Chapter Tower of God Chapter 537 Spoilers & Discussion

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The translated chapter is out!


From Shiin ^_^
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Im waiting for it too cause I did a quick skim with the last pages and can't find any except snippets from here and someone's mobile translation in Twitter. Though it should be sometime soon within the week (I don't know much what happened to the usual translator but I hope they're doing fine)
@axolotl sorry for the delay
 

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Translated chapter[by alpha scans]----
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You think Kaiser compare to him in term of talent ?
Why not? The only reason she hasn't long since completed her climb is because of being stuck at Name Hunt Station for a thousand years.
 

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While the animas are a disappointment, the shinheuh are not.

I really liked the fact that SIU escapes the conventional concept of summons and stays on the theme (if you look at it, the most powerful shinheuh have to do with water, that is, shinsoo).

This summon (or summons, I don't know if the creature is changing its shape or if there are several) of Hollam is incredibly powerful, just the fact that she can move HJ is already a feat and him being able to control her is a great feat too.

But that's about it, it's hilarious and that to me just proves how isolated the regulars are in the climb and how gigantic the tower is.

He climbed the tower without any problems, but he probably never encountered princesses, Aries or DDs from other families. This corroborates why he's just satisfied with the monsters he knows because they've been there for a long time and can't grow any further.

I believe this will be a factor in the future of regulars when they become rankers.
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No one can claim that Rei has fallen in the ranks due to inactivity as you point out. He just simply is the weakest of the FHs, or one of. Which would make sense that SIU would start the tower-wide war with one of the weaker FHs instead of going straight to Arie or something.
 

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Dobo getting one-shotted… SIU I can’t LOL, think about poor TeamPurdi???
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The fact that some read this chapter and tricked themselves into believing that JH is losing is absolutely hilarious! I misjudged for blaming the mis t/ls for leading people astray!
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Dobo, say hi to Windbird for me!
Boy did this age like fresh milk :teehee
 

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You think Kaiser compare to him in term of talent ?
If I said yes, I would be acting like Cinera, so it depends.

Holam is like a frog in a well and I really think it's hard for him to have a greater talent than Kaiser, Shilial and Lilial, but I can't prove it and I don't even have a concrete point for it.
 

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I brought last chapter how the beast is not strong enough to pulverize a CC tier, my issue with this is Rei accepted becoming anima during his climb and got better at it as he and his companions challenged the floor's administrator's tests. Rei's beasts need at least to be strong that Rei can contend against another Great Warrior, they can't be fodder that is easily before they can even do anything. So I'm expecting the beasts at their base, just a lower tier than the Great Warriors themselves. There are still tiers above CC I believe, like matured Zahard princess, floor's ruler, Adori tier, people like Luslec tier (if Adori is well above him), so the 2 summons Harpe and the frog should be able to easily kill Yas, in fact one of them should be enough, having 2 and failed to do so is egregious.

Even if Harpe and the frog are the weakest of Rei's beasts, they should be still 1 or more tier above than Yas. These summons are not like goblins/skeleton tier, just some fodder type summons, but named and from a strong sounding specie. Bad yet, 2 more beasts joined in. This doesn't look good on Rei's part, even if he is overwhelmingly strong still compared to Yas.
I just wouldn't put ground rulers as a class, because in addition to being extremely varied (Hon is one even though he's an FH) it's impossible for them all to be strong enough to be above EVK, Elliot and WgW.
 

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While the animas are a disappointment, the shinheuh are not.

I really liked the fact that SIU escapes the conventional concept of summons and stays on the theme (if you look at it, the most powerful shinheuh have to do with water, that is, shinsoo).

This summon (or summons, I don't know if the creature is changing its shape or if there are several) of Hollam is incredibly powerful, just the fact that she can move HJ is already a feat and him being able to control her is a great feat too.

But that's about it, it's hilarious and that to me just proves how isolated the regulars are in the climb and how gigantic the tower is.

He climbed the tower without any problems, but he probably never encountered princesses, Aries or DDs from other families. This corroborates why he's just satisfied with the monsters he knows because they've been there for a long time and can't grow any further.

I believe this will be a factor in the future of regulars when they become rankers.
I mean even if he climbed with princess or other DD , his talent should better .

There is a reason why most top 100 are arrogant because they are so talented that there is few chance off meeting people as talented as them in the same generation and they have to compare to previous generation .

For example Yuri is probably the most talented off her generation and she would have to compare herself to previous generation who reached they peak or look at record of previous generationnal monster .

If Holan can really reach top 100 , he likely destroyed or was far better than most ennmie he faced or most off the guy off his generation .
That fighting power far and away is the most important, and other factors that you mention are largely influenced by... fighting power.
I mean i won't such claim , do you think that if Yurin were to lose her family , she would still have her position or you think she could end up at the lowest position among irregular .

Well my opinion is that using the ranking is honestly good just to get a general idea off where someone stand in term of strength , but using it to say exactly how strong someone is silly for me .
 

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No one can claim that Rei has fallen in the ranks due to inactivity as you point out. He just simply is the weakest of the FHs, or one of. Which would make sense that SIU would start the tower-wide war with one of the weaker FHs instead of going straight to Arie or something.
Imagine if Blossom were an enemy like Rei is, Baam wouldn't even make it to the nest.
 

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Everyone knows an irregular is a class above 99.9999999% of the tower.

But I wonder how much variation they have between them (the OG13 I mean).

Was Hon just barely less powerful than Zahard? Was Zahard multiples stronger than Hon?

Is Hon multiples above little bro Han?

Is TPP the runt but just the best at intel?

Does Rei suck in comparison so instead he spent his time with animals that he could manipulate to make up for his inferiority to his kin?
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I mean i won't such claim , do you think that if Yurin were to lose her family , she would still have her position or you think she could end up at the lowest position among irregular .

Well my opinion is that using the ranking is honestly good just to get a general idea off where someone stand in term of strength , but using it to say exactly how strong someone is silly for me .
Yes, I think she'd keep her ranking.

It has been pointedly stated that the three strongest FH's after Zahard are Hon, Eduan, and Yurin.

And we know that the second strongest is Arie after Zahard.

I don't think it's a coincidence then that their rankings reflect that order exactly.

And then there's fun facts like Eduan wants to regain his previous rank. How, by besting Urek IN COMBAT of course.

Imagine if Blossom were an enemy like Rei is, Baam wouldn't even make it to the nest.
Exactly. It's the difference between a pro and a literal shit-show.
 

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I mean even if he climbed with princess or other DD , his talent should better .

There is a reason why most top 100 are arrogant because they are so talented that there is few chance off meeting people as talented as them in the same generation and they have to compare to previous generation .

For example Yuri is probably the most talented off her generation and she would have to compare herself to previous generation who reached they peak or look at record of previous generationnal monster .

If Holan can really reach top 100 , he likely destroyed or was far better than most ennmie he faced or most off the guy off his generation .
the HR are arrogant because they've been there for a long time, the tower rarely changes, ascensions like Yuri's or YHS's are capable of causing commotion in the tower.

I'm not denying Hollam's abilities, but the fact that he climbed the tower comfortably makes him hilarious.
 

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Regarding Holan, i think the claim of him being the most talented/with the most potential in the family is legit. So far he's used 4-5 different shinhueh, some of them appear to be translucent (spirits maybe, like Elaine's Fenryl?), not to mention that all of them were fossils which is rather interesting. Candidy (sea urchins, or maybe wider sea life) and Holan (sea fossil creatures) are both BH candidates so it's obvious they can't be from the same Branch. I wonder if there is a "fossil" Branch or is Holan just so special that he is the only one who can use such shinhueh and maybe he's outside of the standard Branches.

Every one of his shinhueh was used in a different way, not only utilising their raw power, which makes Holan look like he has a deep bag of tricks at his disposal. There was one that pushed Jinsung back, one that acted like a spear, one that transported Baam near Holan, one that attacked Baam at close range and probably one more that blocked Baam's attack on Holan's arms. All of that makes me think Holan is a scout because of how versatile him and his shinhueh are.
 

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One point is traum confident with himself and with his family to wage a war with poe bidu family with gustang as family head who got ranking in 14.
And he's about to have about half his war power left before he can even face the Po Bidau forces at this rate.

It could simply be Zahard threw his most-loyal, easiest to manipulate, or weakest ally against Gustang to test the later's war power.



I have no doubt Gustang wouldn't win 10 out of 10 times going by intellect alone.
 

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I just wouldn't put ground rulers as a class, because in addition to being extremely varied (Hon is one even though he's an FH) it's impossible for them all to be strong enough to be above EVK, Elliot and WgW.
I expected them to be because I thought that he would use his anima abilities if he was ever in a fight against another FH.
Now I'm doubtful any of his beasts can pose a threat to any of them.
 

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Regarding Holan, i think the claim of him being the most talented/with the most potential in the family is legit. So far he's used 4-5 different shinhueh, some of them appear to be translucent (spirits maybe, like Elaine's Fenryl?), not to mention that all of them were fossils which is rather interesting. Candidy (sea urchins, or maybe wider sea life) and Holan (sea fossil creatures) are both BH candidates so it's obvious they can't be from the same Branch. I wonder if there is a "fossil" Branch or is Holan just so special that he is the only one who can use such shinhueh and maybe he's outside of the standard Branches.

Every one of his shinhueh was used in a different way, not only utilising their raw power, which makes Holan look like he has a deep bag of tricks at his disposal. There was one that pushed Jinsung back, one that acted like a spear, one that transported Baam near Holan, one that attacked Baam at close range and probably one more that blocked Baam's attack on Holan's arms. All of that makes me think Holan is a scout because of how versatile him and his shinhueh are.
The point is, in a land where we have Kaiser, Shilial and Lilial, it's hard to believe his words.

Mainly because he "has never seen a bigger talent" before Baam.
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I expected them to be because I thought that he would use his anima abilities if he was ever in a fight against another FH.
Now I'm doubtful any of his beasts can pose a threat to any of them.
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But the war will still go on even after this fight and he comes to war that he think he doesn't come to win and accept that yeah maybe he is stupid
To be fair, maybe Rei isn't that dumb, he just hasn't shown much intellect because he's too preoccupied being lazy and/or emo.
 

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I don't think the argument of Traumerai not being in the top ranking we know of is valid to debate about his power. Here is why I think so:

For a long time SIU kept the 10th family a secret. He made blog posts about 9 families, 9 heads, Jahad, the Lords, Urek and so on but never anything about the 10th.
I believe SIU had something special planed for the 10th at first, maybe something like a family destroyed during a rebelion or something like that ?

But whatever SIU had in mind, he gave up on that and just made the mysterious 10 family a "normal" one. The revelation back then was weird, like it wasn't a revelation but was treated as something known.

So Traumerai is not in the top ranking because he didn't exist when SIU wrote his blog post.
Don't forget the posts are no longer canon.
 

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I don't think the argument of Traumerai not being in the top ranking we know of is valid to debate about his power. Here is why I think so:

For a long time SIU kept the 10th family a secret. He made blog posts about 9 families, 9 heads, Jahad, the Lords, Urek and so on but never anything about the 10th.
I believe SIU had something special planed for the 10th at first, maybe something like a family destroyed during a rebelion or something like that ?

But whatever SIU had in mind, he gave up on that and just made the mysterious 10 family a "normal" one. The revelation back then was weird, like it wasn't a revelation but was treated as something known.

So Traumerai is not in the top ranking because he didn't exist when SIU wrote his blog post.
Don't forget the posts are no longer canon.
Is this accurate?
 

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Why not? The only reason she hasn't long since completed her climb is because of being stuck at Name Hunt Station for a thousand years.
Because we saw that the definition of talent varies from where you stand .

Kaiser was said to be a talent among the current generation off that family .

The more you level up , the more you face previous generation .

For example Yuri was a talent when seh was a regular , among the young guy in her family , they were probably less than 50 years old , after that when she climbed she had to face previous generation talent who had 200 years and was still called a talent . Until she was HR and was still called a talent among jahad princess who became ranker and HR .

Simply put , someone who is considered talented at a certain level won't be considered one at another level .

Why because there are different talent in TOG , there are guy who are considered unique talent in 100 years , other unique talent in 500 years , other unqiue talent in 1000 years and other more .

The thing is tha while in real life you will never meet a talented people from 500 years . But in TOG if you climb you will meet them .

For example all HR are genius and at regular they would have be considered beast or real genius but when they become HR , they are confronted with other genius off other generation .

That is why even if Kaiser was considered a genius as a regular , it only means she could have a HR , but closing to top 100 .

For example Hoaquin was considered a genius in his family but he still needed soul power to get to 100 level , evankhell needed her ancient , Kallavan is EoB .

We now see top 100 as trash , but top 100 is something that even HR can only dream about . It is a monstruous realm .

I think it is the reason consider Baam friend like Androssi can reach realm but i have no belief that any off Baam friend can reach that realm .


For example Holan likely never faced any real rival in his climbing , he is likely a little like a Yuri in his family .
 

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Seeing Traumerei do stuff is cool and all, but the fact that it's taking him this much time and resources to dispose of what should be an absolute relative scrub is not doing his Irregular mystique any favors. The argument for him being the weakest of the Great Warriors continues to become more credible.
Maybe gustang was lying?
 
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