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Aight, here are the game infos (setup and actions):
IDAffiliationPrimary RoleSecondary RoleSanityPlayer
1TownDetectiveInsaneMadNat
2TownSpySaneBrandish
3TownDoctorSaneAsako
4TownBansheeGB
5TownNecromancerShad
6TownPsychiatristBaka Taichou
7TownProstituteEvil3ye
8TownBulletproofLambu
9TownMorticiandigital
10TownPsychiatristHolt
11TownProsecutorLady Pompom
12Third PartySanta ClausKat
13Town/MafiaPirateTraitorJames Rye
13Town/MafiaNobleTraitorCrescent
15MafiaMafia DetectiveSirSamuel
16MafiaStrongmanGrySun
17MafiaMafia EscortCopy Panda
18MafiaPirateMarmalade
GIFTS LIST

❄ Brewster's Gift "Drink it hot or give it up." (Hot Potato)
The Hot Potato explodes at the end of a day designated by the host before the start of the game, killing the player holding it. The holder of the Hot Potato doesn't know when it will explode, but he can pass it to another player at night, separately from any night ability he has. This passing can't be blocked. If the holder gets killed, the Potato explodes killing both the holder and the killer; if the holder is lynched, the Potato [dies with him].
❄ Kicks' Gift "You never know how things might turn out." (single-use Bar Keeper redirect)
One player ends up being the drunkest and uses his night action on a random player.
❄ CJ's Gift "A night cruise is a good way to catch night fish." (single-use Mafia Detective)
The Mafia Detective has the ability to investigate one player per Night and learn the player's Role. Only he is told the role of his target via PM. Whenever the Mafia Detective's investigation ability is performed, he cannot be chosen to go for a kill on the same night.
❄ Wisp's Gift "Tah-Dahh!" (this player's votes are worded as "Ho ho ho" during the next day)

❄ Jingle's Gift "Isn't this the best time of the year, kid?" Mandatory 5th Gift
(Santa Clause: this gift allows the game to go on. At the end of the game, Santa wins with the other winning party. Happy celebration ;)



Now first lemme thank @Erinyes for her massive participation in the game. At first, I got the November slot to host alone, and she asked me to join and I'm so happy she did! She's not only a very curious and interested person so we had a very nice and easy time discussing our ideas, but she also has the strength and endurance of a lion... I was often dead while we were hosting, but Erinchi followed everything and kept the game organized. She barely slept @.@ And that's a testimony I really needed to share with you all, 'cause her dedication and calm deserve lots of appreciation.

Also thanks @Hardy and @Vandred for double-checking the game mech (and in Poop's case, the comp as well) and giving us your honest thoughts, so we could try to present a game that would be fair and entertaining to people.

And finally, even tho some other points were addressed already, I'd like to thank all the players, from the heart. I know this game was too soon because of my availability due to local holidays, and I know you guys were tired - which for sure didn't improve during this time lol. So I really need to commend you all, because you guys were either putting in a lot of time and effort inside the game, analyzing and discussing nonstop, or in the deadpad - you guys also got no rest. As hosts, that's the biggest kind of feedback we could get: to have you guys really onboard. Some moves were questionable, but no one can't say any of those teams weren't trying... it's only natural that drained people will make some mistakes, so to me that's another sign of the praise you guys deserve.

Quick comments about the game that I've mentioned in the deadpad already: in general, the idea with the mech was to add a simple new function (and we tried to map beforehand the main game new considerations we'd need to have it in place) but that could allow a new set of strategical moves to be exploited - now I would reconsider the priority we used since we realize it would have been more adherent to people's preference. The game also had 2 Traitors 'cause Pirate is a VERY weak mafia that can suicide and lose the ability to kill later on, so we wanted to give them better odds (lemme say it one more time in here that the notion that means town had 2 extra people to lynch is wrong, first because town had 2 killing tools in the Prosecutor and the Banshee, and second because they don't need to eliminate unrecruited traitors to win). It had 2 Psys 'cause even tho we wanted mafia to have better chances to recruit, that didn't mean we wanted them to recruit BOTH, so town had more chances to find at least one on the other hand (even if one role would get erased eventually), and at the same time the role could cause some confusion that mafia could exploit. The Mortician came in place to trace stuff like Santa and fake claims/transfers regarding any role/action that got "buried" - imo it's more effective than the SM because it can target antitown and spot unknown stuff that could still be in-game; it was a late game resource that had good chances of being effective with the role transfer mech. The Necromancer was also in there for its recycling capabilities since we'd have roles being lost, and in this setup it would be less OP than it usually is, since his options would still be reduced. The Santa was there for extra fun, imo, since the role could still be used even if the OG player and their wincon was gone: two gifts - that we expected to be the last ones - were clear signs that there was a Santa in-game in case it would fly by too successfully - and even that was just to cause some ruckus since the last gift allowed the game to go on after Santa would win - which to me it's a needed measure so we won't have sudden major frustration with an unexpected game end (I do understand why the game usually has to end when Santa is in it, so people don't ignore the role, but in this case we saw an opportunity to play around that and fix the issue regarding that); Santa's other gifts were there to provide some extra spice but unfortunately, as you can see in the night actions, I made a mistake while processing GB's action with the Hot Potato. GB got blocked by Evil when he tried to pass it to James and I overlooked it that the passing can't be blocked. It would have been simple to fix it during the day by PMing the both of them if Bran didn't spy on GB and, coincidentally, Sam hadn't claimed the exact same action and outcome. After discussing with some people, we reached the conclusion that the attitude that would cause the least interference and damage to a bigger number of players would be to just remove the Hot Potato from the game and inform that to GB, which is what we did.

GG mafia, you fought the long battle and won! GG town, it's never easy to be on the more clueless side, trying to put pieces together. GG Santa cause Santa is always fun~
 

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If this was a day where every vote count, your inability to trust me could cause a loss.
but maybe you don't make yourself trustful for me, therefore it is not my inability but yours to sound true and if you are town and wanna lynch me have fun... i am anyway useless, but still town...
which is still a less vote for town...

the point is i am on the side of town unless i have gotten sth weird hidden, which everyone could have and not known...

atm i am playing without hiding anything.. so i am extremly relaxed and hope just town wants to stay alive.. but i can't investigate bc whatever reason..
that i just don't wanna lynch a townie bc i am town, seems to me more understanding than ppl who wanna lynch a townie but knowing someone else is also suspicious,...
 

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atm i am playing without hiding anything.. so i am extremly relaxed and hope just town wants to stay alive.. but i can't investigate bc whatever reason..
that i just don't wanna lynch a townie bc i am town, seems to me more understanding than ppl who wanna lynch a townie but knowing someone else is also suspicious,...
Jinx isn't a town.

but maybe you don't make yourself trustful for me, therefore it is not my inability but yours to sound true and if you are town and wanna lynch me have fun... i am anyway useless, but still town...
which is still a less vote for town...
Since you missed it, I'm currently doing it, the letting you know I'm town.

I'm the one arguing against lynching you this day phase, did you read the thread?

You aren't useless, every vote counts, every lynch counts, this isn't about you, you seem to think you win or lose depending on if you are killed or no, that not how it works, you win if town wins
 

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You aren't useless, every vote counts, every lynch counts, this isn't about you, you seem to think you win or lose depending on if you are killed or no, that not how it works, you win if town wins
i actually do not at all think like this, therefore i question you... you can kill me, you are the one that extremly says i tried not to lynch you... i was not even believing that i am alive today.. i do not mind being dead or alive...
 

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i actually do not at all think like this, therefore i question you... you can kill me, you are the one that extremly says i tried not to lynch you... i was not even believing that i am alive today.. i do not mind being dead or alive...

Amore, your innocent and cute cluelessness and the fact that you doubt shad is because you are alive today
:hee
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The mafia and the third party the prey on innocent townie mind. Don't get them to you.
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When you are the town, you win when you lynch them all. This is why no matter that she is the blue. She is a dangerous cattiva, she has two votes, this is bad so we lynch the her first.
 

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i actually do not at all think like this, therefore i question you... you can kill me, you are the one that extremly says i tried not to lynch you... i was not even believing that i am alive today.. i do not mind being dead or alive...
I actually give up, if you are town I will go back to lynching new players in the mid game, and here I was thinking I developed a new strategy to out play mafia xD But since I want to think well of you I'm gonna assume you aren't, that the only way to explain this kind of arguments.
 

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Feel like james was the safer choice. And there must be a mafia in brandish/samuel.
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But the Jinx confessed. Will you not vote her too? :hmm
waaaaaaat
 

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personaly as longer as ppl try to convince the less i believe them... btw whatever i vote, the lynch will be successful... unless ppl change extremly around plus if if i am shadow, although i doubt that topic is still in discussion, my vote won't count^^...

kinda offtopic question: don't know if some role can block lynchvoting? need to check and read and question
 

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Ok guys. Take me out. Lynch me. Whatever. What are y’all’s suspect lists with me out of the way. Everyone thoughts on the table. Including you @MadNat

there’s so much chaos right now

This is my last town play. After this I’m scum.

Also correlates with me going to work right now :XD
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Evil posts at the same time. Get off my train of thought :pwned
this is the confession post?
 

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this is the confession post?
i think or some post before was another 'confession' but the issue is... that as soon as you are in a lynch as with Asako and Kat, there is not much to say and idk if getting rid of Santa as TP was such a good lynch, and Asako was a bad lynch for town...would i be on a lynch idk if i would just say nothing and let lynch be lynch bc i feel fooled by town...
therefore idk... we make a lot mistakes with a lynch train and next game idk, i wanna think different on this..,..(but i am learning)
 

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@James Rye Fix and vote my lawyer role suggestion, would have come in very handy yesterday.
 

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when you instincts and everything tells you something is odd.. but you can't change anything yet bc less expierence... i mean i think i am anyway the last one who has to vote? and whatever i vote won't change

!votekill Jinx

but after that i don't follow any leads any longer... sth smells fishy with lead and so on... sry but if you are town, even town smells fishy
 

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If I dislike the outcome of this phase I am visiting Shad tonight
I dislike this game and I this like you.
 

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but after that i don't follow any leads any longer... sth smells fishy with lead and so on... sry but if you are town, even town smells fishy
Start from today, why are you doing it one last time?
 
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