Games Mafia Game 125 - PSYCHO-PAN - End Game

[Farfalla]

Agent group seems to be between Gry and Van, but why not juvi? I didn't really understand the conversation about their PM content and why her hint would exclude the mafia alignment.

Ah nvm.

 

[GrySun]

and that he couldn't focus on other things because of his situation

This was when I understood your post as you wanting me to spread out instead of focus on the guaranteed mafia I‘m paired with.

Not sure at this point if Farf is acting in good faith with these but well, not important right now.

I‘d think reading mine and Vand‘s first posts should give a good indication of who‘s playing it safe and who is playing normally..

 

[Evil3ye]

Ain't it safe to remove Juvs as sus (not counting secondaries as well) since both Van and Gry acknowledged she's clean?

But that in itself is pretty absurd. Apparently they both know what she was talking about, basically confirming that the townies AND mafia agent got the same PM content. Makes absolutely zero sense to disregard her

 

[Farfalla]

but also a mislynch in this group is fairly manageable due to role-relevance.

It's also a bit icky for mafia but lucky for us that the mislynch will get scums closer to a death by prosecution (ahead of any townies involved there, since townies can't participate in kills by action *looks at the doc role* I hope).

 

[digitaldude]

Cant keep my vote on erinyes, gotta get the duplicate guys

 

[Farfalla]

So you also lean towards agent lynch instead of analyst?

Hmmm they seemed numerically equal but with an anal mislynch we lose an ability while in the other case we don't, so yeah.
And I do understand your point on Juvs, I thought "if even the fake had to tag along and acknowledge she dropped something, it could be legit" but I didn't account your common ground point. In that case, both Van and Gry are town and they're giving Juvs a pass but they don't seem to be visiting that either.

 

[Evil3ye]

OK I just reread the first appearance of Van, and the first of his post is in response to Lambu's plan, in which he was weighting in the pros and conts, leaning towards it being benefitial, and literally the second post is him challenging the Juv vs Gry vanilla claims.

Not sure about why Gry said he was flippy floppy at all. In fact Van looks the best of the three for me. I would rather Gry vs Juvs right now.

 

[Farfalla]

This was when I understood your post as you wanting me to spread out instead of focus on the guaranteed mafia I‘m paired with.

Not sure at this point if Farf is acting in good faith with these but well, not important right now.

You never addressed my response, so I couldn't know. But yeah in the case you're a townie I can see why you'd question my good faith on those.
I don't plan on making a case on you tho, even if what I believe in doesn't change in the end, so in case I'm currently wrong I won't be putting you thru further disgust this time.

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But that in itself is pretty absurd. Apparently they both know what she was talking about, basically confirming that the townies AND mafia agent got the same PM content. Makes absolutely zero sense to disregard her

Not in a scenario where one is faking to understand. They can't pinpoint what she meant to confirm it because it's rule-breaking.

 

[Tatsumaki]

So, did you make a sense of how to use the Enforcer role yet?

I have. I'm just worried about the possibilities of duplicate actions that we would come to regret later.
(And also considerably rise the number of points of the target, but we agreed that the risk caused by that aren't too bad)

 

[Evil3ye]

GrySun 2x - Farfalla (#29), Vandred (#142)

Vandred 2x - Lambu (#15), GrySun (#131)

Juviii 2x - SirSamuel (#20), Wojak (#30)

Also - looking at the vote spread, the most suspicious voters are on Juvs. Sam and wojak both in the sus anal group. Definitely looks like an attempted save as the other voters look fairly plausible with one defense vote each and an other vote.

 

[Tatsumaki]

Does the "first post has to be a vote" mechanic apply to every day phases ??

 

[Evil3ye]

Ahh nvm, actually those are super early votes pre reveal mostly, so not a save per se yet.

 

[Farfalla]

I have. I'm just worried about the possibilities of duplicate actions that we would come to regret later.
(And also considerably rise the number of points of the target, but we agreed that the risk caused by that aren't too bad)

It is what it is, we can't coord with fake among us and that's not even interesting since, yes, we would succeed at having some surviving but we'd also guarantee someone dies.

 

[GrySun]

OK I just reread the first appearance of Van, and the first of his post is in response to Lambu's plan, in which he was weighting in the pros and conts, leaning towards it being benefitial, and literally the second post is him challenging the Juv vs Gry vanilla claims.

Not sure about why Gry said he was flippy floppy at all. In fact Van looks the best of the three for me. I would rather Gry vs Juvs right now.

Even Vand himself said he changed his mind overnight, so you‘re clearly bad at interpreting text you read.

You never addressed my response, so I couldn't know. But yeah in the case you're a townie I can see why you'd question my good faith on those.
I don't plan on making a case on you tho, even if what I believe in doesn't change in the end, so in case I'm currently wrong I won't be putting you thru further disgust this time.

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Not in a scenario where one is faking to understand. They can't pinpoint what she meant to confirm it because it's rule-breaking.

But whats the use of delaying our case? No Dets or anything that can clarify anything more down the line, it‘ll just keep being a thing tiring people‘s minds from day to day. If it has to be me I‘d rather be axed early and Vand afterwards than be kept around knowing I‘m the preferred lynch days later.

 

[Evil3ye]

Even Vand himself said he changed his mind overnight, so you‘re clearly bad at interpreting text you read.

No really, I think you are, because you are in defense mode right now. He just said we could calculate the % and lynch by that and that kind of early game would be better for Town. Mind you, that it was just in the first hours. And next post he made was to join your vanilla group.

But why do you completely disregard Juvi, who claimed just after you, seems also beyond me and it's tunneling on Van instead.

 

[Farfalla]

But whats the use of delaying our case? No Dets or anything that can clarify anything more down the line, it‘ll just keep being a thing tiring people‘s minds from day to day. If it has to be me I‘d rather be axed early and Vand afterwards than be kept around knowing I‘m the preferred lynch days later.

I'm not saying we should delay (I've been saying the contrary). Just won't be contributing with more posts about you being red when I can't even be sure of it. If I'm right, then you have a small kid and is an unrested mafo under attack a second time in a row. If I'm wrong, then I'm repeating something that was very unpleasant for the both of us. I've shared my position and I'll say more if I come to change it, and vote likewise.

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Hmmm on Juvs behalf, considering ministries don't have a mafia counterpart, I see it as borderline impossible that she would pick up a piece of content that belongs to their role and with the biggest luck on earth place it there to look like a real deal to the... real deals. I'm not a ministry and I can't spot the easter egg so I rly take her as clean.

 

[GrySun]

I‘m not coming back after this post, do your stuff and at worst hopefully the mislynch makes town play better in the next days.

I do wish the reasons weren‘t as silly as framing analysis posts on players as secret commands to the team but wcyd

 

[Vandred]

But that in itself is pretty absurd. Apparently they both know what she was talking about, basically confirming that the townies AND mafia agent got the same PM content. Makes absolutely zero sense to disregard her

Hmmm they seemed numerically equal but with an anal mislynch we lose an ability while in the other case we don't, so yeah.
And I do understand your point on Juvs, I thought "if even the fake had to tag along and acknowledge she dropped something, it could be legit" but I didn't account your common ground point. In that case, both Van and Gry are town and they're giving Juvs a pass but they don't seem to be visiting that either.

You're correct in your understading, and maybe my personal distaste for any incidents of the sort is influencing my judgment, but it really is a a huge stretch that seems much simpler to take at face value (not like similar episodes never happened in the past) and do 1+1. Or, 3-1 in this case.

 

[Evil3ye]

I'm a true green agent.

Ok so

So, apparently this line is supposed to be the easter egg for which other agent reads it and both, the real and the fake other agents are claiming to have gotten it as they clear her from sus list, so, how effective could it have been.

What do you think juvs who is the fake among you?

 

[Vandred]

I‘m not coming back after this post, do your stuff and at worst hopefully the mislynch makes town play better in the next days.

I do wish the reasons weren‘t as silly as framing analysis posts on players as secret commands to the team but wcyd

I'm going to be busy for around an hour so I guess our diss track follow-up isn't going to happen