Chapter Tower of God Chapter 545 Spoilers & Discussion

[EternalWinter]

@Demonspeed @Lady pompom


Shin's translation is out, I'll edit the post to include Alpha when it drops ^_^

 

[lazybum]

Alpha's T/L is out, but reading it, it seems to be using Pejaka's T/L

Tower of God Chapter 545 - Alpha Scans

Bam, who was alone all his life has entered the tower to chase after his only friend, Rachel, but how will he survive without having any special strength or power?“What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever...

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[Azure🐬]

Tbh that's too bad, Rachel is still there.
She should mention "Teleport me to the last floor 135" in one of her three wishes, instead of some hulululu power.
Her goal is just that, right?

Rachel: Make me the heroine of this story.
Gustang: Vermin, you what? Let's see, none of the books I have read so far has such a trash heroine to begin with.
May I know which trash novel did you read?

 

[Demonspeed]

We know direct-descendants princesses don't see regulars as humans. However, Lilial said in this chapter that I couldn't even say goodbye properly to my teammates. She doesn't seem to look down on them. I suppose all of them must be from direct descendants of the 10 families.

I don't think SIU said something like this? IIRC He said Princesses are arrogant and that the ones who are from the 10 Families look down on those who aren't. They generally look down on everyone but her teammates are probably people who are considered elite by Regular standards, with strong bloodlines etc.

Off discussion... mangahelpers should have 1 or 2 more reactions, like laughing, and... laughing out loud , and for some discussions, ... ohk leave that one

Plus maybe mangahelpers had more earlier... Like is reaction_id 1, and Hug is id 7 :/

For suggestionns like this you can go there.

 

[sazon]

Poor Sola can't even find out that Namo is dead and how and by whom. These two without each other were useless. I guess this is the end for Sola too. It would be a little interesting to see more of their twin powers. Many other guys were better off dead in this Arc.

At another time, it would be interesting to see how she handles it. I've always thought that when one twin dies, the other absorbs their strength. (I always wanted Shilial to kill Lilial after all).

I honestly don't think SIU introduced them for nothing

 

[King Dryst]

I don't think SIU said something like this? IIRC He said Princesses are arrogant and that the ones who are from the 10 Families look down on those who aren't. They generally look down on everyone but her teammates are probably people who are considered elite by Regular standards, with strong bloodlines etc.

It was something along the lines that Great Family Princesses don't even consider 'common' people (as in, those not born into the Ten Families) to be human. This was from back when we saw the punishment inflicted upon Reflejo for daring to look at Yulia.

Of course, that doesn't have to be a universal rule. For one, I can't envision Yuri ever having that sort of attitude.

 

[sazon]

The presence of Rachel and the series being interesting might have correlation and synchronicity, but not a cause-and-effect relationship. We have arcs where she’s not even there and the story is interesting. In some other arcs, she’s not even the focus, but TOG is still interesting for some other reasons. Don’t make it like if she’s not there, the story will be boring.

Rachel is only an interesting character because of everything she knows, the fact that she's there alone raises expectations about anything we might have in regards to Arlen or outside the tower.

Take that away and the character is nothing more than a real dead weight, that is, SIU will postpone until when he can't anymore to keep her in the story.

 

[Demonspeed]

It was something along the lines that Great Family Princesses don't even consider 'common' people (as in, those not born into the Ten Families) to be human. This was from back when we saw the punishment inflicted upon Reflejo for daring to look at Yulia.

Of course, that doesn't have to be a universal rule. For one, I can't envision Yuri ever having that sort of attitude.

Yeah, it applies to those who are considered proper ones. Yuri is a black sheep among the Princesses. She breaks rules but gets away with a lot of things because of favoritism, befriends people of Wolhaikson etc.

 

[sazon]

Frankly the Nest Arc has been pretty lackluster.It does not feel like a war.War means both sides will suffer casualties but here only the Zahard side lost members.The only named death in FUG's case is Namo and that too at friendly fire incident.

But this is precisely the point that the SIU wanted to make, the FUG has always been underestimated because it lost the wars against the empire and its main members (elders) have been in hiding since Genesis.

The nest narrative was always meant to be a FUG victory and all because of Baam. Without him the first wall would be a disaster.

All of the FUG side, with the exception of YHS, are HR above the DivCo level, that is, at least top 300, while the army only had 4 people at that level, being 2 traitors and 1 still questionable.

I agree with those who said that LS looks more like a war than Ninho, but in reality, SIU always said that this was a prelude.

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So:

1. A.A, Rak, Hwa Ryun and Aria: At the Lo Po Bia HQ, in front of Gustang.
2. YHS, Karaka, Yasratcha, Yama and Doom: Place unknown.
3. Rachel, Yura, Pudidy and co: Po Bidau HQ.
4. Baam, Traumerei, Jinsung, Cha: Near Lilial's ship.

Is that right?

Vincent and the captain's subordinates are also on AA.

And I can't be sure if it's Baam and Rei with Lilial, it could very well be Karaka and SIU is just flirting with this idea of marriage.

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We know direct-descendants princesses don't see regulars as humans. However, Lilial said in this chapter that I couldn't even say goodbye properly to my teammates. She doesn't seem to look down on them. I suppose all of them must be from direct descendants of the 10 families.

Definitely. Lilial is all silly with Androssi over this bloodline issue. Also, if she still has the clicker, we'll need at least a couple of powerful DDs so they can face Anak and Irure when the twins fight with androssi.

 

[King Dryst]

Definitely. Lilial is all silly with Androssi over this bloodline issue. Also, if she still has the clicker, we'll need at least a couple of powerful DDs so they can face Anak and Irure when the twins fight with androssi.

Her husband can take care of those fodders for her.

 

[sazon]

About woon can turn all his/her flame into weapon in case maybe you're forget:

Tower of God - [Season 3] Ep. 3

What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever you desire—it's here.

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And about their flame is some sentinent being or not there is no clue but by khun use it that is the clue how much powerfull is yeon family's flame.

And by woon use her/his flame to create some weapon that's the clue yeon family's flame can be used like that.

As a clue how much powerfull of the flame of yeon family is the flame itself can made yihwa as regular d-rank flying around with only her flame.

Tower of God - [Season 2] Ep. 177

What do you desire? Money and wealth? Honor and pride? Authority and power? Revenge? Or something that transcends them all? Whatever you desire—it's here.

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That is the clue of the yeon family flame's.

Nobody is saying that it cannot become a weapon, we are talking about the flame having an ego, which as you said yourself, there is nothing in history to prove it.

No one is belittling the flame of the Yeon family, we're saying that it doesn't make sense for the flame to become a weapon and then create consciousness in a regular's body.

No matter how gifted with AA ice he is, his regular body shouldn't be able to withstand a ranker's flame, let alone a ranker so old that his mind has degraded.

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Her husband can take care of those fodders for her.

Shilial watching you naively think she would leave Baam for Lilial

 

[King Dryst]

Shilial watching you naively think she would leave Baam for Lilial

He can marry both of them, and still take care of the fodder while they deal with Androssi.

 

[sazon]

I've been thinking, it seems that Orari already knew that Rei had a proposal for the irregular (Baam). So it's very likely that Lilial was actually called back because of the wedding.

In the end, it becomes more and more obvious that she is more disposable as a princess than Shilial and from the dialogue, shilial already knows what this is about.

All according to my waifu's Keikaku.

 

[Azure🐬]

No matter how gifted with AA ice he is, his regular body shouldn't be able to withstand a ranker's flame, let alone a ranker so old that his mind has degraded.

This. SIU has forever been making AA say that the flame fish is dangerous. I feel like I would go crazy if I hear that useless dialogue yet another time.

 

[OmegronAlpha]

I was right that she just come out of bath!

 

[Azure🐬]

All according to my waifu's Keikaku.

How many waifus do you have? Lol.

 

[Alexi52]

Reading the translation it doesn't seem like Gustang and Rachel knew what was going to happen with the teleporter so it's not all according to plan thing, next chapter is going to most likely going to have Rachel ask the LPB Branch leaders what happened, and Gustang will find out what happened with Traumerei from Khun's group

 

[King Dryst]

Gustang will find out what happened with Traumerei from Khun's group

I don't think Koon or anyone else in his group know about Traumerei, and I doubt Maschenny would have shared that information with them. They just know that Baam left to go after Jinsung and didn't return.

Gustang can probably piece the story together with only that much information, though.

 

[Aliblack]

Maybe, but i think that's just a way to show us that Traumerei is doing her dirty. She really didn't seem like a good person at the nhs to me, but i guess now siu wants us to like/pity her.

I know this is a feeling but honestly, I think she's going down the path of antagonist to an ally of the protagonist. SIU has done it numerous times so it's not something surprising.

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Definitely. Lilial is all silly with Androssi over this bloodline issue. Also, if she still has the clicker, we'll need at least a couple of powerful DDs so they can face Anak and Irure when the twins fight with androssi.

She gave the clicker as a gift to Miseng unless she took it back.

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Maybe you're forget what that weapon use for:

No, I haven't forgotten something.

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I don't think SIU said something like this? IIRC He said Princesses are arrogant and that the ones who are from the 10 Families look down on those who aren't. They generally look down on everyone but her teammates are probably people who are considered elite by Regular standards, with strong bloodlines etc.

Blogpost chapter 185: "As for Princesses from the 10 Families, they have clear hierarchical relationships and don’t even treat Regulars as human beings if they’re not from the 10 Families."

 

[aidkim]

So Gustang is still keeping Rachel. Nah. I hope Gustangs plan gets messed up by Baam somehow.

 

[Alexi52]

So Gustang is still keeping Rachel. Nah. I hope Gustangs plan gets messed up by Baam somehow.

His plans are more likely beneficial to Baam though

 

[DeadCosmos]

I think gustang came to ask for a truce or something. he isnt even destroying the mothership and instead talking with kirin, just wanting to see traumerei.