Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 59 Spoilers & Discussion

Thoughts on Baek Ryun's bloodline?

  • He is from the Ari Family.

    Votes: 2 8.0%
  • From the 10F but not a Ari.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Descendant of two of the 10 Families like Enne, the Ha Twins, Lyborick etc.

    Votes: 1 4.0%
  • 10F-Snake hybrid.

    Votes: 4 16.0%
  • Pure Towerborn.

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • Something else.

    Votes: 9 36.0%

  • Total voters
    25
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Yeah I get that but the axises in the old lore would never lose their powers to some non axises imo.
i am pretty sure that those versions of Shinies were much much much more powerful than these weak versions we are seeing here and those ppl could have stolen ureks power. and when mago had taken ureks power she has said now she is light like urek is .... because in the past it seems they have stolen ureks full power because mago has said it in the way like she was sure that her light now would be infinity because in the past it was limitless ... and question shall be asked where that unlimited light did go ? .... who used unlimited light ?


and i am now pretty sure that all shining ones are axis users, because they have their own powers unlike fhs whose power is just shinsoo nothing else otherwise i cannot explain how emperor can have powers outside yet FHs dont ? fhs dont even have power to fly so i cannot explain anything , evne lets say there are much more power systems outside but no fh has anything like that , which means emperor is also axiser but a bit weak ...





Fhs have power only inside of the tower and not outside , when they will leave the tower they will have no power at all because tower generates shinsoo , so i can say that pretty much all shinies are axisers and in the old stories there were weak axisers and strong axisers , some axisers could be as weak as kallaval is but will kallavan be able to kill that axisers ? hell no


So axis can be power otherwise fhs shall have axis powers also but they dont have anything at all, so that's big difference fhs are like villagers in the old stories where ppl were praying like mad to awake axis powers, so fhs love the power and that's whole idea because they didn't fully climb they couldn't achieve axishood now they are without axis powers , so they dont want to leave and they also dont allow anyone to climb above and crumble this tower .


and after aubrion has said about urek being like penta, it simply means that he is much more powerful axiser than those previous shinies including aubrion mago and all that , plus aubrion isn't dumb he knew that urek was superior to him but in this case he lived in tower much longer so his body used to it and he can use his power(light+darkness) as he wishes unlike urek , and when aubrion and latour have been exchaning words he has said like "urek now used to shinsoo ?" which means the moment you enter until your body needs time to use to shinsoo and its enoviroment .
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Axes are probably very rare now. I wouldn’t be surprised if phanta and Urek were the only axes in their universe. The shinning ones are not axes imo.
Only in the case if shinies have eaten all of them and that can be a case .
 

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Yeah I get that but the axes in the old lore would never lose their powers to some non axes imo. Or maybe Urek didn’t become an Axis yet when that happened?
We know they can't be defeated. Urek most likely lost his power because they fooled him. They were his masters and family.

Axes are probably very rare now. I wouldn’t be surprised if phanta and Urek were the only axes in their universe. The shinning ones are not axes imo.
Probably not that rare because I doubt Phanta is the first Axis to call himself King.
 

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This is already confirmed. Outside urek , phanta , eos baam and any other canon axis if introduced are strongest beings. If outside god is also an axis , you can include it also. What is interesting is how much percentage of his light powers can urek use inside the tower? Is he above admins? If so to what extent and so on.
Urek is nerfed, lets say mago had taken ureks 5% of power but ureks power can replenish itself unlike mago so its not a big problem , it was problem only for that time

as for ureks limit with light could be between 35-50% and surely its nowhere 100% , because urek is plunged into watery domain and his light is like fire , and fire and water cannot befriend each other much so urek will be nerfed in the tower still evne if his body will use to enviroment , its like if Towers axiser would be plunged into firy sun axiser will water be powerful enough to use its full potential inside of that domain ? and answer is no ...



And as for light urek if he can go above admins ? if he can output his 50% then yes , and now even if he cannot output 50% of his light he can use shinsoo + light and that'd be okay plus urek is physically strong now we have seen urek punched this big monster here and admins are monster fish, big fish but still you may punch them and urek has enough power to do so and admins cannot stop urek because they cannot control his light , so urek cannot be stopped like FHs so urek is different and he isn't threatened by admins like fhs are and fhs only power source is SHINSOO not physically they are strong and neither they have any power but shinsoo


and when urek uses shinsoo and when urek doesn't use shinsoo we can take it as an example and measure power and how shinsoo amplifies and strenghtens body and lets you to be more powerful , just look at ureks physical punch at fod it was serious punch without shinsoo , can fhs do so ? surely not because they aren't phyiscally strong without shinsoo , shinsoo is used in many ways and one of the way is to make your body more tough and more powerful and all that


and we also look at urek , when even princess can harm him yet the same time when urek is serious not even Admin's child cannot harm him at all, and like i love to say power is power and eurasias flame also gives us perfect picture , we have ton of pictures that gives us perfect example that power is power , for example magos light also while eduan was threatened and he tried to avoid it at all costs , and if mago had her full power ? eduan would be toast ...


so urek will haven no problems with admins



and evne in this chapter eduan warned urek and now urek goes down to not shine too much , and this is urek who doesn't know tower and all that but in main series urek literally says he isn't afraid of anyone or anything in the tower which means urek tasted all fhs powers and all that, and i am pretty much sure that enryu is also shiny thus urek seeing and knowing enryu killed an admin and then urek kicking all those shinies already which means urek literally isn't afraid of anyone , even hedon told to us that urek shall not enter ... yet urek was weakened and latour is a hell strong guy and we shall have see 3 more shinies and those guys will be 3-4 times stronger than him so what hedon would think of them ? ... so urek kicking and admin isn't a big problem because admins are cocky only with shinsoo users , and i dont care about admins at all because admins do not care about anything unless you wreck havoc they chill and that's it , so admins don't seem to be bad guys if you ask me
 

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i am pretty sure that those versions of Shinies were much much much more powerful than these weak versions we are seeing here and those ppl could have stolen ureks power. and when mago had taken ureks power she has said now she is light like urek is .... because in the past it seems they have stolen ureks full power because mago has said it in the way like she was sure that her light now would be infinity because in the past it was limitless ... and question shall be asked where that unlimited light did go ? .... who used unlimited light ?


and i am now pretty sure that all shining ones are axis users, because they have their own powers unlike fhs whose power is just shinsoo nothing else otherwise i cannot explain how emperor can have powers outside yet FHs dont ? fhs dont even have power to fly so i cannot explain anything , evne lets say there are much more power systems outside but no fh has anything like that , which means emperor is also axiser but a bit weak ...





Fhs have power only inside of the tower and not outside , when they will leave the tower they will have no power at all because tower generates shinsoo , so i can say that pretty much all shinies are axisers and in the old stories there were weak axisers and strong axisers , some axisers could be as weak as kallaval is but will kallavan be able to kill that axisers ? hell no


So axis can be power otherwise fhs shall have axis powers also but they dont have anything at all, so that's big difference fhs are like villagers in the old stories where ppl were praying like mad to awake axis powers, so fhs love the power and that's whole idea because they didn't fully climb they couldn't achieve axishood now they are without axis powers , so they dont want to leave and they also dont allow anyone to climb above and crumble this tower .


and after aubrion has said about urek being like penta, it simply means that he is much more powerful axiser than those previous shinies including aubrion mago and all that , plus aubrion isn't dumb he knew that urek was superior to him but in this case he lived in tower much longer so his body used to it and he can use his power(light+darkness) as he wishes unlike urek , and when aubrion and latour have been exchaning words he has said like "urek now used to shinsoo ?" which means the moment you enter until your body needs time to use to shinsoo and its enoviroment .
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Only in the case if shinies have eaten all of them and that can be a case .
When Aubrion said “immense beings” to Urek he was referring to axes imo. He did not put the shinning ones in that category. So I don’t believe they are axes. However I do believe the shining ones at their peak were Enryu caliber. So entities above the admins.
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We know they can't be defeated. Urek most likely lost his power because they fooled him. They were his masters and family.



Probably not that rare because I doubt Phanta is the first Axis to call himself King.
I don’t think the shinning ones are axes and they were the strongest beings until phanta came around. So Phanta and Urek were the only two axes in their universe. But there are probably more axes in other universes.
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@Strange Also I saw someone on discord point out that all the shinning ones we’ve seen so far are named after French wines. So this is probably another hint that Enryu is not a shinning one.
 

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When Aubrion said “immense beings” to Urek he was referring to axes imo. He did not put the shinning ones in that category. So I don’t believe they are axes. However I do believe the shining ones at their peak were Enryu caliber. So entities above the admins.
But problem is "Emperor" that guy has power outside yet no fhs have any power yet emperor was just a human like FHs are just humans , shining ones aren't human they are primordials unlike humans

so how can you explain power of emperor ? while emperor and ppl outside have powers yet only fhs don't have anything at all literally just pure weaklings not even spark ?

plus outside ppl not everyone have power but only chosen , like in the old stories of axisers because only axis users have had powers or only if axisers blessed someone , and the problem is shinies still because they were born with the power unlike anyone else and also penta and also urek but rest ? they gained power after that and when urek had met emperor still that guy was just a mere human not a warrior and he had no power

@Strange Also I saw someone on discord point out that all the shinning ones we’ve seen so far are named after French wines. So this is probably another hint that Enryu is not a shinning one.
Ohh that thing was noticed by koreans also even before DISCORD OR REDDITORS DID

we will see in the end, but i am pretty sure that enryu is slave of pentaminum 100% LOL BECAUSE OF thorn , and we will see thoryn guy surely here in this spin off then we will have definite answer

cant wait to see latours jewel and i will have more proof
 

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I am not sure of why there even is a discussion about enryu being a shining one. The guy has something to do with arlen, the great warriors and maybe kinda the workshop. He came into the tower and his shinsoo control surpassed an admin. Aubryon was surprised at urek being able to imbue his attacks with shinsoo. The great warriors don't seem to have ever heard of the shining ones for some reason. There's no real overlap between shining ones and enryu.
 

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But problem is "Emperor" that guy has power outside yet no fhs have any power yet emperor was just a human like FHs are just humans , shining ones aren't human they are primordials unlike humans

so how can you explain power of emperor ? while emperor and ppl outside have powers yet only fhs don't have anything at all literally just pure weaklings not even spark ?

plus outside ppl not everyone have power but only chosen , like in the old stories of axisers because only axis users have had powers or only if axisers blessed someone , and the problem is shinies still because they were born with the power unlike anyone else and also penta and also urek but rest ? they gained power after that and when urek had met emperor still that guy was just a mere human not a warrior and he had no power



Ohh that thing was noticed by koreans also even before DISCORD OR REDDITORS DID

we will see in the end, but i am pretty sure that enryu is slave of pentaminum 100% LOL BECAUSE OF thorn , and we will see thoryn guy surely here in this spin off then we will have definite answer

cant wait to see latours jewel and i will have more proof
In chapter 1 of this spin-off, it was implied that there were other individuals who could use light outside of the shinning ones. The emperor is probably one of those guys.
 

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Urek most likely lost his power
Hopefully we will know more about this. Like I said before if his light powers are infinite as the meaning implies no matter the amount of light stolen from him it shouldn't have weakened him.
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I am not sure of why there even is a discussion about enryu being a shining one
I think this stems from the TL. They changed the TL from needle to thorn. Which is plant based like vines. There is thorn shaped plant type gem.
 

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Hopefully we will know more about this. Like I said before if his light powers are infinite as the meaning implies no matter the amount of light stolen from him it shouldn't have weakened him.
You realize the contradiction, right? It is a fact that he is weakened. Urek himself that his Light got stolen, that he isn't at full power and that Shinsoo also weakens his PoL. I still don't get why sometimes people prefer to listen to Mago instead of the user himself. Urek's Light being infinite can only mean that he can generate it infinitely by himself like a battery.
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I am not sure of why there even is a discussion about enryu being a shining one. The guy has something to do with arlen, the great warriors and maybe kinda the workshop. He came into the tower and his shinsoo control surpassed an admin. Aubryon was surprised at urek being able to imbue his attacks with shinsoo. The great warriors don't seem to have ever heard of the shining ones for some reason. There's no real overlap between shining ones and enryu.
It started because there is a gem which looks like the Thorn but people love to insert Enryu for all kinds of theories.
 

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It started because there is a gem which looks like the Thorn but people love to insert Enryu for all kinds of theories.
Ah, on my own I never made that... connection if you can call it that. I think it's nonsense tbh. Looking at the image with the gems on phanta's hand I do think it is curious that the central gem seems to be the one that shines the brightest. Maybe SIU is trying to foreshadow something.
 

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I suspect the person the test director was talking to in ch 50 was Ari Han or a HR from the family!!!
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Soo Yuram is real!!! My guess is simp boy killed her but Garam got the credit/blame and that’s why she hates him!
 

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Soo Yuram is real!!! My guess is simp boy killed her but Garam got the credit/blame and that’s why she hates him!
Wait, I could see that happening... Maybe not killed her but weakened her and Garam had to finish her off.
 

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I don't think the shinning ones aka the jewel ones are that much of a big deal. Portrayal wise SIU seem to be setting them on FHs level more or less unless we get new info that they are much weaker as jewels than they were as shinning ones.

Urek is the true god and was placed on same level as phanta. The gap between full power light urek and the jewel ones have to massive.
 

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I wonder why Aurbyon said that Latour can beat Urek after getting atomized himself
 

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You realize the contradiction, right? It is a fact that he is weakened. Urek himself that his Light got stolen, that he isn't at full power and that Shinsoo also weakens his PoL. I still don't get why sometimes people prefer to listen to Mago instead of the user himself. Urek's Light being infinite can only mean that he can generate it infinitely by himself like a battery.
Well it's because Mago is far experienced when it comes to light than UM. I don't remember Mago saying having trouble with using UM's light. Maybe it only affects the pillars. As Obrion and Latur also seems to have regained significant amount of strength inside the tower. If they gain light through counter, it's weird that they aren't restricted in using it.
 

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I wonder why Aurbyon said that Latour can beat Urek after getting atomized himself
I guess the cope would be that Aurbyon simply got caught off guard by Shinsu and in a possible rematch even him would be more prepared + Latour could be a more combat focused shiny.
 

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I guess the cope would be that Aurbyon simply got caught off guard by Shinsu and in a possible rematch even him would be more prepared + Latour could be a more combat focused shiny.
Obrion did say he didn't expect UM to adapt to shinsu so quickly.

I think this clears the long debate we had whether irregulars open the door by themselves or tower choses them. Because tower didn't chose shinies they can't use shinsu. It's weird especially for Obrion who knows about shinsu to never learn about it. Even Mago when she was fighting Edahn didn't say anything about shinsu unlike UM who was fascinated by this new unfound power when he first arrived.
 

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Obrion did say he didn't expect UM to adapt to shinsu so quickly.

I think this clears the long debate we had whether irregulars open the door by themselves or tower choses them. Because tower didn't chose shinies they can't use shinsu. It's weird especially for Obrion who knows about shinsu to never learn about it. Even Mago when she was fighting Edahn didn't say anything about shinsu unlike UM who was fascinated by this new unfound power when he first arrived.

It's been stated a long while ago that the Tower takes in what it needs so the Great warriors were always chosen from the start to be there.

And now with what Aubryon stated too, it's sure that they were chosen to be there as delicious food to nourish the newborn Axis on his path to the top.


But there's been three genuine invader entities alongside the Shinies whom weren't chosen as neither really need or depend on the Tower for anything at all.


First being Enryu, second being Phantaminum and third being Urek.
 

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Well it's because Mago is far experienced when it comes to light than UM. I don't remember Mago saying having trouble with using UM's light. Maybe it only affects the pillars. As Obrion and Latur also seems to have regained significant amount of strength inside the tower. If they gain light through counter, it's weird that they aren't restricted in using it.
They trained him, he is experienced enough and she was fooled thinking that she had all his PoL. It's Urek's own power. He is a veteran fighter in this spin-off already.
 
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