Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 67 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

Enjoy turtles

 

[Strange]

For that reason, I don't take Baam's statement literally. It makes more sense to view it as Baam being reminded of the irregulars rather than saying Dumas's power is comparable to theirs.

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[undefined]

1) As we know, FHs have their special immortality status, and on top of that, nowhere did I say that Adori could take a FH with ease and risk no serious damage in return. Even Z himself couldn't be sure of that, at least for the stronger FHs.. i'd assume.
2) This follows to the second point, that Adori and Traum have different strategic importance for Z, despite both being (allegedly) loyal to him, and it isnt merely about power, since at this level those are not all uniform pawns.
3) It wasn't Jahad who sent Traumerei "one-sidedly", it was also that Gustang had beef (more than anyone) with Traum. If he really was playing the game as you stated it, he could have sent both Traum and Adori to jump Gustang as the same time, and im pretty sure that Adori would have been of significant help in this scenario. Id say, this is just the warm-up/opening move for whatevers going on long term..
4) Jahad/Zahard can peek into the future so there may be factors we dont yet know.

As I said, we will have to wait for S4, but i highly doubt that Adori (and, especially, Enne/Anne) wont have at least relative relevance, power wise, to a single family head, at this point in the story.This isnt a story that goes on authority alone, i.e. the Zahard army would be irrelevant otherwise, as this isnt some strategy-focused battle comic, but despite all the games and plays and stuff, its about power in the end.

And also i would add that, this spin off, have made the FHs seem less special,with shinsoo being borrowed power, the shinnies and all these new beings (snake etc), which might have some intention behind it, OK.

Long ago SIU himself might have planned to have top Towerborn compete with the Family Heads. In a really old post, SIU said that the Three Lords could reject a Family Head's order (I didn't even know post existed until recently lol). Then you also have that statement saying that Zahard couldn't take Molic lightly in a fight. But once again, these were statements that SIU made over a decade ago.

SIU has probably changed his mind because the actual story contradicts these notions. Adori was only Ranker level as an A Rank Regular while the Family Heads were Ranker-level on Floor 43. Then you have Luslec getting neg diffed by Hon and Traumerei in the flashback (he was much weaker back then, but I don't believe he was able to close that massive gap between himself and the Family Heads).

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Those statements carry more weight than whatever Baam said about Dumas imo. Baam merely wondered whether "Dumas can be compared to the FHs or Zahard's data." It wasn't a confident statement or a definitive assessment on his part.

Also if you take Baam's words literally, then you're also accepting the implication that Zahard's data is comparable to the FHs. That would mean a Family Head is only equivalent to a fraction of the real Zahard's power, which raises some obvious issues with that interpretation.

For that reason, I don't take Baam's statement literally. It makes more sense to view it as Baam being reminded of the irregulars rather than saying Dumas's power is comparable to theirs.

Huh, Opponent talking about someone's power is more of value than the underling. It sounds kind of flattery ngl when underling talkes about their leaders.

It's not about comparing Jahad's data and FLs. It's about Dumas powers with them. Besides they haven't shown all of them. It could be a Dumas FP is 5 percent of FLs. Even then that 5 percent will be far greater.

Just to remind the only reason why Night was able to feel Dumas power is because of the power given to him by leviathan which ultimately belongs to Traumerei. If it weren't for that he wouldn't be able to sense that power. It says a lot about Dumas prowess.

 

[undefined]

Huh, Opponent talking about someone's power is more of value than the underling. It sounds kind of flattery ngl when underling talkes about their leaders.

It's not about comparing Jahad's data and FLs. It's about Dumas powers with them. Besides they haven't shown all of them. It could be a Dumas FP is 5 percent of FLs. Even then that 5 percent will be far greater.

Just to remind the only reason why Night was able to feel Dumas power is because of the power given to him by leviathan which ultimately belongs to Traumerei. If it weren't for that he wouldn't be able to sense that power. It says a lot about Dumas prowess.

What percentage do you think Dumas and Adori are in comparison to an FH? I just want to know where you stand on this?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

What percentage do you think Dumas and Adori are in comparison to an FH? I just want to know where you stand on this?

There's no such thing as percentage for FLs. For instance Traumerei only knows one move. So whether he holds back or not is irrelevant if he fights himself using Rupture.

If he doesn't and just use Sbhs, it's getting no diff like 1 percent because the animals will keep reviving and getting stronger and they will die of exhaustion.

 

[undefined]

At this point in the story the one and ONLY Towerborn you can be giving arguments to possibly actually somehow reaching Family heads tier or even possibly surpassing it is a fully realized Nameless.

She's actually MADE for that, BUILT like that in fact.

Everybody else including Adori is basically never leaving Top Towerborn tier, not ever.

Ngl if Rak gets the ancient giant’s powers then he’ll be FH tier or above imo.

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There's no such thing as percentage for FLs. For instance Traumerei only knows one move. So whether he holds back or not is irrelevant if he fights himself using Rupture.

If he doesn't and just use Sbhs, it's getting no diff like 1 percent because the animals will keep reviving and getting stronger and they will die of exhaustion.

That’s true, but I mainly wanted to know where you think Adori and Dumas stand in comparison to each other. I just don’t see how Dumas is pushing Adori to anything past low diff.

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

Baek unknowning opens a well and the purple thryssa escapes. It just doesn't seem like a being comparable to the other thryssas so far (which is not to say it isn't more powerful currently).

being stronger than the red thryssa is so vague. Red thryssa was fodder to 10% Urek with no shinsoo.

Stronger than the red thryssa could be anywhere from fodder to 20% Urek with no shinsoo, to how many gaps till a family head.

I just think people are SEVERELY underestimating the FH because SIU isn’t showing their strength a Urek centric Spin off

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

That’s true, but I mainly wanted to know where you think Adori and Dumas stand in comparison to each other. I just don’t see how Dumas is pushing Adori to anything past low diff.

Oh, Dumas with Rosario is about 5 percent, while Adori is 10. But when facing a FL, it's nothing. It's like how would u compare Jahad and Traumerei with headon. Like headon, Traumerei will deal with them in same way at same level to both characters. Ofc this is assuming he has the heart to kill.

In case u haven't noticed but FLs at least know name of the regents of other families. This says a lot about their power.

 

[undefined]

Oh, Dumas with Rosario is about 5 percent, while Adori is 10. But when facing a FL, it's nothing. It's like how would u compare Jahad and Traumerei with headon. Like headon, Traumerei will deal with them in same way at same level to both characters. Ofc this is assuming he has the heart to kill.

Even just a 2x difference would still allow Adori to low diff Dumas.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Even just a 2x difference would still allow Adori to low diff Dumas.

It's not that easy imo. Regents are strong. Ur comparing like Regulars and HRs. Regents have made a name for themselves.

For instance, Dumas killed 3 of Traumerei's animals. 2 belonged to his 7 animals or let's just say Fandor harpe. We saw Fandor overwhelm, nenneya while Dumas effortlessly killed them and this is nerfed Dumas.

 

[O_n_Sly]

It's not that easy imo. Regents are strong. Ur comparing like Regulars and HRs. Regents have made a name for themselves.

For instance, Dumas killed 3 of Traumerei's animals. 2 belonged to his 7 animals or let's just say Fandor harpe. We saw Fandor overwhelm, nenneya while Dumas effortlessly killed them and this is nerfed Dumas.

Bro NN wasn’t even a ranker lol

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Dumas lost both of his arms vs the dragon lol

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Ngl if Rak gets the ancient giant’s powers then he’ll be FH tier or above imo.

From the Ancient Giant himself?

Yeah sure, I'm betting on that one for Rak in fact, so long as SIU keeps the disrespect that alligator is gonna soar.

Rak and A.A are the two Towerborns I'm betting on outside of Nameless to breach Irregular tier someway somehow.

 

[undefined]

It's not that easy imo. Regents are strong. Ur comparing like Regulars and HRs. Regents have made a name for themselves.

For instance, Dumas killed 3 of Traumerei's animals. 2 belonged to his 7 animals or let's just say Fandor harpe. We saw Fandor overwhelm, nenneya while Dumas effortlessly killed them and this is nerfed Dumas.

I mean that’s what a 2x difference is tho. I’m assuming you’re putting true body Dumas at 5? Like if it was armor Dumas at 5 it would be different but it’s not.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Bro NN wasn’t even a ranker lol

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Dumas lost both of his arms vs the dragon lol

It's more of Akrinark than NN. After all it was about to low diff BLs, Yas and other Rankers.

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I mean that’s what a 2x difference is tho. I’m assuming you’re putting true body Dumas at 5? Like if it was armor Dumas at 5 it would be different but it’s not.

All I will say is Regents aren't fodders especially the fighting ones like Dumas and Robadon.

 

[undefined]

All I will say is Regents aren't fodders especially the fighting ones like Dumas and Robadon.

We just have to wait and see then

 

[illThinkANameLater]

Long ago SIU himself might have planned to have top Towerborn compete with the Family Heads. In a really old post, SIU said that the Three Lords could reject a Family Head's order (I didn't even know post existed until recently lol). Then you also have that statement saying that Zahard couldn't take Molic lightly in a fight. But once again, these were statements that SIU made over a decade ago.

SIU has probably changed his mind because the actual story contradicts these notions. Adori was only Ranker level as an A Rank Regular while the Family Heads were Ranker-level on Floor 43. Then you have Luslec getting neg diffed by Hon and Traumerei in the flashback (he was much weaker back then, but I don't believe he was able to close that massive gap between himself and the Family Heads).

well luslec seemd a bit of a bum in the flashback, but i guess he took the L to heart and locked in.. perhaps, lol.
but in the end, it depends on what SIU decides. no guarantee growth is linear or anything like that. for one, FHs have been slacking around a lot "lately". but yeah,lets see, it will be interesting what SIU goes with.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

All I will say is Regents aren't fodders especially the fighting ones like Dumas and Robadon.

How many Dumas lvl Regents do you think it takes to kill Adori or Luslec ? 3 ?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

How many Dumas lvl Regents do you think it takes to kill Adori or Luslec ? 3 ?

I would like to say 2 but I will give TTs a slight edge and say 3

 

[Vali x lucifer]

I would like to say 2 but I will give TTs a slight edge and say 3

I think we will discover another tier mostly made up of Top Regents or High Tier Princesses that surpasses the likes of Dumas/Robadon without reaching TT lvl and i believe it will take like 2/3 of those guys to beat a TT

For Dumas lvl fighters i say 6+ to beat a TT

I believe we could meet one of those guys among the troops that intercepted the Revos/Kirin at the end of S3, and among the characters we already know Ratna Gra for example may be at that lvl imo

 

[O_n_Sly]

It's more of Akrinark than NN. After all it was about to low diff BLs, Yas and other Rankers.

Akrinak was limited b/c NN was soo weak. It said so itself LOL!