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I’m not sure you do, because you don’t structure your arguments like you understand these things. Laxus moved on instinct, and casually overpowered her hax command once the thinking was taken out of the equation. I’m didn’t really come across as a friendship power moment, but if your running with that, do you bro.
Laxus won out of strategy. An before that he almost won on pure power against someone who was literally strengthened by every attack Laxus threw at him. Wahl didn’t start really connecting until he had his Magic Deficiency attack, and Laxus tanked all of that. An as soon as he was cured he literally 1 shot that man. You keep trying to come up with a narrative that doesn’t make that victory impressive my guy.
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Dimaria above Laxus and Erza.
The same Dimaria that got destroyed by END so hard that she ended with a PTSD.
The same END that was matched by Gray.
The same Gray who's weaker than Laxus and Erza.
And Brandish & Jacob on the same level as these two.
Wonderful.
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You don’t seem to understand what instinct is, it is stated to be something that involves and entire species not just a few, and considering that Erza did nothing like that, it can’t be instinct. And you counter yourself, overpowering means he uses mental effort so that means he uses magic power. And pure luck as Laxus stated when he first acquired it, only his proxy was shown to be strengthened with vortex charge, Laxus’ attack were not hampered until the MBP started to affect him as Wall stated he still operated at top condition, he beat him at a strengthened red lightning by coincidence and by surprise, that is what happened, do you really think Wall would be taken surprise if Laxus used that on his proxy before their confrnotation? No he wouldn’t as he would come up with a counter for it like how his weakness magic works
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How are Laxus & Erza supposed to counter time stop ? It was stated that END had time resistance, which was the only reason on why he could beat Dimaria.
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I understand exactly what it means. The call to protect is an instinct. An his body instinctually moved to protect Lucy. Overpowering the fact he was literally just ordered to stand there and watch by the person whose spell he was under. You’re attempt at creating a correlation doesn’t alter that. Especially since none of her comerades were attacked that I recall.
Your response kinda jumps around here, so I’m put it back in order.
Wahl changed Lightning to power. If he did something different than what we already saw through his proxy Mashima would have explained the different between the two. If you find something to contradict his solution to that weakness. Which was expressly to turn the lightning into fuel, provide it and we can readdress it.
Yeah. An he was pummeling him before that. Until he juiced up on his magic, and even then Laxus was still hitting him with piledrivers. Laxus tanked all the attacks he used while he had his health issues. An like Batman I’m sure with prep time he may have found a solution. Yet the power differential was made abundantly clear. An the fact it was because he couldn’t hurt him with his element was reiterated for a reason.
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It is not an attempt, it is fact that something resides in all member of the species, if it’s instinct then why didn’t Erza do the same thing when her friends were in trouble? Again, overpowering means using mental effort to overcome hypnosis, Yes they were, when Kyria attacked Lucy and Wendy. Also Laxus said that he couldn’t stand by and let Kyria attack Lucy which is not something instinctive and based on mental effort and intent. That was really his Proxy that did that, he did as his proxy changed form when being hit by Lightning to convert it, while real Wall did not. https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628851/9 Wall and Laxus were fairly even before that as Wall has shown to be physically superior to Laxus Since none of his attacks left scratches on him, Laxus was clearly injured by Wall before being affected by the MBP. Power difference is only a factor if Laxus was injured to power up the red lightning, so Laxus would have to catch him by surprise and be near dead for him to have a chance.
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2 explanations. 1) Because they weren’t in actual trouble, just captured. 2) She’s not strong enough. Personally I’d go with 1, because they were literally just captured and held in the brig. Nobody was doing anything to them that she needed to break free for, but I don’t really care either way how people defend it
No, it doesnt. Your fixation on it meaning that doesn’t alter what it means. His instincts overpowered the spell. That doesn’t require mental effort because instincts are automatic. A parents instinct to protect their child made me jump down a flight of stairs over my sons head to stop him falling and crashing into a wall. There was no struggle, I jumped as soon as I realized he was falling because I needed to keep him from hitting that wall and my body realized that was the only solution. I consciously wouldn’t have thought I could make that leap safely for a number of reasons. Laxus instinctually moved to protect Lucy, he did not have to stop and mentally struggle lol.
You have yet to provide an alternate explanation for what Wahl was doin, and he himself referenced his solution to that weakness which was already explicitly explained to us in the scan you provide. Either provide the explanation of what he’s doing instead or don’t bother replying on that score again, because your assumption is head cannon and this panel backs up what I’m saying, not what your claiming in any way. An your argument directly contradicts what the author already explained. An you just saying it’s different isn’t good enough for me brodi. Proof or I’m ignoring this random claim going forward.
Wahl isn’t shown being equal. His attacks aren’t even shown being effective before he starts taking blows from Laxus. I mean he literally grabs his arm and absorbs his lightning in the opening salvo of their battle. You literally see him absorbing it.
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An Laxus is fine. He comes back from each attack and hits him harder. Hence Wahl’s computer brain deciding he would lose the fight unless he changed his tactics. Like, he himself says he will lose to Laxus overwhelming power if he doesn’t change how he’s fighting him. Dunno what there is to debate about…
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being kidnapped and attacked is not being in trouble? If she is not strong enough means nothing to instinct, just like Laxus being strong enough to overcome the hypnosis has nothing to do with instinct, since instinct is something found in all species. It does as since Erza did not overcome it on her own means that what Laxus did is not instinct as it was his own strength. just like how Erza would have reacted automatically since she was in the same position. Laxus even stated that he could not sit by and let this happen as that is not something instinctual to do. but you were not being brainwashed by someone, come back and explain the situation then when you have gone through the exact same situation. and that was only referencing to his Proxy, not his real body, that is what is proof enough, and that only happened when he was using Vortex Charge, what you are saying is head cannon since we do not see real Wall doing the same thing, unless you can prove that Real Wall did the same thing as Proxy wall, then you have a point, no it does not, as real Wall was saying Lightning does not affect him, if it did not affect him then he was not utilizing it, Proxy's body was brimming with Lighting and utilizing it, while Wall's body was transformed naturally in his Assault mode with other abilities, if he was using Laxus' lightning, then it wouldn't have charged up Laxus since he can't eat his own lightning. Wat? There was nothing showing that Wall was absorbing Lighting from Laxus arm, he was just grabbing it, you are making that up. Yeah no, he was clearly injured from Wall's attacks https://v2.mangapark.net/manga/fairy-tail/i1628863/14 he did not overwrite his personality because he would lose, but because it was impulsive and could be exploited.2 explanations. 1) Because they weren’t in actual trouble, just captured. 2) She’s not strong enough. Personally I’d go with 1, because they were literally just captured and held in the brig. Nobody was doing anything to them that she needed to break free for, but I don’t really care either way how people defend it
No, it doesnt. Your fixation on it meaning that doesn’t alter what it means. His instincts overpowered the spell. That doesn’t require mental effort because instincts are automatic. A parents instinct to protect their child made me jump down a flight of stairs over my sons head to stop him falling and crashing into a wall. There was no struggle, I jumped as soon as I realized he was falling because I needed to keep him from hitting that wall and my body realized that was the only solution. I consciously wouldn’t have thought I could make that leap safely for a number of reasons. Laxus instinctually moved to protect Lucy, he did not have to stop and mentally struggle lol.
You have yet to provide an alternate explanation for what Wahl was doin, and he himself referenced his solution to that weakness which was already explicitly explained to us in the scan you provide. Either provide the explanation of what he’s doing instead or don’t bother replying on that score again, because your assumption is head cannon and this panel backs up what I’m saying, not what your claiming in any way. An your argument directly contradicts what the author already explained. An you just saying it’s different isn’t good enough for me brodi. Proof or I’m ignoring this random claim going forward.
Wahl isn’t shown being equal. His attacks aren’t even shown being effective before he starts taking blows from Laxus. I mean he literally grabs his arm and absorbs his lightning in the opening salvo of their battle. You literally see him absorbing it.
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An Laxus is fine. He comes back from each attack and hits him harder. Hence Wahl’s computer brain deciding he would lose the fight unless he changed his tactics. Like, he himself says he will lose to Laxus overwhelming power if he doesn’t change how he’s fighting him. Dunno what there is to debate about…
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Why would he even have time resistance in the first place?
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Because it was stated?
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I don’t care if it was stated. Why does he have it?
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Why can’t you? Not once did it come up in the manga that END had time resistance. The few times magic didn’t work on him his power/strength was the explanation they’d give. Knowing that in my opinion Mirajane’s silly END power explanation from the QnA alludes to it being more about his overall power/strength being the reason he could move in time stop rather than him randomly having time stop resistance.
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He does because it is END’s power that over comes that of a god, and that is the keep difference, because of that of a god, hence why it is created, to combat the power of that of Zeref’s immortality which is a god power. Think about it, if it was a matter of strength and not specific nature of power, then why didn’t we see battles waging around when Dimaria fought against Wendy and Chelia?
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And in the Q&A Mirajane said he got “a” power that allowed him to movie in stopped time, so he would have time stop resistance.
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@Sevently Based on your logic on Fairy Tail Power Levels, Kyria > Laxus, right?
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He's stronger than her in MP & strenght, but he can't beat her because of hax.
Same as Natsu can't beat Haku but he can beat Wendy. Everything in a fight is not about strenght.
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You keep repeating found in all species as though that contradicts my point or argument. It doesn’t. Erza not being able to overcome it has nothing to do with either since it was based on the fact she didn’t see any of that happen. They weren’t in danger they were restrained. I don’t get what you don’t understand on that score. It’s confounding. Laxus said he couldn’t watch and moved on his own.
Your continued refusal to admit this is interesting. The fact he himself stated he isn’t affected by lightning when it’s reiterated that he’s not affected by lightning. Provide an actual alternate explanation. I’ll wait. Counter the explanation Wahl himself gave as to why lightning doesn’t work. Same way he mentioned that Laxus power was an issue.