Chapter Tower of God Chapter 536 Spoilers & Discussion

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Tower of God Chapter 536 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[AshDVanguard]

In the case of bam it's a far more reasonable explanation that bam's reinforcement was simply good enough for a task. Bam's never been the type to simply take damage with no reinforcement after all. And while bam apparently lacks reinforcement shinsoo attributes so far he is still pretty competent at it which has made it into a viable lifeline for him through his climb. Add to that, most of the powerups bam would have gone through absolutely do have an effect on how potent his reinforcement is. There's no specific reason for us to think that the powerups bam has undergone actually have an effect on his base body strength...

Base body strength is a different thing from anything shinsoo related. People with strong bodies in this series can do extraordinary things without a speck of reinforcement. Like kallavan eating white's sword slashes at the wall of peaceful coexistence. Stack any amount of reinforcement over that and you get a living fortress like kallavan...

In the same breath there's no evidence to say all his power ups have not increased his physical strength to even compare this which I think doesn't even need to be compared both of them need to take a punch from kallavan without reinenforcement personally my money is on baam

 

[Ignorant]

yeah I was wrong Yuri is Yurin's granddaughter and not his great granddaughter, it doesn't negate my point about the percentage of gene blocked at 50% to qualify as a DD is not a thing, neither in the show nor IRL
And 75% Mas is not a thing either, we don't know if Mas mother is the daughter or a distant descendant of Eduan or even if it is a misunderstanding

Who told you edhan fuck his own family??
bro edhan is 100% irregular if he have a daughter with an inhabitant if the tower both put his 50% genes simple logic
Plus the zahard blood injected in her.. simple maths. Could be 55% 60% 75% we don’t know how much of zahard DNA is injected in every princesses
That’s why Enne was so strong in just 432 years old
(3) irregulars blood in her…

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Can’t be a missundertanding is just imposible they are humans they just have his last name because they are wife maybe you not marry to know this basic thing but i am..

You preffer to believe something like that? LOL

 

[King Dryst]

I hope in the later story baam will fight one of zahard princess and we will see how durable their body each other.

I sort of doubt he will. While he did do it once with Kaiser, I don't get the feeling that SIU is altogether gung-ho about having his male protagonist beat up on female characters.

 

[kkck]

In the same breath there's no evidence to say all his power ups have not increased his physical strength to even compare this which I think doesn't even need to be compared both of them need to take a punch from kallavan without reinenforcement personally my money is on baam

Welp, the point I would make is that the story has simply not treated physical strength like that. The story is generally consistent in this being a sort of innate stat that's not affected by shinsoo powerups or even control. That's why through the story bam has remained consistently frail for the tiers he tries to punch at, his shinsoo growth does not equate to physical strength growth. I don't think there would be even a bloodstain left if kallavan punches unreinforced bam or any variety of androsi.

 

[sazon]

DD or direct descendant is what it means to be a "direct descendant".

The problem is that we don't know the line between a DD and ID (Indirect descendant)

Based on the IRL def a DD is this

So
LPB Yorari = DD
LPB Orari= DD
Ha yuri = DD (she calls herself a DD of the Ha family)
Yihwa= DD
Jinsung= DD
Inieta=ID

SIU only counts children as DD, grandchildren and the like are not counted. Yuri is a great-granddaughter while HJ is a grandson and they are not counted as DDs.

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she is 50% irregular she is DD. She herself say it one time

When does she say that?

The only thing that is said in the story is that the yuri lineage is very powerful and formed by several DDs from different families.

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It was stated multiple times than Endorsi's body is tougher than Baam. Baam have to use shinsoo boost to overcome it.

That's because she has what? An irregular's blood boost and that was before Baam completed his pot training.

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Why the princesses are so strong? Because they injected them with king blood, irregular blood.. well

Princesses are not necessarily strong because they have zahard blood, but because they are capable of receiving such power.

The princesses of the 10 families are monsters that were chosen even in the midst of so many talents.

While the other princesses are monsters because they were chosen even without any special bloodlines.

Zahard's power is a great boost, but in the end, what makes princesses monstrous is their natural talent associated with zahard's power.

 

[King Dryst]

I don't buy it either. One of the murals on Haedon's wall was Zahad (imo) standing over a burning forest..

Burning down Byak's forest during the wedding of Garam & Urek would be the best way to start a war if that was the desire

Well, whatever Zahard might do at some point doesn't necessarily preclude the idea of Traumerei being killed here. But I don't think he will be. Baam probably isn't notching a feat like that (as SIU is generally unwilling to give him major accomplishments of any sort) and the idea of someone else here doing so is laughable.

 

[aidkim]

Hey, I am rereading TOG and I have a question. In chapter 12, there's this guy that can't pass the barrier. There are others too, but this guy made me think of the question. Why was he picked by Headon to climb the tower if he can't even live through Shinshu density from the 30th floor? Lee Ro explains in chapter 11 that regulars showcase their talent and get the right to climb, but people like him have no shot at all of actually climbing the tower? He talks about the limits of a person, and they all have them, but what is the point for him to be picked if his potential can't even reach half of the known tower?

 

[sazon]

LMAO people talking about Endorsi being tougher when Bam blocked Whites's sword with his fucking hands?

Of course, Baam's physical strength has already surpassed Androssi's, but using this feat as a comparison makes no sense.

The SIU issue was about physical abilities, not Shinsoo reinforcement. Baam definitely used reinforcement to stop White, not just force.

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Maybe DD was the wrong word and it should of been Family Prodigy. SIU doesn’t use DD much anymore. Not all FH children are special, Kuhn has a bunch and the only special ones are Mas and Ran!!! Yuri like the two Kuhns is a Family Prodigy, same goes for Yihwa, Elaine, Satcha, and maybe JH!!!

AA is as talented as Ran, the only difference being that he didn't have such a good position in the family.

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yuri is the daughter of one of the twin who are 100% irregular blood.. if they have kids they born with a 50% you say it yourself yet you don’t get it.. this is not about to win the debate is fact bro
Plus yuri have zahard blood so probably she’s along with maschenny 75% irregular blood in her.. is simple maths

She is granddaughter, son is HJ.

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Speaking of SIU himself, due to her powerful lineage, Yuri is treated as a DD, but she is not a proper one.

 

[aidkim]

Of course, Baam's physical strength has already surpassed Androssi's, but using this feat as a comparison makes no sense.

The SIU issue was about physical abilities, not Shinsoo reinforcement. Baam definitely used reinforcement to stop White, not just force.

I see, but we can basically never know I think. Androssi herself hasn't been mentioned in a long while and I don't think Bam's physical non-reinforced stats will be discussed, he does look pretty buff now though. I doubt that Bam's base is worse than Androssi's at this point, after his martial arts training.

 

[Ignorant]

Of course, Baam's physical strength has already surpassed Androssi's, but using this feat as a comparison makes no sense.

The SIU issue was about physical abilities, not Shinsoo reinforcement. Baam definitely used reinforcement to stop White, not just force.

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AA is as talented as Ran, the only difference being that he didn't have such a good position in the family.

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She is granddaughter, son is HJ.

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Speaking of SIU himself, due to her powerful lineage, Yuri is treated as a DD, but she is not a proper one.

wrong.. she called yurin grandmother because she’s the mother of his father/mother.
she say she is a DD from the Ha.
im going show you the panels later..
Data zahard say princesses’s body are suppose to be 10K more durable than the regular people..
yes they have to be capable of receive the blood w/o dying but what make them special is the zahard blood
There’s Talent all over the tower so..

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Of course, Baam's physical strength has already surpassed Androssi's, but using this feat as a comparison makes no sense.

The SIU issue was about physical abilities, not Shinsoo reinforcement. Baam definitely used reinforcement to stop White, not just force.

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AA is as talented as Ran, the only difference being that he didn't have such a good position in the family.

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She is granddaughter, son is HJ.

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Speaking of SIU himself, due to her powerful lineage, Yuri is treated as a DD, but she is not a proper one.

That’s don’t deny the fact, about the “proper” word you used SIU never suggested that you added by your own.

 

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Thanks and gratitude for reposting Shin Translation.

 

[Ignorant]

Fun fact: is probably that Jwangnan have 50% of zahard genetics lol and you know how incapable he is Lol any being a DD don’t say specifically you going to be great we know few case of grand grand children's being better than the DD ex: Elaine

 

[lazybum]

Hey, I am rereading TOG and I have a question. In chapter 12, there's this guy that can't pass the barrier. There are others too, but this guy made me think of the question. Why was he picked by Headon to climb the tower if he can't even live through Shinshu density from the 30th floor? Lee Ro explains in chapter 11 that regulars showcase their talent and get the right to climb, but people like him have no shot at all of actually climbing the tower? He talks about the limits of a person, and they all have them, but what is the point for him to be picked if his potential can't even reach half of the known tower?

Headon likely has better tools to judge someone's worth to climb the tower than a simple ranker like Leero, so maybe the regular has a genuine chance to succeed, albeit with much more difficult than a talented individual. Or Headon is recruiting people who can climb to the top, and people who can be used as obstacle to the former (using them as stepping stone to reach higher height). We don't really know how Headon select people I think.

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If DD in TOG's case is direct kids of an Irregular, then Yuri isn't a DD, at most she's the kid of one of the Ha twins. But it is said Yuri has a great lineage (I assume she has pure Irregulars genes, there is no tower inhabitant in her bloodline at least) and she greatly resemble to Ha Yurin.

 

[kkck]

SIU only counts children as DD, grandchildren and the like are not counted. Yuri is a great-granddaughter while HJ is a grandson and they are not counted as DDs.

We don't exactly know this. As far as we know every family has different standards for what is or isn't a DD. There's no evidence that yuri or ha jinsung are not considered direct descendants by whichever arbitrary criteria the ha family has for that. Also at least once yuri calls herself one.

Tower of God - [Season 2] Ep. 336

What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever you desire—it's here.

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[sazon]

I see, but we can basically never know I think. Androssi herself hasn't been mentioned in a long while and I don't think Bam's physical non-reinforced stats will be discussed, he does look pretty buff now though. I doubt that Bam's base is worse than Androssi's at this point, after his martial arts training.

But that's exactly what I'm talking about.

Androssi at best has the same physical prowess as a ranker and that alone is quite an accomplishment.

Baam is already at the top of the HR league and he directly trained his base in martial arts. He must be far superior to her at this point.

But linking his feat to stop White's sword to his physical strength is wrong for me, because Baam is not the physical type, there's definitely his shinsoo reinforcement there.

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wrong.. she called yurin grandmother because she’s the mother of his father/mother.
she say she is a DD from the Ha.
im going show you the panels later..
Data zahard say princesses’s body are suppose to be 10K more durable than the regular people..
yes they have to be capable of receive the blood w/o dying but what make them special is the zahard blood
There’s Talent all over the tower so..

I don't know about your country, but here we call great-grandmothers the same grandparents.

Yes, there are several talents in the tower, but that's precisely why the princesses are monstrous, the test is extremely difficult and the biggest political apex in most families, this alone already makes the princesses on another level.

If you know around which part she says that I can look it up myself.

 

[lazybum]

But linking his feat to stop White's sword to his physical strength is wrong for me, because Baam is not the physical type, there's definitely his shinsoo reinforcement there.

White notice that Baam's shinsu is rotting his sword. Also White remarks "His improvement in physical strength is ridiculous" after Baam grabbed his swords barehanded. I assume White meant shinsu reinforcement, as before Baam "dying" White was able to cut Baam just fine.

 

[sazon]

That’s don’t deny the fact, about the “proper” word you used SIU never suggested that you added by your own.

Just look at the tt after that one, he talks about But, same thing.

With the difference that she is eduan's daughter while Yuri is not yurin's daughter.

Until today we have not had a person who is not a son of FH mentioned as DD.

While this doesn't change Yuri's feats, it's just the willingness SIU has shown.

Elaine is from a branch and is considered more talented than many DD LPB's.

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Fun fact: is probably that Jwangnan have 50% of zahard genetics lol and you know how incapable he is Lol any being a DD don’t say specifically you going to be great we know few case of grand grand children's being better than the DD ex: Elaine

But nobody is saying that being a DD makes you better than others, when history has already proven that it doesn't. It's just a matter of definition

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We don't exactly know this. As far as we know every family has different standards for what is or isn't a DD. There's no evidence that yuri or ha jinsung are not considered direct descendants by whichever arbitrary criteria the ha family has for that. Also at least once yuri calls herself one.

Tower of God - [Season 2] Ep. 336

What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever you desire—it's here.

www.webtoons.com

No, to this day there is nothing that says that there is a different pattern of DD for each family, except for the Yeon family, which has a special case.

SIU himself said that due to Yuri's powerful lineage she is treated as a DD, this is the same as AA not being treated as a DD because of her maternal lineage, and her shinsoo quality is something that only DD Koon have.

You see, it's one thing for you to be treated in the hierarchy as a DD, it's another, according to SIU standards, to be one.

HJ has been told numerous times that he was an important member of the Ha, but he was never treated as a DD, which Ran or Maschenny have been treated several times.

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White notice that Baam's shinsu is rotting his sword. Also White remarks "His improvement in physical strength is ridiculous" after Baam grabbed his swords barehanded. I assume White meant shinsu reinforcement, as before Baam "dying" White was able to cut Baam just fine.

Yes, because reinforcement is the big thing here.

Baam is a WC by nature, he shouldn't develop so fast in full physical feats as it's not his forte, so the boost is there to compensate for that.

 

[aidkim]

But that's exactly what I'm talking about.

Androssi at best has the same physical prowess as a ranker and that alone is quite an accomplishment.

Baam is already at the top of the HR league and he directly trained his base in martial arts. He must be far superior to her at this point.

But linking his feat to stop White's sword to his physical strength is wrong for me, because Baam is not the physical type, there's definitely his shinsoo reinforcement there.

Yeah, maybe I wasn't clear, but that is what the I see was for. I agree, rereading, White even mentioned that his improvement in physical strength is ridiculous, which must mean reinforcement. What I meant with my comment was that we will never know when Bam has surpassed Androssi in physical stats, because that will probably never be mentioned specifically.

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Yes, because reinforcement is the big thing here.

Baam is a WC by nature, he shouldn't develop so fast in full physical feats as it's not his forte, so the boost is there to compensate for that.

True, but I think him having a body of an irregular still should have an insane effect on his physical development. Even if it's not his strenght.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Bro if you read below i share that too not the link but the info.. 10 family kids can use shinsu before the second floor when the regular make their first contract
We can see that in laure who is capable pr shot beams oh shinsu in the second floor w/o practice

Yeah, I saw your comment after I posted the reply. But the point is that their ability to use shinsu from birth doesn't make them irregular in any way. They still need the consent if the admins while irregulars are said to be able to use shinsu freelywithout limits.