Chapter Tower of God Chapter 539 Spoilers & Discussion

Do you think it's better for Baam to work under Traumerei or to stay with FUG?

  • Baam becoming a Lo Po Bia is better

    Votes: 16 14.3%
  • Staying with FUG is better

    Votes: 60 53.6%
  • Equally bad

    Votes: 36 32.1%

  • Total voters
    112
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Everyone knew Baam entered tower lol not just Yuri! That’s why he sent a team out to execute YHS on the 2nd floor for lying about Baam’s death!!!
My bad then, so you think Zahard only learned the irregular was in fact Baam in hidden floor, but knew an irregular entered the tower back when he was at 2nd floor ?
If so then my bad it makes sense.
 

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Re: Rei power-grabbing - maybe. But he does seem sympathetic to the other FH's thoughts about Baam and also Zahard's.
Yes, I agree. Even when YHS said he was related to hendo's immortality traumerei immediately changed course and ordered YHS to be delivered. Which goes back to traumerei's insanely convenient memory. Traumerei is the sort to believe the lies he tells to himself. Which makes him dangerous...
 

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Arlene's prophecy never depended on Rachel at all. There's a reason Headon made sure to separate her from him. Rachel could very easily have convinced Baam to give up climbing or worst case scenario, killed him when his back was turned.
Are you really going to act as if Baam didn't open the door because Rachel was brought into the tower?
 

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My bad then, so you think Zahard only learned the irregular was in fact Baam in hidden floor, but knew an irregular entered the tower back when he was at 2nd floor ?
If so then my bad it makes sense.
I don't think they necessarily knew who Baam was other than an outsider like Urek. YHS knew who he was. The captain certainly made sure everyone knew the son of Arlene was coming. Perhaps Phanta had a similar message. However, I think it was only time that allowed everyone to piece together that Baam was indeed who they have been waiting for.
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Yes, I agree. Even when YHS said he was related to hendo's immortality traumerei immediately changed course and ordered YHS to be delivered. Which goes back to traumerei's insanely convenient memory. Traumerei is the sort to believe the lies he tells to himself. Which makes him dangerous...
YHS mentioned the immortality contract but not Hendo

All YHS said was "The fragment for the contract of immortality... that man told me to..."
 
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YHS mentioned the immortality contract but not Hendo
True, but what are the odds that this isn't hendo? He even referred to the person in question as his friend. There's no way traumerei would think of a normal tower resident as a friend... He doesn't even consider them people. And even SIU has mentioned YHS is deeply connected to HLB.
 

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Are you really going to act as if Baam didn't open the door because Rachel was brought into the tower?
Rachel certainly didn't open the door to the Tower by herself, it was meant to open that day to let him in. She just slipped through instead and then he opened the door again himself to follow her.
 

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From what aspect?

It used to be in the past, but right now is not really a chain to Baam. It's more like a cooperation in order to achieve the same goal, Baam himself said it that he wants to destroy Zahard and his army:

But I like the idea of Baam being part of Wolhaiksong, I like Urek's mindset a lot, he is one of the top characters.
Plus FUG isn't strong enough to use baam like they please unlike in the past since he is literally strongest aside from luslec, and since luslec supports him, there wouldn't be anyone who would dare to oppose him use him or take hostages from him. Though baam needs to show his strength in front of everyone to make FUG understand.
 

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It's going to be incredibly funny to see Bam say yes and then marriage proposal starts the new arc where fug and guys infiltrate LPB castle or something to save Bam.. I suppose with help of other Families who wants Bam for themselves rather than hand an irregular with unlimited potential in the hands of LPB.
Though LPB is a bit underestimating Bam. So far his track record shows anyone he forced to be a servant ends up betraying him latest case is Yas. So far the betrayal means jack to him but if Bam becomes powerful and betrays him it might cost LPBs life/position
 

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Re: Rei power-grabbing - maybe. But he does seem sympathetic to the other FH's thoughts about Baam and also Zahard's.
I'm leaning toward the idea that Rei is trying to use Baam to defuse or reduce the conflict between the Family Heads.

I don't think they necessarily knew who Baam was other than an outsider like Urek. YHS knew who he was. The captain certainly made sure everyone knew the son of Arlene was coming. Perhaps Phanta had a similar message. However, I think it was only time that allowed everyone to piece together that Baam was indeed who they have been waiting for.
Ren didn't seem to have any idea that there was an Irregular there at all, as he was only dispatched to kill Anaak.

Other than Yuri, who seems to have gotten info (probably from Phanaminium) to know when Baam was coming ahead of time, other Tower folk knew he was coming, but not the exact date. Even YHS and Gustang were probably told that Baam was here by Headon.

Until Baam outed himself, Ren had no idea he was an Irregular and when he "died", just reported it as such. it was only after Zahard found out Baam was alive that they went back and realized that YHS was lying to them.
 

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Rachel certainly didn't open the door to the Tower by herself, it was meant to open that day to let him in. She just slipped through instead and then he opened the door again himself to follow her.
No, the door wouldn't have opened if Baam didn't will it to be. Rachel was used as bait to draw Baam into the tower.
 

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I believe FUG is still an dangerous Organization for baam to be in. Their too corrupted and still has many members that resides in the shadows(blue Holes) that could come after baam in the long run

Example - Khel Hallam, White, Karaka
At this point in the story with baam's power level, high rankers like khel,white are just a joke. Karaka shouldn't even be spoken baam is likely to obilerate him even in base form without any powerups. Baam already showed us he can dominate one of the strongest family member of Strongest family of tower (White) without going all out even before absorbing white and leviathan.He is the strongest aside from luslec in FUG right now.

FUG is much better place than LPB family since he is literally strongest aside from luslec who is right hand of his own father. At the very least he can reform FUG into whatever he wants since nobody can oppose him. On the other hand we have traumerei in here which Baam likely won't be able to defeat until way later in story like early 90s or late 80s floors. traumerei can literally play baam like a puppet and he can't even refuse since he is going to take hostages if he accepts, and since hostages are baam's weak point baam might not even have chance on escaping traumerei's clutches even if he grows stronger than traumerei.

I'm more into the idea that Baam finally manages to reform,change FUG into a proper and nice place to very it's core than him creating a new organisation. It's quite likely V didn't intend to create FUG with thought of being terroist. Baam changing back FUG to it's former state might be much more refreshing and better than him creating a new organisation to me.
 

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Rachel certainly didn't open the door to the Tower by herself, it was meant to open that day to let him in. She just slipped through instead and then he opened the door again himself to follow her.
We know that Phanta, Enryu and Urek all entered the tower willingly.

While it isn't exactly shown in the case of the 10GWs, the God of guardians referred to them as people who opened the doors of the tower themselves.
 
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Plus FUG isn't strong enough to use baam like they please unlike in the past since he is literally strongest aside from luslec, and since luslec supports him, there wouldn't be anyone who would dare to oppose him use him or take hostages from him. Though baam needs to show his strength in front of everyone to make FUG understand.
Idk, he is pretty easy to blackmail. Like how because they got Yehwa he just went along with what a random regular said.

FUG should have always known he would outgrow them all yet they still tried that shit. If Baam wasn't a person that just ignores everything bad done to him, FUG would be ficked right now.
 

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FUG had no more hope for anything, they were massacred for millennia.

Baam was not a trained warrior like the 13GW, much less entered the tower already strong like Urek, so everyone underestimated him, but in the end, it was all Luslec's plan so that Baam proves himself and can lead the FUG with their own merits.
 

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No, the door wouldn't have opened if Baam didn't will it to be. Rachel was used as bait to draw Baam into the tower.
So how did the door open in the first place? We know that there was a prophecy about Baam entering the Tower, is it so odd that things were set up for the Tower to let him in?

We know that Phanta, Enryu and Urek all entered the tower willingly.

While it isn't exactly shown in the case of the 10GWs, the God of guardians referred to them as people who opened the doors of the tower themselves.
What makes you think Rachel has the capacity to open the door to the Tower on her own?
 

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Funnily enough, it's Traumerei who acknowledged Baam's strength more than anyone else.
They're all treating Baam like a weak little.
AA, HJ, even Baam himself -_-;

Baam is not weak, he's dumb.
But around him, somehow, someway White retrieved his power, Yama got a PU and has yet to discover Akrinak living rent-free.

Maybe he'll be the one to get FUG to the top.
Him and Firefish of course
 

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What makes you think Rachel has the capacity to open the door to the Tower on her own?
Uhh, I never said Rachel has the capacity to open the door.

So how did the door open in the first place?
I can't say anything on this as it would be pure speculation but there is definitely something special going on with Rachel

None of the people who accompanied the 10GWs are referred to as irregulars, but SIU said in a tweet that both Baam and Rachel are irregulars, despite Headon stating that she wasn't chosen.

We know that there was a prophecy about Baam entering the Tower, is it so odd that things were set up for the Tower to let him in?
Judging by how other irregulars entered the tower, their will is clearly involved in the process. The tower doesn't just bring them in without them desiring to enter.
 
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