Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[Demonspeed]

Give V more props since he is very, very important to the tower and is the direct cause of all of those well beings coming into existence. V should be like Zahard level.

As I said earlier, V is only one person. There is no reason to believe that he is strong enough to defeat all the FHs by himself as of now and Zahard's strength is a mystery. It is also a fact that Baam's body would allow to go beyond his prime.

V gets the opportunity to surpass his prime thanks to Baam.

 

[VON]

As I said earlier, V is only one person. There is no reason to believe that he is strong enough to defeat all the FHs by himself as of now and Zahard's strength is a mystery. It is also a fact that Baam's body would allow to go beyond his prime.

V gets the opportunity to surpass his prime thanks to Baam.

He is only one person but special enough to kickstart everyone else growth. He is the original “player”. There’s more to him than to just write him off like that.

 

[Demonspeed]

He is only one person but special enough to kickstart everyone else growth. He is the original “player”. There’s more to him than to just write him off like that.

I am not writing him off. I am saying that he can’t be that strong. What do you mean by special enough to kickstart people's growth? He found the place before everyone and their development doesn't depend on him.

Even if you claim that he is Zahard's equal that means he is still not enough because being equal to Zahard isn't enough to defeat them all.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Give V more props since he is very, very important to the tower and is the direct cause of all of those well beings coming into existence. V should be like Zahard level.

I will never give props to the same guy who can't even gauge Shinsoo Urek alone properly even if he's Zahard level or not at current.

I'm actually fucking pissed because I was hoping and giving him the benefit of the doubt as MC Father status buff that Shinsoo Urek could have a rival but the fucker called V was disappointing as heck.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

V alone definitely has little chances of ever beating Zahard now that he is King i would say, in fact he gave up during the war, with Baam's body he has the chance to win but that's far easier said than done since I am sure Baam will have a say in it regardless of what V thinks or wants.

 

[maverickframe_19]

That's impossible.

You're in disbelief. But it likely is possible with Vaam.

 

[Demonspeed]

Right, V's peak was also used to hype Urek and he saw very little of him. No matter how strong you think he was, there is no way he was much stronger than Zahard and since he is in a superior body he can’t be hyped that much. Revolution has three Shinies and even the weakest heavy hitters we have seen were strong enough to fight Yama for a bit.

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You're in disbelief. But it likely is possible with Vaam.

That's my point. V can transcend his own potential thanks to Baam.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

V alone definitely has little chances of ever beating Zahard now that he is King i would say, in fact he gave up during the war, with Baam's body he has the chance to win but that's far easier said than done since I am sure Baam will have a say in it regardless of what V thinks or wants.

To be honest here, as much as I find V disappointing, I can't deny the fact that without him Zahard would be flipping burgers and he's still being built as the most special of the Great warriors so that's something going for him.

 

[maverickframe_19]

Author should rename himself NUI

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LOL, this is genius

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Siu gave himself a massive opportunity to tie up loose ends with the well and didn't use it. He showed revolutions ship but he also could of showed Rak or Rak like creatures, firefish, Akryung coming from the well and that would of tied up several lose ends. And made things make more sense about Rak and Khun potential and power.

Btw, who the fuck is Ghost, and why can he use Shinwonryu? That's also a big mystery. Maybe someone from Nameless gang who defaulted to FUG (Perhaps Latour)

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Man I can't wait to see fully grown Nameless, she's boutta be so fucking busted.

 

[maverickframe_19]

Zahard/FHs are fucked if shinning ones learn to use shinsu on FH level.

Each shining one will be 2x FHs in power then.

You really think if they were that fucked, wouldn't shiny ones have learned shin-shoo by now and already defeated Zahard? Why are they waiting for Baam? The math is not mathing for someone you think really is that strong in the tower. My thinking is still the same. Only UM is the outlier, and that is because of his status and lineage/destiny.

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Give V more props since he is very, very important to the tower and is the direct cause of all of those well beings coming into existence. V should be like Zahard level.

Demon is a V hater. We already know this lol.

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V alone definitely has little chances of ever beating Zahard now that he is King i would say, in fact he gave up during the war, with Baam's body he has the chance to win but that's far easier said than done since I am sure Baam will have a say in it regardless of what V thinks or wants.

They will join hands. To this day I still don't believe we know the full story. So far I give V props for the whole do-over plan. Even the thryssas are waiting for him. He's special. But with Baam, it's like a gasoline-to-fire combo.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

@gmike159

"Oh idk maybe the ones like when the shining ones and urek fight, formation of wolhaiksong, fighting arie hon and winning his test, maybe Phantaminiums slaughter fest at Zahads palace, any lore dumps, the FoD?"

I am crying, just remembered that bro last week was picking a fight and went 0/5 in predicting which major plot points the spinoff was building towards

P.s. i don't mean to offend man, just a really funny coincidence

 

[Demonspeed]

Demon is a V hater. We already know this lol.

I am not a V hater and it is a fact that he is reliant on Baam's body and died before. Which means that V is inherently inferior to Baam.

 

[X_Ikadragneel]

But it ended up working...

FUG's behavior has always been odd and their Slayers can't do anything to a FH. At least now we know Luslec was waiting for V but he is only one man.

As I said earlier, V is only one person. There is no reason to believe that he is strong enough to defeat all the FHs by himself as of now and Zahard's strength is a mystery. It is also a fact that Baam's body would allow to go beyond his prime.

V gets the opportunity to surpass his prime thanks to Baam.

10 FH (- Gustang, traumerei) = 8
V only one person, but if the other Shiny joined (3) = 5

You really think if they were that fucked, wouldn't shiny ones have learned shin-shoo by now and already defeated Zahard? Why are they waiting for Baam? The math is not mathing for someone you think really is that strong in the tower. My thinking is still the same. Only UM is the outlier, and that is because of his status and lineage/destiny.

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Demon is a V hater. We already know this lol.

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They will join hands. To this day I still don't believe we know the full story. So far I give V props for the whole do-over plan. Even the thryssas are waiting for him. He's special. But with Baam, it's like a gasoline-to-fire combo.

and can someone drop the chapter page already hehe

 

[Demonspeed]

10 FH (- Gustang, traumerei) = 8
V only one person, but if the other Shiny joined (3) = 5


and can someone drop the chapter page already hehe

V is from FUG. The Shinies are from Revolution. They aren't on the same side.

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Aubryon, Latour, Nameless(with Mago). All are strong enough to defeat FHs.

FUG only has V.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

Kind of poetic how the Revs who don't believe in Gods and reject the inherent superiority of the FHs/Zahard will likely end up being manipulated by a bunch of God like entities (Shinies) that simply enact the will of an actual God (Phantaminum).

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Kind of poetic how the Revs who don't believe in Gods and reject the inherent superiority of the FHs/Zahard will likely end up being manipulated by a bunch of God like entities (Shinies) that simply enact the will of an actual God (Phantaminum).

What's a god to a non-believer forever ends up the funniest idiom in fiction as an example.


So yeah, definitely poetic as hell.

 

[kkck]

Hmm, the ending was really rushed. I guess the spinoff must have been quite unpopular. We didn't even get a resolution regarding whichever place latour used his reversion of love on to replenish his power.

 

[maverickframe_19]

I am not a V hater and it is a fact that he is reliant on Baam's body and died before. Which means that V is inherently inferior to Baam.

This is exactly what I call confirmation bias. It's okay; we will see because little by little the story of V's climb will also reveal itself, and we will actually know how inferior he was compared to his peers. Because this is what you believe, isn't it!

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Aubryon, Latour, Nameless(with Mago). All are strong enough to defeat FHs.

I won't believe it until SIU explicitly shows this. He has left everything ambiguous and open to interpretation.

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Hmm, the ending was really rushed. I guess the spinoff must have been quite unpopular. We didn't even get a resolution regarding whichever place latour used his reversion of love on to replenish his power.

Let's be honest: only Urek fans liked this side story. If the story were doing well, the engagement on this forum would have been comparable to S03 or even earlier, but it wasn't. That simply demonstrates that many fans disagreed on the direction SIU was taking this spin-off on. Even if as a neutral and TOG enthusiast you liked the spin-off, that's good, to each their own but to me personally this spin-off was lower to mid tier. Honestly.

 

[Demonspeed]

This is exactly what I call confirmation bias. It's okay; we will see because little by little the story of V's climb will also reveal itself, and we will actually know how inferior he was compared to his peers. Because this is what you believe, isn't it!

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I won't believe it until SIU explicitly shows this. He has left everything ambiguous and open to interpretation.

V is superior to all the GWs but Zahard and I am 100% he wasn't stronger than Zahard back then.

The thing is that I don't get why some of you hype him up so much when his plan involves using his superior son. His feats during the last arc count because Baam is currently much weaker than him but if he keeps staying in Baam's body we'll never see his true strength because he can now surpass his peak.

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I want to see V's power of course but I want to see it with him using his own body, not Baam(the upgrade).