Games Mafia Game 110 - Game of Thrones II - End game

[Erinyes]

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Santa gifts, it s not exactly mechanics, but more a cosmetic aspect making use of the game and Easter. I gave up on initial mechanics , because there was not enough players.

The Gifts :
2 of them were sent.

Dragons eggs
-To be given 1st, as they need to be bred, once they grow, on day 3 they will grant a one use ability to the recipient, depending on how well they were bred, the recipient's performance (voting, killing etc.).
It could grant a day kill or a freeman/burden, or nothing if the recipient's performance is 50/50.

3 Eyed Raven
"Vision"- It grants a vision power.
A one use Spirit medium secondary to recipient if town, 2 uses of mafia detective uses if the recipient is non- town

Iron coin
- "Vallhar morghulis"
grants 1 noble vote to the recipient.

Needle
- "Not today"
- Makes the recipient immune to any kill, Lynch, Night kill, Day kill for 1 day.

7 Gods' blessing
- Ultimate game gift
If Santa manages to deliver all the gifts the game will keep going, and Santa will co win it with the winners.

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Feel free to leave any constructive criticism, especially regarding balance, or anything else you want for improving for next games.



Apologies again for the missteps, mistakes or anything that went wrong, or anything that might have frustrated you ( like extending phases ;arf)


I will update OP post Asap , apologies, I kept forgetting it.

 

[GrySun]

Why did you target Tatsu?

 

[Lady pompom]

A Virgo detective? Not buying it

Why target Grysun though, didn't Shad dying as Mafia escort practically clear him as the prostitute. You wanted to check your sanity?

Yeah, and I got innocent on a person I distrusted, plus like I've said, I hate active roles as often I do not target well and end up not getting good results, as you can see this is where we are now.

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Why did you target Tatsu?

Lawl's post about her being sus, and after analyzing her posts a bit, I did have some distrust on her, so I wanted to target someone I distrusted, then someone like you who was more pro-town, see the results and hopefully find out what I am. Just so happens, GB died before sharing his own results (if he even investigated her that night).

 

[Hermit]

Imo, one of Sam/Wojak is lying about their protecting roles. There is a Mafia between those two and Tatsumaki.

Yeah, and I got innocent on a person I distrusted, plus like I've said, I hate active roles as often I do not target well and end up not getting good results, as you can see this is where we are now.

You hate being a det?

Ive actually never been one before, im partly jealous. Imagine being that useful to town

 

[Lady pompom]

Ah, and you didn't die either, so that leaves me in a bad spot. I still think it's useful for town to press others too since so far, not many are speaking and people like Daws and wojak are getting quite under the radar.

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You hate being a det?

Or any active role that doesn't include a one usage shot actually. Well, I hope you get to be det one day.

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Imo, one of Sam/Wojak is lying about their protecting roles. There is a Mafia between those two and Tatsumaki.

Like I said, between the two, I'd go for wojak because Sam's posts so far were a lot more concise and pro town imo.

 

[GrySun]

I'm not sure where to stand about Farfy

Sorry Pom but this tells me all I need to know not to trust you. If you were telling the truth then Farfy should be someone you distrust a lot instead of just being „unsure“. Remember that GB died as Det so you‘re considering 3 Dets in like 13 players?
And why hide being a Det so long. I understand D2 but waiting til a Spy blows your cover, in a small game, with too many of your role around.. It‘s not believable.

 

[Hermit]

@GrySun How did you say that bodyguard/doctor thing works again? Like if they both targeted the same person would the bodyguard still die?

 

[SonOfDaws]

After quickly skimming before work, it seems like two of my top suspects are claiming vanilla and, now, there's little doubt about Pom.

I have to go, but a couple things to note:

Yes, you're right, but now you ruined the plan if mafia hadn't targeted me yet thinking I'm traitor. I targeted Gry last night and found innocent and I targeted Tatsu N1 and found innocent. Now, explain to me why I didn't die to tatsu if she's PGO? I could only think of me being Bulletproof secondary or because she isn't a Pgo at all and I'm probably a dysfunctional det anyways since our det died long ago.

Panic det claims are almost as common as panic bomb claims and I don't remember Pom being critical of Farf and her claim, even now and we know how unlikely triple det in a game of this size is.

Furthermore, look at who she decided to include. One is a trusted player and another is one of the least trusted players, Pompom is lumping these two together as the same alignment. If Pom comes up mafia, then I think the chances of Tatsu being a mafia she was trying to protect go up.

As for the possibility of Pom being santa, sure, but guilty is guilty and I don't think it would be wise to overthink and let a hostile party roam-free because of a random mystery "egg". If whatever Gry is talking about is a santa gift, then it is more than likely that a number of those gifts are mafia-friendly too and I don't see why a TP cornered by town wouldn't start trying to rely on mafia more if they could.

Too risky.

This is a solid point to remember as well:

Her vote on DD to me seemed her trying to save Shad by starting a lynch mob on the other investigator. She tried to save me in a similar way in that Jojo game you hosted last year, or maybe im reading too much into this

Just like with the double innocent on Gry and Tatsu, her DD vote seems more like trying to save her mafia bud than making an honest and true vote.

Votekill Lady Pompom

The only result that would perhaps present a better target would be Farf's, but I have to leave and certainly won't have time to play during my workday.

As for my action tonight, it will remain the same: Gry again.

Best of luck

 

[Lady pompom]

Sorry Pom but this tells me all I need to know not to trust you. If you were telling the truth then Farfy should be someone you distrust a lot instead of just being „unsure“. Remember that GB died as Det so you‘re considering 3 Dets in like 13 players?
And why hide being a Det so long. I understand D2 but waiting til a Spy blows your cover, in a small game, with too many of your role around.. It‘s not believable.

I am probably naive anyways. And I don't think D3 is so long, you do know you'd need at least three nights to get good results, right? If you're lucky, two. In my case, I wanted asap confirmation counting you'd probably die N2 as usual, then I can happily get a grasp on my sanity and use it. You've played det before, Gry, and you know I'm bad at those roles they give me twitchy eye, no way you think "it's too late"

 

[GrySun]

@GrySun How did you say that bodyguard/doctor thing works again? Like if they both targeted the same person would the bodyguard still die?

Yes.

 

[Lady pompom]

Votekill tatsu

I still think tatsu is mafia and between wojak, Juviii and Farfy, one of them is in it with her.

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Daws starting a bandwagon on me before even confirming whether he learned from Gry doesn't bode well to me either. Shouldn't he have learned from Gry already?

 

[GrySun]

I am probably naive anyways. And I don't think D3 is so long, you do know you'd need at least three nights to get good results, right? If you're lucky, two. In my case, I wanted asap confirmation counting you'd probably die N2 as usual, then I can happily get a grasp on my sanity and use it. You've played det before, Gry, and you know I'm bad at those roles they give me twitchy eye, no way you think "it's too late"

Why would hosts give a useless Naive Det Bulletproof secondary powers and leave real Dets like presumably GB out to dry? Sounds to me like you lack conviction of a role you had for 3 days.

!votekill Lady pompom

 

[Hermit]

Yes.

Thats the biggest reason im wary of wojak. Unless Pom is really the third party.

 

[GrySun]

Unfortunate side-step if she‘s Santa, since we had Sam/Daws as very fishy options to grill. Tatsumaki as well. Farf/Juviii as an afterthought. Hmhm.

 

[Lady pompom]

Thats the biggest reason im wary of wojak. Unless Pom is really the third party.

Wojak is most likely mafia.

 

[GrySun]

Thats the biggest reason im wary of wojak. Unless Pom is really the third party.

Between the two I trust wojak more actually, but I could be wrong. This is likely to remain a headache for another day.

 

[Lady pompom]

Why would hosts give a useless Naive Det Bulletproof secondary powers and leave real Dets like presumably GB out to dry? Sounds to me like you lack conviction of a role you had for 3 days.

!votekill Lady pompom

Which conviction, I baited people for my secondary all along I've literally spelled my plans out loud of "trying do something with my secondary" to bait mafia, we don't get a kill and I'm helping here, meanwhile a probably mafia tatsu that Lawl pointed as sus D1 and wojak get to roam free. Sure, go ahead.

 

[Hermit]

Wojak is most likely mafia.

Well he would be my second most ideal target to lynch today after you honestly.

But somehow you saying hes Mafia....makes me think he isnt

 

[GrySun]

Which conviction, I baited people for my secondary all along I've literally spelled my plans out loud of "trying do something with my secondary" to bait mafia, we don't get a kill and I'm helping here, meanwhile a probably mafia tatsu that Lawl pointed as sus D1 and wojak get to roam free. Sure, go ahead.

Why not just claim Det and hide the fact you have a secondary? Would go more along the way of baiting a kill if you wanted that.
When does your BP power expire?

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The gift I got is really really broken so I‘m being very confused all day how to play with this in mind now. Santa gift or no this skews the balance towards town quite hard.

 

[Hermit]

Unfortunate side-step if she‘s Santa, since we had Sam/Daws as very fishy options to grill. Tatsumaki as well. Farf/Juviii as an afterthought. Hmhm.

What if you blocked her tonight, prevent her from giving any presents so we can lynch an actual Mafia (Kidding, im not even sure if Santa can be blocked).

Actually her throwing wojak and Tatsumaki under the bus is making me trust them more. Weird.

 

[Tatsumaki]

So Pom all this time to reveal: Townie + bp ?
Then no actually you're the 3rd det. (Who never really went after farf the 2nd det)
And you don’t understand why you survived on me even tho you have BP. Hmmm yeah okay.