Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 56 Spoilers & Discussion

What are you expecting to see from Eduan in this fight? (Unlimited selectable responses)

  • Lightning techniques.

    Votes: 17 43.6%
  • New Attributes(Ice, etc).

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Shinsoo Manipulation Techniques unrelated to Attributes.

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Shinwonryu.

    Votes: 19 48.7%
  • Weapons ( but not the main spear).

    Votes: 7 17.9%
  • The main spear.

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • Everything.

    Votes: 9 23.1%

  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .

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If Urek despite his directed hate and anger towards the Shinies still holds some form of love towards them despite the betrayal, presumably remnants from when he was a baby and they raised him for so long...........this makes it even more sad then quite honestly.
They are only seven of their kind in the world too.
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he took on Mago, someone stronger than Aubrion. You’re working backwards.
Aubryon has way better feats than Mago.
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The Aubryon disrespect is the most baffling thing.
 

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And shinsu compared to light or darkness, is still raw to me. Maybe when new pillar is born, shinsu might level up. Inside the tower, shinsu makes up for its quality with quantity of we compete it with light and darkness which he are eternal. That's why Sbhs which has light theme is so special in the tower.
that’s interesting since light or darkness are quite lackluster to me atm. Shinsoo still vastly outstrip them in capabilities and versatility atm.
 

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he took on Mago, someone stronger than Aubrion. You’re working backwards.
Eh?

It's the direct opposite here, Aubryon took on Urek who's stronger than Mago.
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They are only seven of their kind in the world too.

Yup yup, almost alone in the universe and imagine being made even more alone than that after your family tries to usurp ya.


Honestly they gotta die, permanently so Urek can fully heal.
 

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Aubryon has way better feats than Mago.
the only direct point of comparison is their fight with Urek. Mago powered up like 3 times total compared to that base version that fought Urek and Eduan took that form on.

So no, I don’t think it’s clear that Aubrion has better feats than the light engined Mago.
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Eh?

It's the direct opposite here, Aubryon took on Urek who's stronger than Mago.
he got obliterated by Urek. I would expect light engined Mago to put up a similar level of resistance against Urek at the very least.
 

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They are only seven of their kind in the world too.
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Aubryon has way better feats than Mago.
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The Aubryon disrespect is the most baffling thing.
Mago only stole very small percentage of urek's light where urek himself was using way more light against aburion and aburion was still holding his own. It took urek to combine his light powers with shinsoo to beat him. No way weakened mago with little beat of urek's light is on same level as urek with shinsoo powers. Aburion did better against much stronger opponent than eduan against a weaker oppnent. Aburion >> Weakened mago.
 

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the only direct point of comparison is their fight with Urek. Mago powered up like 3 times total compared to that base version that fought Urek and Eduan took that form on.

So no, I don’t think it’s clear that Aubrion has better feats than the light engined Mago.
  1. Mago was never at full power. Her peak still unknown and that's what Aubryon was banking on. She is their ace to devour the Tower.
  2. Mago was able to injure Eduan once she absorbed Urek's PoL partially but inferior overall.
  3. Mago was dominating Eduan once she absorbed Urek's tiny Light(from the owner himself) partially.
  4. Mago lost because Urek's tiny PoL ran out.
  5. Emphasis on the tiny.

Aubryon was able to match Urek for some time, injured him and tanked much stronger PoL attacks. He had a powered up form and needed to be killed by the first SFOD. An attack which was clearly the strongest of the arc and is a fusion of Shinsoo + PoL.
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Other than Latour, who was dominating Urek in the previous chapter, you won't find someone who did better. Yet, he is constantly called a weakling by some. Now, Urek is calling Latour a weakling too, which is very funny.

Agenda is one thing, but the Aubryon downplay is just crazy.
 

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  1. Mago was never at full power.
  2. Mago was able to injure Eduan once she absorbed Urek's PoL partially.
  3. Mago was dominating Eduan once she absorbed Urek's tiny Light(from the owner himself) partially.
  4. Mago lost because Urek's tiny PoL ran out.
  5. Emphasis on the tiny.

Aubryon was able to match Urek for some time, injured him and tanked much stronger PoL attacks. He had a powered up form and needed to be killed by the first SFOD. An attack which was clearly the strongest of the arc.
Mago has more than just Urek's tiny PoL. It unlocked more abilities for her (the box tricks) and paired with her reversal that's actually useable in direct combat. So I don't think this is a fair 1:1 comparison. Mago has more than just straight CQC skills which is all Aubrion amounted to.

for e.g. I don't see what abilities Aubrion has to beat light engine mode Mago either until the PoL runs out. He has nothing to even counter reversal.
 

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Mago has more than just Urek's tiny PoL. It unlocked more abilities for her (the box tricks) and paired with her reversal that's actually useable in direct combat. So I don't think this is a fair 1:1 comparison. Mago has more than just straight CQC skills which is all Aubrion amounted to.

for e.g. I don't see what abilities Aubrion has to beat light engine mode Mago either until the PoL runs out. He has nothing to even counter reversal.
Still below her peak and Urek's own power level against Aubryon and that's what matters the most.
 

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Still below her peak and Urek's own power level against Aubryon and that's what matters the most.
Her peak is above Abrion so thats moot.

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Urek isn’t protecting Latuor or Mago; he’s protecting the Princess. Urek got angry at Eduan because he was basically going to kill the nameless Princess, and Urek is supposed to have promised that he would kill Zahard.
 

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Mago was dominating Eduan once she absorbed Urek's tiny Light
Until Edhan went to his GOL form, then he began dominating the fight once again.

Also, it's impossible to say urek used more light against Aubrion then he gave to mago, you can't rely on visuals alone.


One more thing - Urek himself said he wasn't properly fighting aubriyon until thier axis talk when he finally understood what was happening and then pretty much destroyed him.

You cannont rely on that fight at all to power scale them
 

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Her peak is above Abrion so thats moot.

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Her peak is above Aubryon yes, but her peak is unknown as of now. The whole plan is to make her reach her peak.

Aubryon stated that he was at his peak. He was the stronger antagonist, had the stronger opponent and did decently well.

You can't tell me that Mago's Masenkos (proved that she was using Urek's PoL for this months ago) were close to the strength of Urek's attacks.
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Until Edhan went to his GOL form, then he began dominating the fight once again.

Also, it's impossible to say urek used more light against Aubrion then he gave to mago, you can't rely on visuals alone.


One more thing - Urek himself said he wasn't properly fighting aubriyon until thier axis talk when he finally understood what was happening and then pretty much destroyed him.

You cannont rely on that fight at all to power scale them
Not fighting properly doesn't reduce the power of his attacks. And still, Aubryon had great feats despite this. Same for his King.
 

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Her peak is above Aubryon yes, but her peak is unknown as of now. The whole plan is to make her reach her peak.

Aubryon stated that he was at his peak. He was the stronger antagonist, had the stronger opponent and did decently well.

You can't tell me that Mago's Masenkos (proved that she was using Urek's PoL for this months ago) were close to the strength of Urek's attacks.
Abilities matters. You can't even prove this peak state Aubrion can even beat PoL Mago.

PoL Mago is not just some random 5% Urek equivalent either. Urek has no bullshit reversal and box tricks.
 

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Abilities matters. You can't even prove this peak state Aubrion can even beat PoL Mago.
We can argue about this but how does he lose to Eduan? Eduan has no Reversal and can be hit by PoL even in GoL mode. To add, he has a time limit.

It's less about Mago and Aubryon and more about Aubryon and Eduan. Especially the ridiculous downplay of Aubryon's feats.
 

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We can argue about this but how does he lose to Eduan? Eduan has no Reversal and can be hit by PoL even in GoL mode. To add, he has a time limit.

It's less about Mago and Aubryon and more about Aubryon and Eduan. Especially the ridiculous downplay of Aubryon's feats.
We'll see about this as soon as next week.

But merely from the two sources of statement from Mago and Lator (both of whom are above Aubrion) speak of Eduan as powerful is enough for me to conclude they're around the same tier.
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and this reversal thing is just like shinwonryuu

Mago's reversal is applicable in battle just like Traumerei's shinwonryu.

Aubrion and Lator is similar to Gustang. It has not direct application in frontal combat.
 

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  1. Mago was never at full power. Her peak still unknown and that's what Aubryon was banking on. She is their ace to devour the Tower.
  2. Mago was able to injure Eduan once she absorbed Urek's PoL partially but inferior overall.
  3. Mago was dominating Eduan once she absorbed Urek's tiny Light(from the owner himself) partially.
  4. Mago lost because Urek's tiny PoL ran out.
  5. Emphasis on the tiny.
One of the reasons I downplay Edahn is, he managed to hit Mago twice when she was overconfident on her Counter. She could have dodged those 2 attacks and even the 3rd one was when she got tricked by Neo.
 

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One of the reasons I downplay Edahn is, he managed to hit Mago twice when she was overconfident on her Counter. She could have dodged those 2 attacks and even the 3rd one was when she got tricked by Neo.
Would you downplay Urek as well since he fell for that counter trick and he has prior experience fighting Mago in the past.

to date, this counter reversal is very high up there as far as bullshit goes.
 

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Would you downplay Urek as well since he fell for that counter trick and he has prior experience fighting Mago in the past.
It's not just because Mago was overconfident it's because Edahn got W moments only when Mago bet on her Counter. If we just exclude those moments, the fight was lackluster from Edahn side. Not taking away from Edahn that he managed to hit Mago despite Counter was active. It's just that those attacks could have been dodged if she knew Counter doesn't work.
 
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