

There were camera in the field, the camera went kaput when Baam went berserk, before that they can see White and Baam duking out. Afterwards, Baam appeared before Mas, White is nowhere to be seen, instead there's just Vicente. Maschenny likely put 1+1=2.

 

[O_n_Sly]

The being controls shinsu only admin and Hell Joe can do that!

 

[Ignorant]

The being controls shinsu only admin and Hell Joe can do that!

You think admin from 44 floor and 2 floor are helping baam because they want him to rescue his colleague ?

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He even sent EVK to baam!

 

[sazon]

There were camera in the field, the camera went kaput when Baam went berserk, before that they can see White and Baam duking out. Afterwards, Baam appeared before Mas, White is nowhere to be seen, instead there's just Vicente. Maschenny likely put 1+1=2.

The question is not whether White was defeated, it is how.

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If even Zahard can't do anything with an ADM, how the hell would Trau arrest one?

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Traum imprisoned the floor administrator, I’m guessing!

Oh, come on. Even for you.

 

[lazybum]

The question is not whether White was defeated, it is how.

At very least she knows Baam is around White level. To which she evaluates not good enough in her book. Unless she has other means to see Baam, she likely hasn't seen Baam dominating White. In fact the whole Baam changing shinsu around him probably made it impossible to be seen in a normal manner.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Sly, how is anyone using Shinsoo on this floor then?
How does something that CONTROLS shinsoo, get put in a cage made of shinsoo?
How can Rei do something that Zahard can't even do?

Rei also calls it a TRIFLE in the FB... you think he'd call the de facto ancient tower gods trifles?

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Rei sees everything in the tower as a trifle. A trifle tower if you will.

(a trifle tower)

Maybe dude's just hungry.

 

[Ignorant]

Sly, how is anyone using Shinsoo on this floor then?
How does something that CONTROLS shinsoo, get put in a cage made of shinsoo?
How can Rei do something that Zahard can't even do?

Rei also calls it a TRIFLE in the FB... you think he'd call the de facto ancient tower gods trifles?

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Rei sees everything in the tower as a trifle. A trifle tower if you will.

(a trifle tower)

Maybe dude's just hungry.

That trifle looks great

 

[Big-Bird]

According to who exactly? Beasts are in fact creatures.

BEAST Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com

BEAST definition: any nonhuman animal, especially a large, four-footed mammal. See examples of beast used in a sentence.

www.dictionary.com

"1. any nonhuman animal, especially a large, four-footed mammal.
2. the crude animal nature common to humans and the lower animals:Hunger brought out the beast in him.
3. a cruel, coarse, filthy, or otherwise beastlike person.
4. a live creature, as distinguished from a plant:What manner of beast is this?"

Not off to a good start, and semantics' games are exceedingly boring.



Wrong again. BTW, why are you arguing against this anyways? Are you in such denial that you can't accept the 'thing' in the seal can't possibly be a native or other ancient - which, by the way, present as beastly creatures(!). What exactly do you think "species" is in reference to anyways! It is the KIND or SORT of beast or creature in referencing format. A giant cat shinheuh is a different SPECIES from a giant fish shinheuh, and yet both are shinheuh as creatures or beasts of the tower. FFS, man.

Shinheuh

Shinheuh (신해어 (神海魚) sinhaeeo,[1] literally "Divine Sea Fish" or "Divine Sea Aquatic Animal") refers to the various creatures encountered in the Tower. While the literal translation does mean "aquatic animal", because shinsu itself means "divine water", the term actually refers to any animal that...

towerofgod.fandom.com

"Shinheuh (신해어 (神海魚) sinhaeeo[1], literally "Divine Sea Fish" or "Divine Sea Aquatic Animal") refers to the various creatures encountered in the Tower."

Fiery Elephant

Fiery Elephant (name unknown) is a giant ancient creature that chose Evankhell as it's host. The ancient creature has a form that resembles a giant red humanoid elephant with two hands. It looks like a fiery Ganesha. It is sentient, it has personality and can talk to its host, Evankhell. The...

towerofgod.fandom.com

"Fiery Elephant (name unknown) is a giant ancient creature[2] that chose Evankhell as it's host.[1]" (the same definition is listed in the Wood Minotaur wiki as well, referencing it as an ancient creature)

So, yes in fact, right or wrong the wiki does in fact classify the ancient beasts as CREATURES - the same as shinheuh are called, CREATURES. Because, they are, very obviously both just that - CREATURES.

Further, listed and shown in the "known shinheuhs" section of the wiki are, among others:

- Fiery Elephant (an ancient, Native One power)
- Wood Minotaur (same as above)
- "Legendary Giant of the Tower" (i.e., the OG Native One, a literal giant. Here's an excerpt from the Cambridge definition of a 'giant': "an imaginary creature like a man but extremely tall, strong, and usually very cruel, appearing especially in children's stories"
- "Unnamed Ancient Monster" (one of the ancient monsters shown to have the ability to respawn unless sealed. BTW, 'monster' definition: "an imaginary creature that is typically large, ugly, and frightening."

Again, at least the wiki has classified them as TYPES of shinheuh (being tower creatures). And further, defines all the following as creatures: from the generic shinheuh definition (posted above) to the ancient powers (posted above) to the Native One itself to the ancient reincarnating monster. All creatures and/or beasts in the tower.

End of story.

Whenever the term creature in the series was used to refer to the shinneuh. But I admit that it may be a translation quirk so I'll concede that part.

And why should I value your Wiki articles?
They are not sourced so they are just statements I should listen to why (Where are their sources for classification?) because they say so?
I'll put it more simply to save us both time: get your sophistry of authority out of my face and show me some real proof that the ancients are shinheuh.
(you know blog, statement in the series this kind of thing)

I 'keep talking about him' because it was painfully, obviously shown that he wasn't "impressive" only due to his host, and not his own inherent capabilities, which are in fact impossible for you or I or anyone but what is in SIU's head to know at this point. As such, talking about him in relation to other ancients that may or may not have similar handicaps is pertinent. There is NO takeaway from a power-leveling perspective with his fight against Rei. The only fact we can glean from it is that a stronger host would mean, per Acrinak, he'd be able to have a stronger showing. How much stronger, well we don't know!

Are you kidding me? you're the one who brought Acrinak into the conversation, I told you he got beaten so there's nothing to take from his performance and you don't have to talk about him. But you keep coming back to the point. If you want to fantasize about his hypothetical and (for now) very unquantifiable power then go ahead but do it away from this "discussion" he doesn't belong there.

Placeholder for the rest when I can get to it. Needless to say the rest is just as bad.

I'm beginning to find you condescending, I didn't patronise you so I'm going to ask you to calm down

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Whenever the term creature in the series was used to refer to the shinneuh. But I admit that it may be a translation quirk so I'll concede that part.

And why should I value your Wiki articles?
They are not sourced so they are just statements I should listen to why (Where are their sources for classification?) because they say so?
I'll put it more simply to save us both time: get your sophistry of authority out of my face and show me some real proof that the ancients are shinheuh.
(you know blog, statement in the series this kind of thing)





Are you kidding me? you're the one who brought Acrinak into the conversation, I told you he got beaten so there's nothing to take from his performance and you don't have to talk about him. But you keep coming back to the point. If you want to fantasize about his hypothetical and (for now) very unquantifiable power then go ahead but do it away from this "discussion" he doesn't belong there.






I'm beginning to find you condescending, I didn't patronise you so I'm going to ask you to calm down

BB: argues about what's in the wiki articles
Me: shows him that's not the case
...
BB: and why should I concern myself with wiki articles?



Yup, seems legit.

Anywho, the sources are in fact linked (in each article). But at the very least there are wiki authors that see things my way.

Edit: At some point you'll have to accept all we have is what the loose definitions of things are, and then the meaning of words. A beast in the tower is a beast in the tower. An animal is a beast. An elephant is an animal. Even if can control fire. Not all shinheuh are the same. There seem to be different sizes, levels, ages, animal types, etc. I mean, crystal fish aren't exactly real animals any more than a giant elemental minotaur is. And yet they are both classified as shinheuh as they are types of creatures one can find in the tower. As opposed to humanoids.

A shinheuh is a creature in the tower. All creatures in the tower are made up of, and rely on shinsoo. Hence, the name 'shinheuh' is related to this fact (the 'divine' in the name). Give me an example of something that's in the tower that isn't an irregular and isn't made up and reliant on shinsoo...

There's not going to be some blog from SIU stating precisely what he means when he says 'beast' or animal or what the definition of 'is' is...

I mean, I even include the quotes from the wiki which have the references (blogs, chapters) cited. If you don't agree with the sources by all means explain why. But at this point you're just arguing 'muh wikipedia dumb' and throwing your hands up.

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Are you kidding me? you're the one who brought Acrinak into the conversation, I told you he got beaten so there's nothing to take from his performance and you don't have to talk about him. But you keep coming back to the point. If you want to fantasize about his hypothetical and (for now) very unquantifiable power then go ahead but do it away from this "discussion" he doesn't belong there.

READ what I said again. I'm not saying the Acrinak ISN'T relevant; I'm saying it is. In the sense that we can't use his performance against Rei to throw the baby out with the bathwater about his potential threat-level because he was severely limited in that engagement.

You're hyper-focused on him 'getting beaten' to the point that you think if you just keep repeating that it actually addresses the FACT that the Acrinak hints it has much more in the tank, but couldn't show it.

i.e., the Acrinak getting beaten is irrelevant. But the Acrinak being a potential threat is still on the table. You want to gloss over the fact that there are those in the tower than Rei cannot impose his will on. We have 1, maybe 2 in the span of two freaking chapters.

If that's not relevant in the context of what could be in the seal and what implications that could have, I don't know what is.

 

[Ignorant]

BB: argues about what's in the wiki articles
Me: shows him that's not the case
...
BB: and why should I concern myself with wiki articles?



Yup, seems legit.

Anywho, the sources are in fact linked. But at the very least there are wiki authors that see things my way.

There’s people who debate to understand and explain a point and others who don’t even read they just wanted answer you to not lose the debate

 

[DeadCosmos]

Baam is not getting an Ancient, he’s getting another Thryssa or an admin!

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Traum imprisoned the floor administrator, I’m guessing!

very funny

 

[Ignorant]

So Traumerei you want the Twins to be loyal to you or zahard i’ll be waiting...