Chapter Tower of God Chapter 573 Spoilers & Discussion

[Big-Bird]

https://cosmicscans.com/tower-of-god-chapter-573/

@Demonspeed

 

[EternalWinter]

@Demonspeed @Lady pompom

 

[King Dryst]

And his appearance is - yet again - helpful for Baam. Has been every time he's shown up.

I don't see this as a situation that Baam would not have been able to deal with himself. Something bad might have happened to Koon, at which point everyone there is getting what White got. But either way, a sufficiently motivated Baam can probably body this batch of pursuers.

Traumerei is a different matter, but as of now he's not there.

 

[Ignorant]

Maybe Lobadon is not a traitor!?!

Traumerei is the best tactician
Even if he is losing now we can’t tell if all of this is part of plan.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

And why wouldn't he?

The FH have always been like this, they think they are gods.

Baam was convenient for Gustang at that point, in return him curing the piece of shit Rachel.

But in the end it was precisely Gustang's fault for everything that happened at LS.

He knew from the beginning that Baam wouldn't get the bracelet, so he used the manta ray.

He threatened AA to bring Baam to the PB mothership.

Even AA knows that Baam will only be used by big shots so he wanted to go to PB as a last resort.

And finally, Gustang welcomed Rachel knowing that she would be a threat to Baam (not in power), he is as reliable as Traumerei, or even worse.

OF COURSE the FHs act that way - but Gustang specifically hasn't been doing that with Baam.

Baam has, in no way, shown any antagonism about anything Gustang has been involved with.

Had Gustang not Thorned Baam up, he'd be dead. Over and over. The first Thorn was made sure by Gustang to get to Baam. And the second one. That is a huge boon to Baam.

AA is bitter about it, but he'll absolutely get over it. Just like Baam fighting alongside Karaka or White. This happens over and over. The bigger picture is their interests are aligned.

It can't but help be noticed by Baam that without Gustang's direct involvement here as well, Baam would be forced to play house by Rei.

Gustang takes the 'flies with honey' approach, and it has been working. @ me when it doesn't.

 

[sazon]

HJ once said that no matter how powerful a family is, the FH will always be there to balance things out.

Maybe that's what Rei wants, eliminate the useless, win the war and then restructure everything.

I don't think he would go to war with Gustang if he wasn't sure about his chances of even competing here.

It was clear that even though he is passive, he is an extremely calculating character.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I don't see this as a situation that Baam would not have been able to deal with himself. Something bad might have happened to Koon, at which point everyone there is getting what White got. But either way, a sufficiently motivated Baam can probably body this batch of pursuers.

Traumerei is a different matter, but as of now he's not there.

Well, let's not just gloss over the Rei part. All he has to do - sans Gustang - is waltz right up and Baam is a sitting duck. In the meanwhile, his best friend would be vaporized.

No one is even contending with the turtle, and Yuri is sitting on her hands.

It's taken Gustang's direct involvement, yet again, to make sure things go right for Baam.

 

[King Dryst]

Well, let's not just gloss over the Rei part. All he has to do - sans Gustang - is waltz right up and Baam is a sitting duck.

And all he has to do - regardless of Gustang - is use Cobalt Frog to grab Baam and all of this is moot. SIU seems to have forgotten about that, though.

It's taken Gustang's direct involvement, yet again, to make sure things go right for Baam.

I don't really still care to think of Baam as being this fundamentally useless, so I'm not going to.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

I don't think he would go to war with Gustang if he wasn't sure about his chances of even competing here.

It was clear that even though he is passive, he is an extremely calculating character.

It seems to me the exact opposite. Rei overestimates his calculations, and here Gustang is - YET AGAIN - to throw a wrench in Rei's plans.

Some chessmaster if you ask me.

Keep in mind - Gustang ran the figures first. Rei wouldn't even be fighting Gustang if the latter hadn't planned for everything when he decided to go against Zahard and everything Zahard threw at him.

 

[sazon]

OF COURSE the FHs act that way - but Gustang specifically hasn't been doing that with Baam.

Baam has, in no way, shown any antagonism about anything Gustang has been involved with.

Had Gustang not Thorned Baam up, he'd be dead. Over and over. The first Thorn was made sure by Gustang to get to Baam. And the second one. That is a huge boon to Baam.

AA is bitter about it, but he'll absolutely get over it. Just like Baam fighting alongside Karaka or White. This happens over and over. The bigger picture is their interests are aligned.

It can't but help be noticed by Baam that without Gustang's direct involvement here as well, Baam would be forced to play house by Rei.

Gustang takes the 'flies with honey' approach, and it has been working. @ me when it doesn't.

And does that change the fact that Gustang Baam is a tool?

It's not a question of who is better or worse in this situation.

It is obvious that if it were to choose where to flee, PB would be a better option.

But it also doesn't change the fact that this whole time Gustang has been using Baam.

And that's exactly what we were debating, if it was Urek 90% of Gustang's plans to fuck baam all the time wouldn't work (the other 10% would work because they involved women).

Be it Gustang, Rei or Luslec, everyone wants to use Baam for something, the difference is that some are more open than others.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

And all he has to do - regardless of Gustang - is use Cobalt Frog to grab Baam and all of this is moot.

Methinks you're constantly underestimating Gustang. Cobalt frog might be a big deal for the small fry, but I doubt it would get past Gustang.

I don't really still care to think of Baam as being this fundamentally useless, so I'm not going to.

Don't get me wrong. I too want Baam to have agency, and stand more on his own feet. But, this is two FH's and he's just not ready to say 'no' to either - by force or by right. At least one of them is at least ACTING friendly and helping Baam along the way.

Gustang hasn't forced Baam's hand on anything so far.

 

[King Dryst]

In the meanwhile, his best friend would be vaporized.

All this statement is doing is giving me more reason to resent Gustang here. Koon being gone would be such a benefit to the story as a whole. And then take into account that the spear might also have gotten Androssi at the same time. Mega heel turn by glasses man. Saw it coming the moment he brought Rachel into his house.

 

[sazon]

It seems to me the exact opposite. Rei overestimates his calculations, and here Gustang is - YET AGAIN - to throw a wrench in Rei's plans.

Some chessmaster if you ask me.

Keep in mind - Gustang ran the figures first. Rei wouldn't even be fighting Gustang if the latter hadn't planned for everything when he decided to go against Zahard and everything Zahard threw at him.

And everyone spent weeks talking about how inert Traumerei was and in the last two weeks we got the truth.

I agree that Rei is overestimating his calculations, but regarding Baam, never Gustang, he would never underestimate any of the 13GW.

And so far, Gustang has not been able to fool Rei.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

And does that change the fact that Gustang Baam is a tool?

It's not a question of who is better or worse in this situation.

It is obvious that if it were to choose where to flee, PB would be a better option.

But it also doesn't change the fact that this whole time Gustang has been using Baam.

And that's exactly what we were debating, if it was Urek 90% of Gustang's plans to fuck baam all the time wouldn't work (the other 10% would work because they involved women).

Be it Gustang, Rei or Luslec, everyone wants to use Baam for something, the difference is that some are more open than others.

Which is what Urek warned Baam about.

But, consider from Baam's perspective: Gustang is giving Baam an out here.

You act like it has been unilateral only in Gustang's favor each time he interacts with Baam. That's not the case at all - it's been mutually beneficial, and Baam has been better off for it each time. Gustang has also never threatened Baam. Unlike FUG and Rei.

 

[sazon]

I wouldn't be surprised that the King's way of dealing with Gustang would be to bring in Bloodmadder.

Bits of junk get along well after all.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

And everyone spent weeks talking about how inert Traumerei was and in the last two weeks we got the truth.

I agree that Rei is overestimating his calculations, but regarding Baam, never Gustang, he would never underestimate any of the 13GW.

And so far, Gustang has not been able to fool Rei.

Rei has been the one tooting his own horn. Gustang has already screwed up how the Nest went for Rei, and it's now screwing up the smoothness of how things are going in Rei's very own backyard.

If we were to compare how well each has planned and how well things have gone for each, you think Rei is beating Gustang in that measure?

--- Double Post Merged, May 28, 2023, Original Post Date: May 28, 2023 ---

I wouldn't be surprised that the King's way of dealing with Gustang would be to bring in Bloodmadder.

Bits of junk get along well after all.

Zahard OTOH employing *his* backup plan with a Bloodmadder or Adori to counter Gustang (knowing Rei wasn't solo qualified) is a twist I'd enjoy.

 

[lianecel]

Lol the Rev plan is working!!! Mas said Levi is Traum’s weakness! Maybe if Gustang makes Traum remember, that will make Traum vulnerable to death! Lobadon is about to attack Gustang’s weakness! The FHs could possibly cancel out one another here!!!

"Lobadin is about to attack gustang weakness" ,

I want anything u just smoke, cause u be hitting high

 

[OmegronAlpha]

Gustang to the rescue ?

Now If I not wrong Siu does mention that Gustang will be boss in his own arc like? I really wonder what is his plan right now and what is his ultimate goal

 

[Yelnats]

AA NEVER stopped BH's attack, the ice broke instantly

But the lighthouse shield is not broken. Is it AA or Gustang?

Elbada can control multiple Shinheuh beast!

What shinheuh he control other than the wolf?

Stupid reason why Yuri cannot fight.

Yuri can fight in the hotel because she is invited to the tournament and the hotel is the stage. It will be a violation if she fight BH outside the tournament.

Pretty pathetic Matte and Tiara didn’t jump through the portal too!!! Her ability should be able to protect her here right?

She return to her ordinary body without ability, she can write again though.

It because Gustang had ordered them to escape if it too difficult for her and matte to capture bam and these two were just a bait

And ordered them to let Baam join the traitor in that case.

According to webtoon Mas said Zahard was hiding something there after the eggs hatched and it was all wrong It was Traumerei who was hiding something

Mas actually revealed that the story was made up, Zahard army use it as official reason to hid their true intention of using Jinsung as bait.

At least Androssi is a princess and used BongBong to boost her speed. AA just ran away from the OP Turtle on his own. Imagine a shinheuh used by a FH that can't outspeed a reg with its very first, surprise attack.

AA asked Endorsi for Bong2

The funniest thing is that Traum does not trust his sons and daughters BUT he trusted Mas to run the Nest op LOL

Yet he trust those BH to capture Baam...

He threatened AA to bring Baam to the PB mothership.

He wasn't threatening at all though.

HJ once said that no matter how powerful a family is, the FH will always be there to balance things out.

Because when they go all out, all family members die, only FH remains. It become just 1 vs 1 who cannot even kill each other or kill themselves, a balance state.

 

[Headlights]

quick run down
everyone was right
everyone meets everyone
Khun does get flushed into the Aquarium
Goro saved a bunch on his car insurance by switching to Geico
Cha dances with Wolf
A wild Gustang appears....

 

[sazon]

Which is what Urek warned Baam about.

But, consider from Baam's perspective: Gustang is giving Baam an out here.

You act like it has been unilateral only in Gustang's favor each time he interacts with Baam. That's not the case at all - it's been mutually beneficial, and Baam has been better off for it each time. Gustang has also never threatened Baam. Unlike FUG and Rei.

In their last encounter Baam almost got killed 300x in last sstation and Gustang did shit.

A negotiation requires both parties to be equal, for Gustang Baam it clearly is not.

He did not differ from Maschenny, for example.

You see, him dealing with Gustang isn't bad, but Gus isn't the nice guy you're portraying.

So yeah, if Baam has a chance to get away without needing Gustang, he should fuck both FHs.

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

Yuri can fight in the hotel because she is invited to the tournament and the hotel is the stage. It will be a violation if she fight BH outside the tournament.

The LPB didn't invite Yuri, HJ did, in spite of Rei wanting it to be a closed event.

She's also not there to compete - she's there to take Baam - as we literally seeing her try to do via the portal.



She had to know fighting was going to be likely, and that meant fighting a LPB.

It's beyond stupid she claims she cannot fight a LPB now.