Games Mafia Game 108 - Mob Psycho 100 (75%)

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Do apprentice get pm from the host if they managed to learn something?
Yes. You can look in this mafia game section at threads like „Example PMs“ and „interaction thread“ to get a better idea of how certain things work.
 

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@Crescent Jinx what happens if the curse goes to the Healthy Townie, do they become unaffected by it while holding it but can still pass it later or does the curse disappear?
The curse will disappear in that case.
 

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Here are my notes, the complete version now, could be lacking things I missed or forgot to register at the time:

PlayerHintClaimRoleComents
JamesNiche rarely used role, DefuserDefuserPossibly died with the Potato
GryActive role he likesBansheeStarted with Hot Potato
MeNot often used, not first timeVengeful/Sec
EvilOld schoolDoctorStarted with PGO/NVD
BakaActive, don't expect muchNecromancerClaimed to be blocked in N2
ErinAlrdy got it, basically just herSec. InvestigatorClaimed Demon was M Doctor
DemonActive???Mafia Doctor according to Erin
MarmPassive and fitHealthy
DDActive, unimportantApprenticeClaimed to target Demon in N1
KatActive, got a result in N1SpyClaimed DD had a dif. target in N1, GB no target in N2
RavenNew, never had it before, connected to another one she hadTownie, mason, noble, bomb (gotta doube check)
SamActive, protagonist materialPyschiatristClaimed to be blocked in N1
HoltTimeskipApprenticeClaimed no target in N1
BranRefusalActive, said he'd target me to test the PGO
PanduActive he doesn't likeBodyguard
ShijiRefusalInconsistent comments
Wojak-Sec Naive TraitorClaimed fake results were to bait Sakura, list had 5 names
GBRefusalNot a detective, claims he requires a certain scenario
Kato-Spy
Based on this, heavily counting on Erin, there are likely two mafias or a serial killer.

So far Kat and Marm are trustworthy. Does that make GB trustworthy for now? Even though two spies sound suspicious.

Talking about two spies, there are two apprentices as well. Holt and DD, so far sus

For Barn and Raven, I dunno. Could be anything.

Gry - Banshee cannot be proved I guess. For some reason, he sounds like a seasoned mafia to me. But that's not good enough reason to be suspicious.

Shiji - is basically dead at this point.

Baka - trustworthy as well for now.

Just my thought
 

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Following the players list order:

Gry: kinda shared my points on him yday alrdy - even tho he complained in D1 I was subtly setting suspicion on him, as if pointing issues with others is not how this game is played, in the end he just does the same - disguise those complaints into suspicion on me, I just don't know if the intent is malicious, I'm usually more enerved when I feel that's the case. Suspecting is fine, the dynamic is odd. As I've mentioned alrdy as well, some stuff like wanting to get rid of PGO in N3 and going back on what he said about Shijima also didn't sit well with me, cause it goes a bit past the personal style divergence that we have, imo. Neutral about him cause we still seem to share most suspects and cause of what I also said before, better to have him around than not if it's just subjective stuff. Don't think he should be lynched now or should have been in the days before, but don't think he shouldn't be questioned either, especially after some hours ago.

GB: I still don't like his playstyle, this seemly engaged Misho is his scum self to me, can't remember a town game where he wasn't trollish (not saying he trolls the whole game but still he's more erratic and follow his own agenda, plus he's adamant about the ones he considers to be scum, I think he ain't being as categoric on those this time), but feel free to point me to games where that wasn't the case. His hint doesn't fit detective (he said it himself he ain't one), prostitute, anything that came to my mind that could be an important role he'd protect so he could be just insecure about claiming a repeated role or something. Overall I'm not liking people holding back to their roles still even if they wanna protect it, we lost a doc and the BG but we still have some resources, I'd prefer if the silent ones were way fewer based for more specific cases.

Kat: I didn't like her behavior in the start, felt like she was taking a ride on some matters, and I expected her to have shared her results on DD the day before like she said she would since they were conflicting. Those are subjective tho, and considering that even if she's a legit paranoid spy the role still has some use, I wouldn't rush to lynch her and would favor protecting her alongside with some others.

Baka: people have had issues with her hinting which I can totally understand, but on the other hand the discussion about suspecting her over how she communicates stuff isn't something new. Been saying this for some time now, lynching a possible Necro would never be a priority to me unless there's concrete stuff to add to those debates. Meanwhile, I'd also say she should be considered for protection.

Shijima: won't keep echoing my own words... funny that Demon, possibly mafia, argued with me that we shouldn't give a pass to Shijima tho, but considering the amount of scums we're missing and how inconsistently fake that post was (rly couldn't see a different interpretation to it), I rly think he's our best lynch option by miles and I'll rly insist that the way people position themselves about this should be something people would discuss later on.

Bran: still think he's a bit disengaged. Yes, he's a very particular player that likes to have things his own way but imo he's also more participative and open minded when he's town. Also, for 2 days he repeated the "I'll tunnel on Gry-Evil" mantra, based on his theory that one of the combos started with a scum, and now that Evil died as town, she dropped the speech and moved to a new route. I missed the part of what caused that change for him... Finally, as I wrote in that sheet, he said he'd pay me a visit when I was PGO, to test it, so if he claims something that ain't active, I'd lynch him.

Wojak: with the notion that Evil died by accidentally killing James, I was starting to feel a bit better about him, considering a mafia of 5 members +other hidden stuff in game would make sense. Then Gry point out the bit in James post that actually makes sense regarding his possible death so considering 2 mafia parties is back to the table, then a team of 5 is quite unlikely to me. In one hand I still think his naive traitor plan was quite elaborate and knowledgeable for someone that just joined and had a single phase to come up with that, on the other hand he seems to be collaborative so far. In between neutral and scum again also based on the amount of non towns we still gotta find, so elim. process.

Erin: leaning towards town cause of her playstyle (she's been kinda MIA but claims it's cause of work but when she's around I see more of her fierce town self than her insecure scum one) and cause her second investigator claim is aligned with my own role situation. There's this scenario where a scum would have a temp. janitor role since we didn't get a janitor kill in N2, wonder if she'd risk claiming to have found Demon's role if that was the case tho.

Raven: she's as stubborn when she's town as well, I'll give you that, and the shy behaviour from the start is gone now but it was still there before, imo. Another annoying case of holding back stuff and with that causing more harm than not in my opinion again, just like I said about Misho and Shijima. One thing that speaks on her favor is that she was willing to lynch Gry the day before and now, with the same reasoning, she's willing to aid him. Could still be some TP, I'll consider her as scum for now based on those and again on the elim. process.

Marm: she's maybe my fav player this day phase, has a role we can confirm and that is fully aligned with her early hint, I see no reasons to suspect her.

DD: what speaks against DD is the double claim and the debate on his N1 target, but I still had an initial good impression on him for being the one to point out the lack of hints issue. So far I consider him to be town and I'll get to the other reason for that bellow.

Holt: legit didn't like the things I questioned him about yday (before I slept) nor how he first said he was fine with Shijima to then right after vote for him and say he wasn't disregarding the "play" problem. Also, his N1 "no target" decision... that's not how I'd play apprentice... I find it weird that someone would skip a night with it. I'd go for what could be a good role in N1 and if by chance I was insecure about proceeding with it later, I'd just change my target. I'm losing nothing with that that I'm alrdy not losing if I don't target. I could even go back to that track later on if I'd feel better about it, which would totally pay off. So yeah I also don't like that N1 claim. Subjective stuff, like Gry I also rather have him around and he rly excels in later stages, but right now I'm wondering if could be a Rookie.

Had to speed finish those, couldn't proofread, prolly left some things I thought about writing at first out, and could go back to it before the phase ends, but got a meeting in 5 and the rest of this phase will be complicated for me +Hardy travels at night and I'll be working and handling Oli and mom alone from then on. Hope those can be helpful and correct, and wtv happens happens for me then.
 

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Votekill Gry

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If you.re accusing me of that, feel.free to harass me the next day. At least I won.t be responsible for losing this game, if you.re town ofc. But for 1, what would I be backing out of, when I didn.t even vote for shujima, was planning to switch, but I also wanted you to be aware that if you.re wrong you.ll be back on my sus list, precisely because of how you pushed for his death. Nothing more, nothing less, that.s not me backing out of anything, that.s me stating my ground.
shUjima :XD

Look, I'm sorry I can't help you, I even believe that somehow you become a target again the next day. I hope you are MORE HELPFUL THAN I AM in discussions to gain the trust of the townspeople and bring down the mafia even if it is difficult to walk the carriage.

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already to stay silent.
ShijimaThe[B][U]SILENT[/U][/B]Man
 

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baka are you gonna necromatize evil?
not sure yet what I'll do, I'll prolly get blocked anyway
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Why do you sound so defensive though, she didn’t accuse you specifically of anything (as in: personally, sounded more like a general thing).

You think Shijima is town btw? Or just find Gry more sus
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Gwtting busy at work so will most likely be back close to the end of the phase
nah, she didn't outly accuse me. read her comment and think back to the first 2 days of my gameplay style.

I just find gry more sus.
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well I don't think you guys need me to change vote to shijima, but since only 2 locked I guess I'll change just in case.

!Votelock Shijima
 

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not sure yet what I'll do, I'll prolly get blocked anyway
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nah, she didn't outly accuse me. read her comment and think back to the first 2 days of my gameplay style.

I just find gry more sus.
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well I don't think you guys need me to change vote to shijima, but since only 2 locked I guess I'll change just in case.

!Votelock Shijima
Was/am quite annoyed at some people yday, but just so you won't feel unresponded: I told you you can bring me your steam, you say you'd take some as well, so we're on the same page about how we'd react to each other.
 

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i love the nicknames you guys come up with for me xD
 

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That said @Bakura, Shijima flipping mafia doesn‘t confirm me nor Farf due to 2 mafia teams. But I‘d like to believe after Demon was caught in the crossfire the mafia would take an afk-ish backseat and not lead lynches and be a very public figure with role claimed, but we‘ll see.
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Don't you want to change your vote and vote for me too? Look, there's time.
Wanna admit being mafia to make the waiting time better?
 

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@Erinyes @Brandish μ

Don't you want to join the party?

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I just want to see after my lynching what you will invent about me.
 

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@Erinyes @Brandish μ

Don't you want to join the party?

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I just want to see after my lynching what you will invent about me.
Shijima, despite the incident with those posts in this game, would you even consider sharing stuff about your role in future ones?
Cause for whenever you're town, being that resistant is quite harming. Idk what holds you back so much, like what happened in your first game.
 

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Revealing my role:

don't kill me I AM THE MAFIA BOSS....(I told irony)
 
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