Games Mafia Game 108 - Mob Psycho 100 (75%)

[Crescent Jinx]

This is on discord but will put here too.

 

[wojak]

@Baka Taichou who would you pass the pgo to?

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Anyone claimed any protecting role so far?

 

[GrySun]

I have used my role very night without getting blocked so far

Next question, does it help us in any way for you to tell us what action you are doing? If you know for sure you‘re not being blocked then that implies you are a role that could really help us out right now.

As for your questions, Kat and Baka claim to have gotten blocked. Holt was maybe blocked N2 or N3, hard to say when. He could also fail if you were blocked on N2 or N3.

Blocked person being mafia would be implied, but then Farfalla said she used a role that protected her last night, so failed kills could've been directed at protected Farfalla.

 

[Holt]

You think he was blocked ?

@wojack do you think you could have been blocked ? on N1 or N2

Him getting blocked would have nothing to do with me being successful.

you targetted a PGO?

Yes I did, which is why I theorized yesterday that Evil might've died trying to protect Wojak. Otherwise, I'd be dead myself.

 

[wojak]

Next question, does it help us in any way for you to tell us what action you are doing? If you know for sure you‘re not being blocked then that implies you are a role that could really help us out right now.

What is the situation of town right now, you think? Is it really bad? Or hanging in the balance?

As for your questions, Kat and Baka claim to have gotten blocked. Holt was maybe blocked N2 or N3, hard to say when. He could also fail if you were blocked on N2 or N3.

I was not blocked in any of the nights. I know that for sure. Holt claimed he got blocked on both nights.

Blocked person being mafia would be implied, but then Farfalla said she used a role that protected her last night, so failed kills could've been directed at protected Farfalla.

Farfalla hid behind marmalade? Would that not mean marmalade would be targeted instead?

 

[GrySun]

@Erinyes @digitaldude depending on who dies today, most likely you both want to target James with SM. Let DD say it first. Both clears up James‘ vague statement and maybe confirms DD.

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

Him getting blocked would have nothing to do with me being successful.



Yes I did, which is why I theorized yesterday that Evil might've died trying to protect Wojak. Otherwise, I'd be dead myself.

1. Are you blocked with all the numerous deaths this night? is that how you are alive?

 

[Holt]

Can't see that as not ill intended since I don't even know why you specifically is doing that, I wrote twice why your case wasn't about speaking on his defense alone it was that you did so to then say you had written my arguments and vote for him asap, anyone can check that.

Curious about your PGO targeting reply btw.

Ill-intended how? I literally said yesterday that I'm pretty sure what he flips would be little connected to what he is, because he has already done similar in the past. I also said I wouldn't be opposed to it, especially when he carried on anyway, but I also said I would've preferred more focus on other potentials. I also gave my thoughts on a few people, and no I didn't vote asap, I did when he was already well and truly on his way to be lynched. I was yet to vote at the time, there was nothing more to it.

Responded about the PGO already.

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What does that imply?
You were blocked two straight nights? Or I didn’t do any night actions in those nights?

It implies my learning wasn't successful, however, I'm pretty sure I was blocked last night. There is no other explanation. It doesn't have anything to do with whatever night actions you may or may not have done.

 

[wojak]

however, I'm pretty sure I was blocked last night

The night before that?

 

[Lawl Po Bia]

BULLSHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

Votelick Holtish

 

[Holt]

See so many quotes with repeated questions so I'm just going to answer all of them at once and be done with it

1- Why no N1 target: I literally had no read on anyone, and I simply didn't want to random target. For me that is as pointless as switching the following day. I don't disagree with those saying no harm in N1 targeting tho, but for me if I randomly picked someone on N1, the chances of me repicking them N2 is slim. So I'd rather not. I also didn't follow well enough on N1 to even begin to consider who is trustworthy or has a good role.

2- Why Wojak N2: Prior to him revealing traitor, he was already implying he had something good, Sam tried to get more confirmation on this too. I also liked how he was playing even tho it's his first here, and he seemed genuine enough. At the time I didn't know he was going to get PGO tbh, when I saw it the next day, I assumed I didn't die because a higher prio or a coin flip caused someone else to be killed. I said as much in the thread, I only left out the part about targeting him since I didn't want to reveal that yet. 3 deaths that night made me more sure of this.

3- Why Wojak again N3: Decided to follow through, because he said he still had another role he was not ready to disclose, and even with the (naive?) traitor reveal, I still didn't think he was scum. Also wasn't interested in switching targets and starting again. I also wasn't worried about PGO because I was working with the assumption that it was already spent the previous night, so I felt safe in doing so. I will admit I didn't consider priority of passing. I honestly assumed they were both 0, since these were more mechanic-related things.

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The night before that?

I'm certain I learned from you N2. Just don't know about N3.

 

[Baka Taichou]

how would Evil die N2 by targeting to protect the PGO, when he was the one who had the PGO D1+N1, and the person he sent it to the next day would have it D2+N2?

So he sends it to X and then decides fully aware that the person doesn't need protection (since he sent it himself), to protect them, knowing full well that they have PGO and he'll die?

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that makes no sense whatsoever @Holt

 

[digitaldude]

You are in quite the pickle holt.

 

[wojak]

I still think Holt is a mafia....but there are things he is truthful about

 

[Baka Taichou]

james sam and evil all died n2, so the only way PGO would be rendered useless is if one of the 3 targeted the pgo holder on N2 right? It can't be Evil since he's the one who sent it, so either James bomb defuser (don't see why) or Sam with psychiatrist. Probably Sam in this scenario. Who had the PGO on N2?

 

[Marmalade]

Yes I did, which is why I theorized yesterday that Evil might've died trying to protect Wojak. Otherwise, I'd be dead myself.

Okay this is interesting. About to go to work so won’t be here for some hours, but I suggest we go back and look at the night Evil died and keep the priorities of passing and doctoring etc in mind. Like does this fit, if Evil hypothetically doctored Wojak?
Priority of passing was 4 right?

 

[GrySun]

Him getting blocked would have nothing to do with me being successful.

It would, because that‘s how Apprentice works.

 

[Baka Taichou]

I think holt is telling the truth about the PGO being used up already, just that he's wrong about it being Evil, since evil was the one who sent it, so makes no sense to target the same person. Only one is Sam's psychiatrist action who could have triggered the PGO, I don't remember if evil mentioned who he was sending it to or who claimed to have received it D2?

 

[Holt]

how would Evil die N2 by targeting to protect the PGO, when he was the one who had the PGO D1+N1, and the person he sent it to the next day would have it D2+N2?

So he sends it to X and then decides fully aware that the person doesn't need protection (since he sent it himself), to protect them, knowing full well that they have PGO and he'll die?

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that makes no sense whatsoever @Holt

Evil gave it to Farf N1? Farf gave it to Wojak N2?? Wojak passed it to you N3. It wasn't Evil that gave Wojak

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It would, because that‘s how Apprentice works.

Apprentice fails if his target was blocked? how?

 

[Baka Taichou]

Okay this is interesting. About to go to work so won’t be here for some hours, but I suggest we go back and look at the night Evil died and keep the priorities of passing and doctoring etc in mind. Like does this fit, if Evil hypothetically doctored Wojak?
Priority of passing was 4 right?

evil has pgo in D1, N1 he sends it to X, D2 X receives PGO, N2 X is still in possession of PGO and protected by it, and sends action to pass it on to Y, D3 Y receives PGO. Why would Evil target X to protect with doctor on N2 if he just sent him PGO on N1 and knew he'd still have it N2?

 

[GrySun]

Apprentice fails if his target was blocked? how?

You have the role description in your PM, surely?