Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

If the shining ones master shinsu they should be much stronger than FHs and zahard.

 

[Demonspeed]

Interesting fact ,Maybe Guardians dont like when fhs are going from one floor to another and are doing all kinds of things it seems ... just maybe its written in their contract that they aren't allowed to do things as they wish and want always , maybe once guardian close his eye but not always ... cuz eduan surely tasted managers power as he was afraid of manager appearing there LOL

Yes but so far no FH has been inconvenienced. That's the problem with these excuses. Traumerei was teleporting without issues and was crushing the Po Bidau. Same for Gustang, who has been very active since S2. When Eduan said he was fearing an Admin intervention I thought that maybe we would see one doing it but nothing happened.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Interesting that Gussy never mentioned shinies in FOD. He only mentioned UM and GWs. Ig even an aizen wannabe doesn't know. How will SIU justify this, especially since he is in cahoots with headon or master? He needs to consider every variable

 

[zaul the second]

The spinoff can't end here. There are way too many cliffhangers

• What is the nameless princess name?
• What of the remaining three shining ones?
• What about Phantaminum? How does he fit into the TOG main story?

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

The spinoff can't end here. There are way too many cliffhangers

• What is the nameless princess name?
• What of the remaining three shining ones?
• What about Phantaminum? How does he fit into the TOG main story?

Nameless name is Dorothy. Remaining one will show up in main story. He will likely come back when Jahad is defeated.

 

[PlotArmouredTitan]

Considering all this, it only makes sense that Zahard is an Axis. How else is he supposed to be handle all of these forces.

All of these forces simply don't measure up to an axis. To become the axis of the tower, one would need to consume all that the tower has to offer. Even Zahard being admin level is already questionable enough

 

[Epic_Rider]

Eduan being very docile, too docile. I am sorry but how can't you move freely because you are a FH? Shouldn't it be the opposite? Worshiped like a god, can teleport, etc. You are spending your time chatting with Urek there because he summoned you twice.

It's exactly because they are worshipped like gods that they try to avoid getting involved in Tower matters too much. Gustang even says as much.

But Rachel met her, she tried to kill herself before and she left the Tower.

Rachel spoke of Arlene, that doesn't exactly mean they met. Rachel could simply have read something she wrote at some point.

Even assuming she died outside, Zahard wouldn't know and doesn't have the power to get her.

You're making a lot of assumptions about what Jahad can and cannot do based on not much at all.

 

[Demonspeed]

The spinoff can't end here. There are way too many cliffhangers

• What is the nameless princess name?
• What of the remaining three shining ones?
• What about Phantaminum? How does he fit into the TOG main story?

She has no name...

 

[kkck]

Ok... read the summary.

A bit of speculation on my part but I think the side story evidences the main reason SIU discarded the blog posts. The side story has done both, confirmed and rule out elements of old blog posts. But I think a big change that siu decided on is on whether the shining ones would have a big role in the story. Before the blog post were scrapped it seemed like the tog story and the phanta/axis stuff were basically different stories with relatively little overlap. Bam's story was concerned with the tower and it's politics and urek's was concerned with the multiversal metaplot. I don't think these are entirely conjoined even now but odds are there will be much more overlap.

A curious bit of information from urek here is that he doesn't believe in fate. And that he is greater than any fate. While the second part is probably true it's weird that someone who is or at least might be an axis does not believe in fate. Since axis are the ones who set fate in stone. I get the sense that if urek is an axis then he is someone that uses his power to grant freedom to those around him. Which probably plays into his relationship with baek. When baek was introduced and his fate was explained I made the point that this whole thing kinda looked like urek went into someone's story and he stole an NPC.

So nameless princess is meant to be a vessel for arlen...This makes V's plan even more convoluted than before. I get the sense that some nonsense which even V is not familiar with is going on. V wants to avenge arlen but why would there be a need for this if arlen was also returning? Why doesn't V want to avenge his child? Why did arlen's vessel arrived so much earlier than V's? It looks like following V's death arlen made some moves independently. I wonder if she learned someone about her dead child which made her take drastic actions. Something that would make her regret the choice to use their dead baby's corpse for revenge. It also seems like the princess is starting her own faction within the story. Though the most natural place for her to go to is fug. I suppose with shining ones supporting her she doesn't need fug at all though this may be another way in which the plot got derailed by urek.

Now... assuming urek basically deranged the plot by stealing NPCs... what does the plot look like here without him? Nameless princess takes the second floor test, passes, goes to the third floor and meets baek... baek turns out to be the key to the well where the snake is so the two at least up to that point have a connection. Baek seems immensely important to the metaplot now specially if there are more wells in the tower.

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The spinoff can't end here. There are way too many cliffhangers

• What is the nameless princess name?
• What of the remaining three shining ones?
• What about Phantaminum? How does he fit into the TOG main story?

She doesn't have a name. Nameless princess is an empty soul-less vessel meant for arlen.

Probably will show up later. Either in another urek spinoff or in the main story as enemies to bam.

phanta probably does not fit into the tog main story. He is urek's plot point.

 

[Strange]

Yes but so far no FH has been inconvenienced. That's the problem with these excuses. Traumerei was teleporting without issues and was crushing the Po Bidau. Same for Gustang, who has been very active since S2. When Eduan said he was fearing an Admin intervention I thought that maybe we would see one doing it but nothing happened.

Nothing we will get from siu ... now he will go on a hiatus and he will come with another spin off in 2028

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Nameless name is Dorothy. Remaining one will show up in main story. He will likely come back when Jahad is defeated.

Pentaminum is indeed the final boss like kaguya was for naruto and sasuke LOL after madara got defeated

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Mmmm, I am quite conflicted, on one hand i understand that a lot of plot points here are probably better suited to be completely resolved in S4/main ToG rather than in a spinoff, on the other hand closing the spinoff here leaves way too many unresolved plot points imo. Everything past the 2nd floor was meant to basically bridge the story to S4 but as a standalone story, it would probably have been better to just close things out in the 2nd floor with possibly just a Baek teaser.
I would say both Latour and Shin got particularly shafted with this half baked reveal/arc.

 

[kkck]

Is it me or does eduan got more.... reasonable as the plot advanced? When he confronted mago he seemed unhinged. But by the fourth floor he seemed a bit cooler, slightly closer to how he was at the hidden floor. Not quite there of course. I get the sense that a good fight and talking with urek made him less unhinged. Makes me think that it's not only accumulated trauma from battles and nonsense that made the family heads mentally unwell but also isolation. Their social circle is basically the great warriors and all tower residents are bugs.

 

[Demonspeed]

Is it me or does eduan got more.... reasonable as the plot advanced? When he confronted mago he seemed unhinged. But by the fourth floor he seemed a bit cooler, slightly closer to how he was at the hidden floor. Not quite there of course. I get the sense that a good fight and talking with urek made him less unhinged. Makes me think that it's not only accumulated trauma from battles and nonsense that made the family heads mentally unwell but also isolation. Their social circle is basically the great warriors and all tower residents are bugs.

I think he looks too reasonable, it's a bit annoying. But it kinda fits with how Enkidu described him.

 

[undecimber]

So Baam is V's vessel and Nameless is Arlen's?

Baek Ryun wingtree forrest is now retconned. Interesting to know that amongst the FH factions, Koon and Ari are aligned with Urek.

The gems plot wasn't resolved so I guess they'll show up later. I wonder if they've joined FUG / Revolution or are a separate faction all together now while Phantaminum is hibernating. Maybe they're aligned with Enryu if they're tied to Arlen's vessel.

Overall, this was a fun prequel series. Lots of lore. Good setup for the next TOG arc. Some misses but SIU stuck the landing!

Can't wait to see my best boy soon! ALL HAIL RAK!!!!

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Is it me or does eduan got more.... reasonable as the plot advanced? When he confronted mago he seemed unhinged. But by the fourth floor he seemed a bit cooler, slightly closer to how he was at the hidden floor. Not quite there of course. I get the sense that a good fight and talking with urek made him less unhinged. Makes me think that it's not only accumulated trauma from battles and nonsense that made the family heads mentally unwell but also isolation. Their social circle is basically the great warriors and all tower residents are bugs.

Maybe Agnes is the only child that actually takes after the real him lolol

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Remember guys, the chances of a V/Baam - Dorothy/Mago/Arlene love pentagram in S4 are low but never zero.

 

[Primordial]

I think he looks too reasonable, it's a bit annoying. But it kinda fits with how Enkidu described him.

I think it's about finding equals. I get that V and Arlene probably wanted to be close to their tower-born companions and climb further (which was their original goal instead of becoming what they are now), but ever since they underwent a revolution in the Rice Pot, they have already been different from the others, and that probably became even more apparent as they climbed the Tower and became much stronger. Not to mention, after they got the immortality contract, they completely suppressed their emotions (in some cases, erased their memories). So, for them, unless it's an existence that is on their level, they probably don't even see them as humans.

However, it was fun to see Eduan being the mediator between Ari Shin and Urek. Shin Ari called Urek a bug lol. Seriously, these Family Heads really make me laugh.

Jahad being an Axis doesn't make sense given the current information, as they would have to complete the climb to evolve into that kind of existence. Instead, right now, the "Great Warriors" (what a joke) are complacent, sitting on their asses in their well, ruling over the other frogs.

 

[SOOKIE!]

I believe this is moreso the author way to telling us Zahard is still more special than the shinies. A hint for a future setup when it does happen so the groundwork is laid.

I'm starting to think the big twist is that Zahard is actually strong enough to reach the top but he refuses to open the last floor because completing the tower means wiping everything living inside it out of existence.

we know the FH believe that early on they had too much care for towerborns. Perhaps in Zahard this manifested as an intense empathy that made him abort his climb? The hole in this idea is that after he cast off all his unwanted parts into the red dump, what prevented him from climbing then? Did he make some kind of admin contract that prevents it despite his memories being gone?

dunno this is a half baked thought but if Zahard really is that special and locked away all these ancient tower creatures it feels like he's actively working against the tower. All those guys in the well wouldn't exist unless they served some purpose for the tower and what the tower wants is to be completed.

 

[Demonspeed]

I think it's about finding equals. I get that V and Arlene probably wanted to be close to their tower-born companions and climb further (which was their original goal instead of becoming what they are now), but ever since they underwent a revolution in the Rice Pot, they have already been different from the others, and that probably became even more apparent as they climbed the Tower and became much stronger. Not to mention, after they got the immortality contract, they completely suppressed their emotions (in some cases, erased their memories). So, for them, unless it's an existence that is on their level, they probably don't even see them as humans.

However, it was fun to see Eduan being the mediator between Ari Shin and Urek. Shin Ari called Urek a bug lol. Seriously, these Family Heads really make me laugh.

Jahad being an Axis doesn't make sense given the current information, as they would have to complete the climb to evolve into that kind of existence. Instead, right now, the "Great Warriors" (what a joke) are complacent, sitting on their asses in their well, ruling over the other frogs.

I understand the GWs and their attitude and I am not surprised to see that Eduan can be reasonable. He is the Khun FH after all but I still find him too docile with Urek.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Is nameless the heroine? Has the heroine finally appeared.

 

[Primordial]

If anything, this side story just made it clear that Urek Mazino is a special existence beyond the rules of the Tower. If anything, the current Regulars or Rankers are just part of the system that is built to make the true chosen ones, those who entered the Tower to evolve. If anything, that kind of existence, the 13 Great Warriors + Baam, are the "TRUE REGULARS" in the Tower, as they haven't finished climbing the Tower. The term "IRREGULAR" should only apply to external existences that are out of the norm, like the Shining Ones (including Urek), Enryu, and Phantaminum. After all, the 13 Great Warriors are ordinary kids on the outside (probably with potential) who are groomed by shinsu to become special and evolve (they clearly haven't completed that evolution yet).