Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

[shaheer]

Alpha scans released the latest.. perhaps pin it if it's not already posted
https://alpha-scans.org/tower-of-god-chapter-539/

 

[O_n_Sly]

I like to think Eduan is also in the leave him be camp, Protect Baam must have Gustang in it , no? As he used Baam at least on 1 occasion.

Also wasn't it said Zahard didn't want to pick a side? So it's probably like a 3-3-3 split. I guess Traumei sees himself as a "protector" as well.

Eduan is in the protect Baam camp and Gustang is in the leave him be camp! Traum was originally in the leave him be camp but it seems his greed for power has gotten to him!

 

[Jacinto Pinto]

Wait a minute, wouldn't it be like a three-some

I like how Rei thinks.

His offers sure are compelling

 

[O_n_Sly]

It doesn't make any sense to me. He can't even control levi much less children of Baam. Baam is literally consists of 3 irregular power,one god power,one monster power. Him making a child capable of surpassing enne wouldn't be a suprise. much less letting him do with twins who has genes of traum and Z. Though he doesn't know about him at all. So you might be correct.

Kind of like the furries, Traum only needs half of Baams child to be vulnerable to his control and that would be the mothers half!

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Zahard is the king of the tower, not Eduan, not V, not Hon, Zahard.

It is clear that Zahard considers the 10 leaders as his equals, but that does not mean that in the empire there is no hierarchy.

Blossom being unable to stop Enne from becoming a princess is a good example of this.

Gustang has had hundreds of thousands of years to turn against Zahard and has only chosen now, when Baam appeared in the tower.

Although not very healthy, you can be friends with your boss, but at the end of the day, that doesn't change the fact that he is above you.

I mean, this.

It's kind of the focal point of the entire story that Zahard is king while no one else is, not even another FH.

 

[sazon]

What I think will happen:

- Baam will not agree with the proposal and will release leviathan, due to his anger against Rei, levi will fully cooperate with Baam.

At this moment the Hybrid appears, we have a small FB of him running away from cat tower after feeling Rei's shinwonryuu.

In the meantime, Hockney and Kaiser find Hatsu, Cha takes Karaka to them and they all enter the place of the heart, and Karaka uses the mouse to get to Sophia and in the meantime, she uses some lighthouse technique to teleport EVK and the others.

After that, Hybrid starts making a mess, although Rei doesn't mind him, "someone" drops the bomb on Lyb's ship, this isn't enough to alarm Troymerei, but it gives Yama and the others space to grab Baam and flee. , of course, in this time interval Hwa Ryun sends a message saying that everyone has escaped.

Without the interference of Luslec or Gustang, this is the only scenario I see.

 

[Aetherventus258]

Okay, the chapter was great, honestly it was to be expected that there would be divided opinions about the irregular, I consider that those who are in favor of killing him know about the prophecy, and those who are not in favor of it and want to protect him just do it in case it turns out to be true and be in "good terms" with baam, and then there are those who don't care about everything related to it.

But something that bothered me was baam not feeling fear against Rei's shinwonryu, the guy was shitting himself on the hidden floor when Zahard showed him the "monster" inside him, and now that he sees something infinitely superior to whatever Zahard had at the time, he doesn't even react? Even when he said that any sign of hostility meant death for him...? Yes, of course.

 

[Turtle hunter]

I think there's a very clear reason why none of the FH's acted up for tens of thousands of years, before Baam came along.

They might not LIKE that he's the king, but they aren't acting against it.

And I'm not sure you have any basis they could have ever done anything about it.

Hence, they are subordinates. Of sorts.

If only in title, they aren't the king while Zahard is. That fact alone imparts a subordination to everyone not the king, which includes the FHs.

Rei could be his friend, but, again he also refers to his friend as the king.

Maybe because the title off king off the tower is a futile title for a irregular ?

Sure they are not against it , but maybe they just don't care ? You know not all off those irregular have ambition , zahard seemed to want to be the king , but let us be honest , the king title for now only bring prestige and a FH can have most off what zahard can have .

It could just be , that they don't care because the title don't matter in the first but zahard is the strongest and want that title so why not let him be ? For example Rak is the " leader " or was accepted as that mainly because he wanted it .

Or maybe they made a bet to figth and the last one standing is the king .

Honestly for me the king is a rubish position for a FH , so even if they let him be the king it doesn't really matter .

I mean it isn't me who have to prove that FH can't do anything against him , but you .

This chapter show that Zahard consider them seriously and as serious problem that he has to be careful with .

That is good to you , but my point was that zahard and FH relationship wasn't that off a mere king and his subordinate .

If you point is that the tower gave him the king title i agree .

But that isn't my point , my point is that the dynamic between the FH and zahard isn't that off a king and his subordinate and that it is much more complicated than that , with gustang considering zahard and other FH as friend for example .

 

[sazon]

But something that bothered me was baam not feeling fear against Rei's shinwonryu, the guy was shitting himself on the hidden floor when Zahard showed him the "monster" inside him, and now that he sees something infinitely superior to whatever Zahard had at the time, he doesn't even react? Even when he said that any sign of hostility meant death for him...? Yes, of course.

The frightened Baam hadn't gone through the entire rice cooker ceremony and woken up as a true irregular.

Enough of him acting like an idiot, being scared would be deplorable.

 

[SuperTurtle]

I see three options for what comes next:

- Bam makes a counter offer like a alliance with Traumerai. This results in a test in the form a a spar between Traumerai and Bam. Bam gains his respect and they become "friends". It is very fan service and unlikely in my opinion but who knows.

- Luslec comes from Sofia's warp gate and snatches Bam from Traumerai. They run away with Traumerai on their tail. When they are far away from the nest, Gustang intercepts Traumerai and Bam escapes with Luslec.
In the meantime, Hansung and co escapes the nest through the portal to some random place in the middle area.

- Luslec comes and grabs everyone before escaping through the portal to some random place in the middle area.

We already know that Luslec has an eye on the situation and won't come unless a family head is involved. We know there is a route between Sofia and some FUG safe place. We know the consequences of using the portal and destroying it.
I think SIU introduced these elements for a reason and intends to use them.

Unresolved plot points: Yama and Akrinak, possibly Elaine and Hollan.

 

[lazybum]

If Maschenny wants Baam to be compliant to her, she should be organizing the escape of everyone not with Traumerei location, somehow send message Baam to force him a miracle escape by teleporting everyone around him, using Doom's warp plan thingy

 

[sazon]

About raw, I found out that on the site where I know they release ToG, but so far there is only chapter 538. They release every Sunday (for them Monday), I'm waiting.

 

[Sky is blue]

I can already see it ,

Jinsung comes running towards bam screaming viole! Traumerei kills him for talking between thier conversation
few hours later traumerei in bam tummy meets levithan : hhahahhaa now you know how it likes to be sealed?
Traumerei : shut up i will control him from inside!
sun: ....
Traumerei: .....

On a more serious note , jinsung shouldn't die untill he teach baam dragon tiger gate and say sorry to him( as he revealed in last station arc he wanted to say sorry to bam but he just couldn't bring himself to say it)
It should more like when traumerei attacks jinsung for barging between thier conversation baam somehow deflects it/ or just move jinsung aside from range of attack

Traumerei take this as offence and says if baam doesn't agree to it willingly then he don't have any other choice but to use force
And then he decides to show baam the overwhelming diffrence between them and then baam, jinsung , yama , yastracha and kallavan ? ( Maybe he will decide to join baam after seeing that literally a c rank regular is going against a fh and he isn't keeping his promise .....either way i fully expect kallavan to help team baam for atleast now otherwise there was no meaning for siu to suddenly give such power up) , maschenny , yastracha , fug elder? To go against traumeri

 

[Glowstuff]

I'm thinking,

Kill - Zahard, Ari , Yeon, Hendo

Protect - Ha, Eurasia, Gustang,

Leave him be - Khun, Arie, Tu Perie, Traumerie


I put Ari in kill because as a pacifist, he might see it as the best way to maintain peace,

Yeon? No reason, she just doesn't seem very nice based on her family, lol.

Hendo - I think he is a Zahard suck up.

 

[Aetherventus258]

And seriously Rei isn't going to say that baam looks like her mother or something? All the Irregulars we've met so far have noticed that baam looks like his parents, Rei seriously isn't going to say something? I don't think he doesn't know that the person in front of him is the son of Arlene and V, I would believe it from Zahard who killed him with his own hands, but Rei doesn't say anything....

I hope that in the next chapter they say something about them or they reveal a little bit about why according to gustang, V is the worst person he has ever met.

 

[Turtle hunter]

Zahard is the king of the tower, not Eduan, not V, not Hon, Zahard.

It is clear that Zahard considers the 10 leaders as his equals, but that does not mean that in the empire there is no hierarchy.

Blossom being unable to stop Enne from becoming a princess is a good example of this.

Gustang has had hundreds of thousands of years to turn against Zahard and has only chosen now, when Baam appeared in the tower.

Although not very healthy, you can be friends with your boss, but at the end of the day, that doesn't change the fact that he is above you.

Off course zahard is king , but my point was about the dynamic between them .

Off course there is a hierarchy , but that hierarchy is also relative .

It was PBD gustang who wanted her to be a princess if i remember well .

 

[Zmsp]

This seems like a great chapter.

The world building and overall mystery had always been compelling, but since most characters feel like unimportant, considering the powerlevel of the Family Heads, most side-plots or agendas just feel boring and a waste of time. Finally we're seeing some interaction between irregulars and what Traumerei wants from Baam. It also adressed some of the loose ends about the lack of action from Zahard/FHs towards Baam, up until recently. The lack of explaining had always bothered me.

What's even more interesting is thinking about the way Baam's about to hit Traumerei with his bland virgin-like shonen main character answer: "That would be wrong". Even the classic "there's someone else I like" would fit way better than whatever Baam's going to use right here, but I honestly can't see him agreeing to this, or having any love interest.

Cool chapter.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Maybe because the title off king off the tower is a futile title for a irregular ?

Sure they are not against it , but maybe they just don't care ? You know not all off those irregular have ambition , zahard seemed to want to be the king , but let us be honest , the king title for now only bring prestige and a FH can have most off what zahard can have .

It could just be , that they don't care because the title don't matter in the first but zahard is the strongest and want that title so why not let him be ? For example Rak is the " leader " or was accepted as that mainly because he wanted it .

Or maybe they made a bet to figth and the last one standing is the king .

Honestly for me the king is a rubish position for a FH , so even if they let him be the king it doesn't really matter .

I mean it isn't me who have to prove that FH can't do anything against him , but you .

This chapter show that Zahard consider them seriously and as serious problem that he has to be careful with .

That is good to you , but my point was that zahard and FH relationship wasn't that off a mere king and his subordinate .

If you point is that the tower gave him the king title i agree .

But that isn't my point , my point is that the dynamic between the FH and zahard isn't that off a king and his subordinate and that it is much more complicated than that , with gustang considering zahard and other FH as friend for example .

What makes you think they "let" him become the king?

So your thought is they have ALL kept their heads down and mouths shut for thousands of years just bc they don't care?

As opposed to what we're seeing now, now that Baam has entered the chat?

You know you might not like, or agree, that your boss should be the boss, but if he/she ACTS like your boss and has the title, and you don't do anything about it, changing or preventing your behavior, then they are your boss in practicality AND in title. And you're the subordinate whether you tell yourself otherwise or not.

 

[Aetherventus258]

The frightened Baam hadn't gone through the entire rice cooker ceremony and woken up as a true irregular.

Enough of him acting like an idiot, being scared would be deplorable.

Baam had already gone through his first revolution with the guardian god, and he was already very strong back then, you are simply telling me that baam is not going to feel fear for something that is infinitely superior to what he saw there, the normal reaction for this baam would be to simply tremble a little or show his terror, this is not a game, this is a family leader with all his power who we are talking about.

 

[Arjuna]

Thinking about it this is the best chance for Rei to have Baam in the family.He is in a level where he is showing immense potential,and he recently officially defeated a Ranker.And yet he isn't that strong that Traumerei can't control him.


If he becomes a Ranker then there is no chance for Traumerei to control him.


But if he manages to marry Baam to shilial or Lillial then he will be a part of his family.

Any children he will have and his wife will be a hostage to Traumerei so even if Baam becomes a Ranker he will never be able to go against Traumerei.Also there is heavy chance his children may become next Adori or Anne/Enne.And in future Rei can boast that he has two family heads,as Ranker Baam will definitely be a Family Head tier atleast.


No one can replicate this as every family has only 1 Family Head,Urek's organization only him, Workshop unknown,FUG no one, even Zahard is only one.So Traumerei is thinking like this.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Off course zahard is king , but my point was about the dynamic between them .

Off course there is a hierarchy , but that hierarchy is also relative .

It was PBD gustang who wanted her to be a princess if i remember well .

If you admit to a hierarchy, then you are admitting to subordination by default.

Zahard doesn't have to rule the FHs with an iron fist for them to consider him their king, irrespective of what they think about it.