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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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I agree that Asako is WAY too silent, town asako is extremely active and assertive and she has this investigative vibe to her when she's town. She's none of that in this game and it's triggering my spider senses, why does she sound fake to you?

I agree with your question towards Jinx, wanted to ask her that myself.
wrong, im less active early game, you're thinking of late game asako that give it her all
plus doesn't help im busy should be more active in afternoon will answer everything (but im reading everything currently )
Was just about to tak @Marmalade @Kat @GB @Asako to give their active/ passive hints at least, since they're the only ones who didn't, and 2 of them are already very sus.
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you're being too obvious xD
I did hint actually, you just forgot
I said yesterday it was active role
in fact its among the ones I don't consider bad, flashback to asako list of what is good and bad, did it yesterday
 

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Was just about to tak @Marmalade @Kat @GB @Asako to give their active/ passive hints at least, since they're the only ones who didn't, and 2 of them are already very sus.
Maybe I missed it but I don't think our confirmed Lambu hinted active or passive no? He was anti-hint iirc so maybe he has his reasons
 

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Also I'm leaning towards DD today, Asako gives me traitor vibes so I don't see her as priority atm, even if she was recruited last night, she's a mafia member.

(What if Gry picked up on her being traitor and gave her strongman in case she got recruited?)

@Farfalla @Erinyes in the scenario of this game having a traitor, who would be handed a mafia role before being recruited, if he'd be recruited in the same night as the strongman passing, would he be mafia member or would he receive strongman? What's the priority of handing over roles?
 

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Maybe I missed it but I don't think our confirmed Lambu hinted active or passive no? He was anti-hint iirc so maybe he has his reasons
he doesn't need to, he confirmed in fact I prefer if he didn't say anything
 

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Is Salmon favourable?

What are your thoughts so far this phase, and did you use your role last night?
My thoughts are the phase could do with some more action but I'm hardly one to provide judgement in that regard. Good to see Cres use her Noble, means she cannot be traitor unless they somehow have a Mafia Noble. Don't have a formed opinion on game structure or the whereabouts of the night kill. And I most certainly used my role.
 

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not that we'd need him to hint since he was gonna get confirmed with prosecutor
 

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Also I'm leaning towards DD today, Asako gives me traitor vibes so I don't see her as priority atm, even if she was recruited last night, she's a mafia member.

(What if Gry picked up on her being traitor and gave her strongman in case she got recruited?)

@Farfalla @Erinyes in the scenario of this game having a traitor, who would be handed a mafia role before being recruited, if he'd be recruited in the same night as the strongman passing, would he be mafia member or would he receive strongman? What's the priority of handing over roles?
As it's stated in the OP post, transfers are prio 0.
 

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My thoughts are the phase could do with some more action but I'm hardly one to provide judgement in that regard. Good to see Cres use her Noble, means she cannot be traitor unless they somehow have a Mafia Noble. Don't have a formed opinion on game structure or the whereabouts of the night kill. And I most certainly used my role.
Do you think digital or Asako should deserve a lynch today?
 

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what priority is a mafia kill then o.o
 

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Dont think the mechanic does anything with night actions in general no? Like the role change first, and after that night actions (in order of their own priorities)
 

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nvm, prio 3

ok so if traitor gets a role passed, then gets recruited, does he/she keep his passed role, or become mafia member? @Farfalla
 

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"Hello again fellow villagers. It is time for a short recap:

Asako - active
Baka Taichou - active
Brandish – useful (My role is useful. I will promote my role should an unfortunate event befall me. I'm not settled on how to dispose of my skills, perhaps by alphabetical order.)
Copy Panda – active (said he was gonna use his role on GB or Lambu Night 1)
Crescent Jinx – claimed Noble ("This role bring back bad memories because last time I was it, I got lynched D1 by Vandred and then Gry going to be all like “I thought this was a role that couldn’t get lynched.")
digitaldude – active, claimed Mortician
Evil3ye – passive (he likes his role)
GB
-
GrySun
– Mafia Strongman (lynched day 1), probably passed his role onto his teammate
Holt
–„I’ll say that my role has been explicitly mentioned by someone in this thread (at the time of this post.)"
James Rye
- active
Kat
- active, (+ no sanity/insanity as a new info)
Lady Pompom
- Prosecutor
Lambu
–
MadNat
- common role with (maybe) positive effects for towns, sanity
Marmalade
- active
Shad
- active
SirSamuel016
- active

Asako is currently undergoing interrogation, but unfortunately, there is no news of the progress. It seems like several citizens do not feel good about digitaldude who is said to be the Mortician of the town.

I am hoping that the rest of the community will join and contribute more to solving the situation.

That is all for the short recap.

Olivia🫒 "
 

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Dont think the mechanic does anything with night actions in general no? Like the role change first, and after that night actions (in order of their own priorities)
I'm asking this to clear up if asako is traitor and got recruited last night, and gry passed her the role hoping she'd get recruited, if she'd keep the passed role or lose it because she'd become mafia member
 

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"Hello again fellow villagers. It is time for a short recap:

Asako - active
Baka Taichou - active
Brandish – useful (My role is useful. I will promote my role should an unfortunate event befall me. I'm not settled on how to dispose of my skills, perhaps by alphabetical order.)
Copy Panda – active (said he was gonna use his role on GB or Lambu Night 1)
Crescent Jinx – claimed Noble ("This role bring back bad memories because last time I was it, I got lynched D1 by Vandred and then Gry going to be all like “I thought this was a role that couldn’t get lynched.")
digitaldude – active, claimed Mortician
Evil3ye – passive (he likes his role)
GB -
GrySun – Mafia Strongman (lynched day 1), probably passed his role onto his teammate
Holt –„I’ll say that my role has been explicitly mentioned by someone in this thread (at the time of this post.)"
James Rye - active
Kat - active, (+ no sanity/insanity as a new info)
Lady Pompom - Prosecutor
Lambu –
MadNat - common role with (maybe) positive effects for towns, sanity
Marmalade - active
Shad - active
SirSamuel016 - active

Asako is currently undergoing interrogation, but unfortunately, there is no news of the progress. It seems like several citizens do not feel good about digitaldude who is said to be the Mortician of the town.

I am hoping that the rest of the community will join and contribute more to solving the situation.

That is all for the short recap.

Olivia🫒 "
hmm @Holt role mentioned, what town roles have been mentioned in game? bulletproof, psychiatrist, spy, Innocent Child, don't remember any other town roles.
 

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hmm @Holt role mentioned, what town roles have been mentioned in game? bulletproof, psychiatrist, spy, Innocent Child, don't remember any other town roles.
I mentioned almost everysingle townie role in game so his hint is kinda shit


kinda forgot about the new roles at the time
 

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you're being too obvious xD
I am probably atm...

somewhere i said also why i am more obvious and open than even last time... who knows how i play next time, plus it depends on role, and what it can be used for....i am not so sure if i am truely as useful as last time
 

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ok so even if asako would be passed strongman she'd lose it after being recruited.

Not sure how long the dead person has to pass on the role tho', it says in the next phase after he dies, he was lynched so should have passed it during the night, so not possible to give to traitor after recruitment in any way.

Now that I got that out of my system, a recruited traitor will definitely be mafia's main target to pass on a role once they die.

Now, after thinking a bit about it, @James Rye I'd like to know a bit more about you, love. Care to share some stuff besides your active hint?
 
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