Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

  • Total voters
    112
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I don't think the family heads know the way out of the tower. The family heads are not exactly fans of urek... If they could get rid of him by having him simply walk the heck out of the tower I would guess they would already have done that.
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There's a pretty good chance that hana's relative illarde is an irregular though.
I don't think even if the Family Heads are not fan of Urek they aren't going to inform him the path to leave the tower even if they knew.It is like opening a can of worms.Soon more people will start following Urek's path in leaving the tower.There maybe instability in the tower if too many people leaves it.The empire might itself collapse if it happens that whenever people have problems they leave the tower.


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We don't know whether Yeon Ilarde is an Irregular or a clone of Hana.I am basing it on available information.
 

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didn't she describe 'outside' though?
Could be her ability to predict the future.

Her prophesy also predicted that Enryu will come into the tower and leave a weapon for her child (who was dead at that time) to strike back at her enemies.
 
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I think Traum is using shinworyu with his shinsoo shape and quality which took form of divine beast.
I am not sure this works like this. Shinsoo attributes can as far as we know be anything but so far they haven't produced living beings. And it sounds pretty unlikely they can be living things. I doubt elaine's wolf for instance in her shinsoo attribute. I am all for traumerei having spirit animals similar to elaine though
 

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His goal is marriage
If you are refereing to this:
As such, why does he not offer one of his male children up for Baam as well? How does he not know that's Baam's jam? Just how progressive is he anyways...
I don't think Korean is progressive enough to accept that on main character.

Still, having marriage that produce kids is better for Traum, having descendants who have bloodline of 2 irregulars is an advantage for any great families as they are usually stonger. Of course they are still trifles, but it still increase the standings of the family.
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haven't produced living beings.
I am not saying living beings, just took the form/shape of living beings.
 

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In general this chapter is really cool. Got more FH lore, saw Rei's strenght.

I especially like that there is more of a description of the relationship between Jahad and the family heads. Baam staying silent is sadly the low point for me. I wanted a tiny bit more of a reaction from him. Not much more, just a tiny bit. Still love that we got the meeting this week instead of the cat tower.
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I don't think Korean is progressive enough to accept that on main character.
From what I know they really aren't.
 

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I don't think even if the Family Heads are not fan of Urek they aren't going to inform him the path to leave the tower even if they knew.It is like opening a can of worms.Soon more people will start following Urek's path in leaving the tower.There maybe instability in the tower if too many people leaves it.The empire might itself collapse if it happens that whenever people have problems they leave the tower.


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We don't know whether Yeon Ilarde is an Irregular or a clone of Hana.I am basing it on available information.
A bigger can of worms than urek's presence in the tower? That sounds a bit like a reach IMO. Even if urek were to leak the secret odds are that over time the great families would be able to burry it. Just as they have been able to burry or erase pretty much whatever they wanted. There's also the question of whether tower residents can leave or whether there would be that much interest in it.

Sure, but we don't know that no family has two irregulars. The yeon bit is at least evidence that this isn't necessarily the case. We also don't know how many irregulars there are in the tower.
 

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Pretty sure this is not how he expected the rest of his day to go. I don't think he even knows what to say.
Ofcourse, but he said like 4 words. Underatandable from him, just wanted more.
 

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If Baam negotiates it and Traumerei wants him badly enough to allow it. They're just trifles to Traumerei after all.
Troymerei won't negotiate, he doesn't care about Baam's will. He's just, "Look how superior I am to you, I'm trying hard to treat you like a person."

And anyway, only if he's too dumb to set people free in any instance, Baam is stupid but it's not WW, he can rebel at any time and Rei hates betrayal to the point of being paranoid at the slightest hint of it.

Yasratcha and WangWang's past is exactly what will happen to Baam if he accepts this.
 

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That or Gustang shows up and blows the whole situation up.

Though I sort of hope not because I just love the idea of Baam being in a situation he can't punch his way out of. Characters talking is so much more exciting to me than characters fighting right now.

Speaking of exciting the way Traumerei's dialogue suggested a future where the 10 families all have a different stances on Baam and where that whole side of things is expanded is so exciting to me. That is a future I'm into in a way I never was for FUG vs the 10 Familes because there is so much more room to do interesting things there, IMO.
Yes I do like that. Because Traumerei is an Irregular as well it's at least certain that we won't have Baam having a sudden power up allowing him to reach his level or something.
 

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To me I think it's the exact opposite - leaving the tower sounds like a near-impossibility, while contracts already have holes in them (see what's going on with YHS and Bloodmadder).

I realize I'm in the minority in thinking she killed herself though, and the technical canon is simply she got out, literally not figuratively.
What you're saying may be true. Judging by how Baam was left abandoned in the cave, it is clear that she was unable to take care of him at that time. I think she was is either dead or insane.

But even if getting out of the tower is harder than voiding an admin contract, we do know that Baam was taken outside the tower at one point or else he wouldn't be irregular.
 

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Baam getting into the Lo Po Bia family and being 'protected by Rei is way better than whatever the fuck FUG can offer. If there was nothing about blackmail before this chapter, it would honestly be better for Baam to take this, build connections in the family/get another perspective and get stronger. FUG needs to take him back anyway. They can't really say no to the guy with 2 thorns.
What? Baam is going to become Troymerei's slave, seriously, do you understand his speech here?

Troymerei is basically saying that he's too merciful and kind for some trash like Baam and that he only treats him like a person because he comes from outside.

All this is pure arrogance.

Baam doesn't need to be protected, Baam needs to stop being a fucking pawn on this board and act like a real fucking irregular.
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What I take is for the tower of god universe that baam is not merely some people for traum like wang wang or his children or anyone else who born inside tower, even traum knows that in this chapter.

For different perspective it's like traum wants something more than just son from baam, maybe it's just like traum wants baam as his arsenal to put his family better position in the war that can be occurs in possible war that will happen if the balance of the tower throw off further advance to go down.
Children or friends, does that change my point?

Troymerei doesn't want an alliance, he wants to control Baam, as he can't tame him by force because he's irregular, he wants to tame him psychologically.

Seriously, I don't know how you guys are seeing any good in this. It's not enough all the FUG shit in the past and the Stockholm syndrome that led to this whole situation with Ha Jinsung and you're still trying to justify Troymerei's proposal.
 

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Yeah, as bad as FUG is it's better for Baam to stay with them than with Traumerei. Despite what he said I can't imagine Baam not being experimented on. Especially when we know he has Leviathan inside him, a Shinheuh that Traumerei was unable to control.
 

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What you're saying may be true. Judging by how Baam was left abandoned in the cave, it is clear that she was unable to take care of him at that time. I think she was is either dead or insane.

But even if getting out of the tower is harder than voiding an admin contract, we do know that Baam was taken outside the tower at one point or else he wouldn't be irregular.
I think Arlene was scared of Baam, Rachel's comments seem to indicate that.
 

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Troymerei just knows that Baam has enough potential to get to him alive in the midst of so many battles.

He doesn't know about the thorn

He doesn't know about RT and BT

He doesn't know about Levi

He doesn't know about the Sun.

Imagine when he finds out that Baam is a monster far beyond what he can handle?

Wang Wang had an instinctive and unhealthy loyalty to Rei, but just because he couldn't be controlled, he lived on a leash.

To think that this will be good for Baam in any instance is insane.

And for real, most of you are just agreeing to this because you want a Baam fuck boy fucking all the zahard princesses. What anyone knows this will NEVER happen because SIU is frustrated with relationships and won't let his protagonist get along in any aspect of it.
 

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What? Baam is going to become Troymerei's slave, seriously, do you understand his speech here?

Troymerei is basically saying that he's too merciful and kind for some trash like Baam and that he only treats him like a person because he comes from outside.

All this is pure arrogance.

Baam doesn't need to be protected, Baam needs to stop being a fucking pawn on this board and act like a real fucking irregular.
I'm sorry but this is the best Baam can get versus a millennia-old Irregular. This isn't Baam being bossed around by Mashenny where I would agree that he should tell her to fuck off. He either does whatever the fuck Rei wants him to by being blackmailed or takes this deal which is still bad for him but is a bit better. This way he might get some influence in the family by marrying the princesses and being another irregular. idk what you want him to do.
 
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