Games Mafia Game 125 - PSYCHO-PAN - End Game

[Tatsumaki]

He pretty much let us believe he's Enforcer if thats the case.

I believe "I like anal" was pretty clear.
But yeah since people asked afterwards he could have insisted on it.

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Okay so it's 4 enforcers claims not 5.

 

[Vandred]

Votekill GrySun, yeah...

Yeah but even if the dead one might then be considered confirmed there are still 3 others enforcer to lynch between.
I think my point was just that it doesn't mean the real enforcers are safe at night, mafia will still want them dead since they have blocking powers.
But I get your point.

Getting rid Enforcers would depend on what the mafia would choose as their targeting strategy, but since everyone they kill from a group with extra numbers takes one townie away from the lynching pool, I don't think they will care much about removing power roles.

 

[SirSamuel016]

I've read through the thread and I'm still trying to gather my thoughts through my eye issue atm but what I do see is there's some frauds around already with the claims. I'm an Analyst, and I'm not sure I trust how Wojak was a bit ambivilous rather than outright saying it- it almost seems like he wanted to leave himself the wiggle room if push came to shove. Backing it up by saying he already claimed instead of outright clarifying what he meant only muddies his situation. Not sure if I trust Shino either.

 

[wojak]

There is no particular hoe role, chud. Its Hide/Hoe/Doc. N you r sus.

 

[SirSamuel016]

I would shelf the mass Enforcers and other roles, and first settle the vanillas since mafia is unlikely to kill in this group and make the decision any easier.

You think sorting the agent situation out would provide the most clarity at this point?

 

[GrySun]

You think sorting the agent situation out would provide the most clarity at this point?

No, it wont tell anything about the other 3 scum that probably has you in it. The main benefit is really confirmed vanillas, instead of lugging Vand around til endgame.

But I like Vand so..

 

[SirSamuel016]

No, it wont tell anything about the other 3 scum that probably has you in it. The main benefit is really confirmed vanillas, instead of lugging Vand around til endgame.

But I like Vand so..

Whatever gives us the most clarity to weed out the scums is ideally what we'd go for given the information available- there's a few lines to consider for what's the best plan of attack, but this would be the safest option if the lynch is wrong so I don't mind it.

 

[Tatsumaki]

So claims are
Asymptomatic Agent : Brandish
Inspector : Erin, DD
Analyst : shinobi, wojak, Sam = 1scum
Enforcer : Evil, Farf, Holt, Tatsu = 1scum
Ministry Agent, - Gry, Juvii, Vandred = 1 scum

Soooo we're only missing Lambu's claim ? Or did I miss it ?

 

[Farfalla]

I think only Lambs left yeah but I'm not on my comp to check on my notes/double check Evils list right now. I'll bbl

 

[wojak]

Day end timing is bad for me. I need to sleep. Don’t know if I can catch the day end
Votekill Sir Sam

 

[GrySun]

Order of events:

1. Lambu suggesting mass claims D2
2. Evil claims immediately in response. Enforcer
3. Brand says he also intends to claim D1 or 2
4. Vand is skeptical about the benefits of the mass reveals
5. Juviii also says shes fine with reveals
6. Farf is optimistic mass reveal will work because the usual non claimers like Brand were in favor of it
7. Brand claims Asymptomatic Agent
8. Gry claims Ministry Agent
9. Shino says she intends to also claim D1 or 2
10. Erin implies being a good role
11. Juviii claims Ministry Agent
12. Erin claims Inspector
13. Farf claims Enforcer
14. DD claims Inspector
15. Wojak says something, later says it was a claim of Analyst
16. Shinobi claims Analyst
17. Vandred claims Ministry Agent
18. Holt claims Enforcer
19. Tatsumaki claims Enforcer
20. Sam claims Analyst

Key takeaways are the early people‘s stances, as well as the order of our claimed roles:

1/1 Asymptomatic: Only Brandish
2/2 Inspector: First Erin, second DD
3/2 Analyst: First Wojak(kinda), second shinobi, third Sam
4/3 Enforcer: First Evil, second Farf, third Holt, fourth Tatsumaki
3/2 Ministry Agents: First Gry, second Juviii, third Vandred

Unclaimed: Lambu

I am inclined to trust all the ones that claimed first their role, so Brand, Evil, Erin, Wojak, and well, myself, but Juviii was quite close by.

Given Juviii‘s early comments about claiming and how naturally she shared, even without the easter egg play she looks much greener than Vand to me.

 

[wojak]

Too tired to reread the whole thread. Don’t know what’s doing on with Van n Juv. Just by reading the atmosphere Van maybe a better lynch. But cannot vote without understanding what’s going on

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With this, gud night chuds n chudettes.

 

[Evil3ye]

Wow, we have a full claim list already on day 1. Interesting game.
So there will be a sus in each group.

Bran vs Lambu seems inevitable and has the highest mafia lynch ratio of 50% I think.

I'll catch up later and give my few cents. Think we still have plenty time, no?

 

[Vandred]

So claims are
Asymptomatic Agent : Brandish
Inspector : Erin, DD
Analyst : shinobi, wojak, Sam = 1scum
Enforcer : Evil, Farf, Holt, Tatsu = 1scum
Ministry Agent, - Gry, Juvii, Vandred = 1 scum

Soooo we're only missing Lambu's claim ? Or did I miss it ?

I believe that checks out. Right now the purely mathematical odds of catching mafia are:
33% for Analyst
25% for Enforcer
Technically 33% but essentially 50% for Ministry Agent.

Lambu would bump those numbers up to 50%, 40%, or 66% respectively.

Lambu notwithstanding, AA and Inspector are confirmed and likely nightkill targets, so the most efficient gameplan would be playing "spot the intruder" in the other categories one by one while Analysts and Enforcers aid in the search, with Inspectors only unlocking a use for their role much later, if using them will even be beneficial at all.

Ministry Agents are the least damaging roles to lose, and it's a guaranteed mafia lynch either today or tomorrow sooo...

 

[GrySun]

Current thoughts on mafias, process of elimination + their posts, stances on sharing etc:

1. Vandred
2. Samuel
3. Holt

Last one depends where Lambu goes. I trust Lambu off of his early suggestion for reveals so depending on what he says it could get interesting, but it could also be Lambu.

Could also be Tatsu or Farf instead of Holt but current gut feeling is Holt. Sam is fishier than the other 2 Analysts.

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Wow, we have a full claim list already on day 1. Interesting game.
So there will be a sus in each group.

Bran vs Lambu seems inevitable and has the highest mafia lynch ratio of 50% I think.

I'll catch up later and give my few cents. Think we still have plenty time, no?

Lambu doesnt need to contest Brand, he could claim anything

 

[Evil3ye]

Lambu doesnt need to contest Brand, he could claim anything

Oh trueeee, Bran could be our first confirmed even.

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@Lambu you here?

 

[Lambu]

We are doing this Day 1 then, guess my low faith in town was misplaced this time

It turns out theres not just one but two fake analysts, since Im one hehehe

 

[Evil3ye]

@Brandish μ is uncontested then. I never doubted bae

 

[Lambu]

Oh trueeee, Bran could be our first confirmed even.

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@Lambu you here?

Aye, quick reading and taking in some reads on people

 

[Juviii]

Order of events:

1. Lambu suggesting mass claims D2
2. Evil claims immediately in response. Enforcer
3. Brand says he also intends to claim D1 or 2
4. Vand is skeptical about the benefits of the mass reveals
5. Juviii also says shes fine with reveals
6. Farf is optimistic mass reveal will work because the usual non claimers like Brand were in favor of it
7. Brand claims Asymptomatic Agent
8. Gry claims Ministry Agent
9. Shino says she intends to also claim D1 or 2
10. Erin implies being a good role
11. Juviii claims Ministry Agent
12. Erin claims Inspector
13. Farf claims Enforcer
14. DD claims Inspector
15. Wojak says something, later says it was a claim of Analyst
16. Shinobi claims Analyst
17. Vandred claims Ministry Agent
18. Holt claims Enforcer
19. Tatsumaki claims Enforcer
20. Sam claims Analyst

Key takeaways are the early people‘s stances, as well as the order of our claimed roles:

1/1 Asymptomatic: Only Brandish
2/2 Inspector: First Erin, second DD
3/2 Analyst: First Wojak(kinda), second shinobi, third Sam
4/3 Enforcer: First Evil, second Farf, third Holt, fourth Tatsumaki
3/2 Ministry Agents: First Gry, second Juviii, third Vandred

Unclaimed: Lambu

I am inclined to trust all the ones that claimed first their role, so Brand, Evil, Erin, Wojak, and well, myself, but Juviii was quite close by.

Given Juviii‘s early comments about claiming and how naturally she shared, even without the easter egg play she looks much greener than Vand to me.
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Funny you say this cause you were ready to jump on me the moment Vandred appeared:

Vand‘s a charmer, he can make me turn on Juviii with ease.

Now instead of my "lack of motivation" you noticed the early agreement to claim. Nice focus shift there.

Edit: wrong use of quotes

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I give up on quotes...