Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 60 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

Enjoy turtles

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

On my end I am hesitant to split things between dark and light. Too many unknowns and context dependent. Certainly in universe stars, sunlight and moonlight are a thing. But to associate them to the light as it pertains to the creation of the universe and stars.. I think it is a step too far. Let alone that if baek has a deeper connection to the plot it's either an unknown irregular or something pertaining to the great warriors/bam. Tying together everything that uses the word light without having the context of what the light in question refers to is probably not productive as far as discussion goes. As far as I can tell light as a starting point in the universe for the story in question may or not have anything to do with celestial bodies.

Regarding Moonlight powers I think the one Baek was waiting for is UM and not night. The connection of Moonlight with Night is just the word play that is bringing tides or waves into the tower with his powers.

But like I said before Moon doesn't have its own light it just reflects the light. It needs light to bring tides. And guess who has light, it's UM. Only with his light can Baek could display the powers of moonlight, I believe.

Ofc this is just speculation in my part but when UM first grabbed Baek, we see the moon. Maybe it's reacting to UM's light. And that's why we see the moon. I doubt it was Baek using his powers. It must have caught him off guard. And that's why he is chasing UM. We see him saying he found someone worth following who was UM.

 

[PPower]

What’s up with this annoying theory that Baek is tied to Baam and V? It’s honestly one of the weakest theories I have ever heard. The story becomes far more interesting when Baek is allowed to exist in his own lane instead of being awkwardly folded into Baam’s narrative again.

Baek was literally waiting for someone from outside the Tower, and the person he met was Urek. That meeting is framed as fate, not coincidence. Urek gives Baek meaning. Narratively, it’s very clear: Baek meets Urek, asks about the outside, learns the moon is real, and finally understands that his inheritance was never a myth. Trying to forcibly drag Baek back into Baam’s storyline ignores what the spin‑off is explicitly telling us.

The story very clearly sets Baek’s path alongside Urek and an unknown legacy, not Baam’s lineage. Otherwise, was Baek just supposed to sit there and wait another 500 years for Baam? That does not line up at all with what the spin‑off is actually showing us.

 

[kkck]

Regarding Moonlight powers I think the one Baek was waiting for is UM and not night. The connection of Moonlight with Night is just the word play that is bringing tides or waves into the tower with his powers.

But like I said before Moon doesn't have its own light it just reflects the light. It needs light to bring tides. And guess who has light, it's UM. Only with his light can Baek could display the powers of moonlight, I believe.

Ofc this is just speculation in my part but when UM first grabbed Baek, we see the moon. Maybe it's reacting to UM's light. And that's why we see the moon. I doubt it was Baek using his powers. It must have caught him off guard. And that's why he is chasing UM. We see him saying he found someone worth following who was UM.

The dialogue of his power along with the moon representations so far IMO are suggestive that baek does not need urek's light to use his abilities. I think it's a stretch that when Urek grabbed Baek what we saw was the moon reacting to urek's light. To me it looked like Baek threatened urek and Urek dismissed it as dusty nonsense.

The vibe I get from Baek following Urek is that Baek had a role/fate he was supposed to wait for but the appearance of urek literally derailed the plot. As in, out there is an axis that went "oi, am I a joke to you?" as urek kidnapped an NPC.

 

[Demonspeed]

It's not all about Light and Darkness people... Neither Urek and Baek are familiar with the other's powers.

What’s up with this annoying theory that Baek is tied to Baam and V? It’s honestly one of the weakest theories I have ever heard. The story becomes far more interesting when Baek is allowed to exist in his own lane instead of being awkwardly folded into Baam’s narrative again.

Baek was literally waiting for someone from outside the Tower, and the person he met was Urek. That meeting is framed as fate, not coincidence. Urek gives Baek meaning. Narratively, it’s very clear: Baek meets Urek, asks about the outside, learns the moon is real, and finally understands that his inheritance was never a myth. Trying to forcibly drag Baek back into Baam’s storyline ignores what the spin‑off is explicitly telling us.

The story very clearly sets Baek’s path alongside Urek and an unknown legacy, not Baam’s lineage. Otherwise, was Baek just supposed to sit there and wait another 500 years for Baam? That does not line up at all with what the spin‑off is actually showing us.

Exactly.

 

[OmegronAlpha]

This may not be important but do the blue hair girl dead.?

 

[Demonspeed]

This may not be important but do the blue hair girl dead.?

Yes, she is dead.

 

[25thBaam_viole]

V likely committed suicide because he knew he couldn't take down Jahad. He needs external power ups

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 21, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 21, 2026 ---

It's just a wordplay from SIU. Moon shines when it's night time.

Read again V commit suicide coz he can't stand Arlene goes insane & committing suicide....but due to admin blessing she can't die.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Read again V commit suicide coz he can't stand Arlene goes insane & committing suicide....but due to admin blessing she can't die.

That's suspicious. Because why would he leave her alone if she is mad? He himself says everything is for Arlene and almost takes down Traumerei who had nothing to do with Arlene going crazy.

 

[25thBaam_viole]

That's suspicious. Because why would he leave her alone if she is mad? He himself says everything is for Arlene and almost takes down Traumerei who had nothing to do with Arlene going crazy.

It seems you still not getting the point you are mixing two timeline. V is alive coz Arlene has do to something with it before she left the tower she took V keepsakes along with Dead body of Baam & offer that body to Outside God I'm sure Outside God put V soul in Baam's Body in slumber state. V right now taking revenge coz Arlene suffered a lot after his death. He thought after he died she will go back to his companion & atleast live peacefully but he was wrong that's the only reason he taking revenge. He said it clearly "Together with this boy we will take Arlene revenge for the wrongs she suffered". So there's nothing suspicious about it. Rachel said it clearly Baam was born to devour the entire tower.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

V right now taking revenge coz Arlene suffered a lot after his death. He thought after he died she will go back to his companion & atleast live peacefully but he was wrong that's the only reason he taking revenge.

I still fail to see what Traumerei did in this. It was Arlene's own decision that she didn't go back to his friends. Jahad killed his son not Traumerei or any other FL. They had nothing to do with that.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 22, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 22, 2026 ---

It's the same for Gussy. Jahad sealed Anne but blames Traumerei and others.

 

[Fortress of Solitude]

V right now taking revenge coz Arlene suffered a lot after his death.

Why did he kill himself? Why not left the Tower with Arlene?

Basicaly he needed to die AND be inside Baam's dead body to left the Tower and wait until Baam entered the Tower du to the promise.
Arlene loosed her mind was perfect to sent her ouside.
The real question is about Arlene: did she know what had append?
It's strange that someone so important, a charismatic leader was manipulated so easily, isn't it?

Rachel said it clearly Baam was born to devour the entire tower.

Rachel! She knows to many things for an expert in laundry...
I think she was manipulated by Arlene to enter the Tower maybe Arlene used the same trick than V and hide inside Rachel...

Yes, she is dead.

Already forgotten, damn this is insane.

The vibe I get from Baek following Urek is that Baek had a role/fate he was supposed to wait for but the appearance of urek literally derailed the plot.

Phantaminum trapped Urek in the Tower, the Shinnings are a good reason that Urek stays for a while and now Baek... I think Phantaminum just hijacked the Tower.

 

[Strange]

That's suspicious. Because why would he leave her alone if she is mad? He himself says everything is for Arlene and almost takes down Traumerei who had nothing to do with Arlene going crazy.

The only explanation is that V is a shit, he is like a guy who will leave the women when she is in a delivery room

so he is look lemme get out here and leave arlene with zahard that's good plan because i know arlene will sacrifice our childs body to some crap shit god that lives outside

only braindead will say V is a good guy

Arlene is a w#ore also who sacrificed her child's body to some unknown guy who can be shitty axis

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 22, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 22, 2026 ---

Why did he kill himself? Why not left the Tower with Arlene?

V is just shit thats the reason .

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 22, 2026 ---

Phantaminum trapped Urek in the Tower

Penta cannot trap urek because he isn't more powerful than urek , plus urek never has said that i cannot leave the tower , if anyone shows me that he cannot levae the tower i'd accept that but urek never had said anything like that , gustangs words is opposite what you have said because he has said "and this guy is trapped here? this must be a joke" .

penta cannot trap urek anywher because he isn't stronger than urek and if penta was stroner urek wouldn't lost his light but his body and all he has but urek is alive and kicking because penta cannot do jack squat against him , hell penta didn't even dare to exchange some punches

urek is there and is waiting for new axis to appear and he is the one who is trying to help that poor thing otherwise penta and shinies will eat that new axis alive , urek is there for one reason to help and clean the mess and rest will be done by baam after urek shits on V and luslec as it is in the game , Luslec and V are going to Loose and then urek will leave baam and he will leave the tower as he shall be unless penta will appear and he will have no other choice to exchange punches and kill pentaminum

 

[kkck]

Phantaminum trapped Urek in the Tower, the Shinnings are a good reason that Urek stays for a while and now Baek... I think Phantaminum just hijacked the Tower.

Hmm, my post was about how Baek was affected by urek rather than the other way around. I don't think baek would be a reason for urek to stay in the tower either. I don't have that strong of an opinion of how much phanta has affected the tower yet. Could he "highjack the tower" and not have achieved his apparent goal of taking everything meant for the axis the tower is meant to produce? My best guess is that axis shenanigans are weird enough that phanta probably could still simply wish away the tower on a whim if he wanted to but taking what is meant for another axis is more complex than that.

 

[Strange]

I think Phantaminum just hijacked the Tower.

For this time there is no axis of the tower so until there is one everyone can try to send their candidate i think , maybe outside axisers gathered together and send their characters to climb the tower and do their thing because it makes perfect sense , why close the door if the test above isn't easy ? then let them go and do tests and die there ... but its opposite there were and are many irregulars but because door is closed they cannot go above or they are getting killed before they reach zahard floor , because irregulars that was sent from the outside they were just weaklings like rachel or baam (he got tons of helpers) so they can climb and hedon is helping rachel also , so those two are exceptions but rest ? who got there they died because ari family controls things and before they reach potential they are getting killed that's the thing i see . as for urek who he doesn't clibm above 134th ? because its useless for him and he cannot become axis twice .

and now in this case i see that axisers cannot die so easily even if you kill them they dont die because they are linked to something or to someone , because urek had lost his powers and died 100% then he got ressurected so there's that ...

 

[undefined]

Penta cannot trap urek because he isn't more powerful than urek , plus urek never has said that i cannot leave the tower , if anyone shows me that he cannot levae the tower i'd accept that but urek never had said anything like that , gustangs words is opposite what you have said because he has said "and this guy is trapped here? this must be a joke" .

Here is a panel from chapter 1 of the spinoff :

It was also said in the blogposts that Urek couldn't leave the tower and that the entire purpose of Wolhaiksong is to leave the tower.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

In ch 647, Gussy says it must be a joke that he is trapped inside the tower confirming he cannot leave the tower as his will.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 22, 2026, Original Post Date: Apr 22, 2026 ---

Btw is anyone looking forward for the workshop battle? Just 25F away

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

Here is a panel from chapter 1 of the spinoff :

It was also said in the blogposts that Urek couldn't leave the tower and that the entire purpose of Wolhaiksong is to leave the tower.

Blog post not canon. Good day sir

 

[undefined]

Blog post not canon. Good day sir

I mean I still included a panel from the story lol

 

[zaul the second]

No chapter yet??

 

[Strange]

It was also said in the blogposts that Urek couldn't leave the tower and that the entire purpose of Wolhaiksong is to leave the tower.

Imagine you are new in a place and its damn big , how can you know ?


plus if tower is built by bricks literally as it is , when tower is summoned it was full of bricks and rocks so which means literally it is just bunch of bricks and cement LOL

so at this time i can accept this because urek never tried to do so he doesn't know it surely , but in future it is literally built by bricks he just needs to go at the corner doesn't matter where it is because it is a mathematical concept it has size width and height surely and the thing he need to do is just to make hole in it and ualiaa that's easy peasy ,

tower isn't a dimension tower is literally a tower like aubrion has said so to get out you need to make a hole and that's surely urek can do easily , we dont need to overcomplicate things becuase gustang also has said about urek "and this guy is stuck here ? this must be a joke right ?" ... we love to harden things yet those things are pretty damn easy , plus urek had in the anime when he met baam about things and he also has said " i will get out of this tower" but he literally never has said word "that i cannot do so" its people are talking about him , for example we have zero clue what enryu wanted but people just assume like enryu did visit it for arlene girl and because zahards followers desecrated place where arlene lived yet enryu he himself destroyed that place and did whole thing and enryu he himself never has said a word that i am doing it for some girl named enryu , it was his boss that asked him to do so and people love to say it was all because of arlene but since when ?

whatver was told to us it doesn't necessarily means that is 100% true but if author he himelf notes , plus urek doesn't want to live for the following reasons: First pentas followers, then penta himself and also he had promised people that he'd take them outside and now we all know that there is much more at the stake, unless urek is sure i dont think urek is going to leave penta and his followers to swallow whole thing , because he knows how evil penta is and his lackeys so i dont think he is just going to leave those people like "yeah those guys i.e shinies are here and lemme go outside while i hate penta and shining ones and want them to die " ... makes no sense if you ask me , urek says one thing and does another makes no sense at all ... in tog almost nothing makes sense first zahard, just look how he went againt baam yet never killed ? why ? when he knows that he is going to grow and kill him ? because its all prophecy right ? yet he wants to rule but ? ... nothing he does ? he doesn't go and kill baam directly ? if he literally wanted to kill baam he could go directly himself and kill him easily but he never did right ? he could mobilize whole thing and star a war but nothing still ? now look at this and say it makes sense ...



Additional to this After aubrions words and after all those things its literally way easy to go outside of the tower if you want that and there is no need to climb to the tower at all and especially for urek, tower has many places its a building after all and you can exit from any floor you want just you need to have enough power , an we haven't even seen the edge of the tower and what is the thing it is made of . but pretty much it is full of bricks and cement LOL like it was in the anime when tower appeared for rachel and for baam it has a door that is built by cement surely and that was entrance door so if the entrance is built by cement then surely entire construct is full of cement so it is just a rock and to get out of that rock you need find edge of that building then make a hole in it and that's all and pretty much there is no magic in TOG universe at all and nothing would stop you from destroying it from the inside especially if you had power of Light that cannot be controlled by the tower ... in tog maybe admins will try to stop destroy the place from the inside and that's the only hindrance and that can be avoided for example easily if you go at FOD and do whatver you want there because shinsoo there is chaotic and also there is no admin which means you can do anything there so for urek to go outside is pretty much easy , but surely urek isn't idiot and will go outside unless he is sure that axis is born and penta and his lackeys won't swallow whole thing and make themsleves more powerful .


There is no magic it's just bunch of axisers are trying to rule the stories and that's all, no magic nothing like that and if there was any magic there is no need to waste your time to seek power like penta does and his lackeys